"...let me explain to you my logic. God existed before us... He cannot be proved, because he operates on a level that isn't compatible with ours" -srijc

"He cannot be proved... He cant be disproved... I want people to challenge me and prove me wrong" -srijc



You have set yourself on a wild goose chase which is clearly evident in your wording. At some point in your life you became infected with a mental virus which you are now trying to spread to others, a virus which prevents you from using reason. Drop the mythology, take ownership of your ability to reason, and you won't have to attepmt in vain to seek impossible (by definition) conclusions. You are attempting to use reason to support faith-based conclusions. These are not and will never be compatible, which you even stated yourself. Stop trying, save your time, life is much too short. Your life will end when you die, there is no reward after death so stop being a slave and make the most of your life now and do the right thing for yourself and others. Doing the right thing is not the same as "feeling good", the distinction of which has become lost to many people trying to find answers that can never be found (by definition). I hope you come to terms with this and seek help here. Good luck.

RITUAL
It’s not the behavior that’s wrong; it’s the Moral Code! Its part of the never ending series of elaborately contrived black magic rituals which keep us all under control.
What if you were to go down the rabbit hole and discover the two greatest frauds ever perpetrated upon mankind are the LAW and RELIGION!
You can spot black magic. It’s when something is presented one way but in reality is exactly the opposite.
They gave away the formula for world mind-control when the two-halved coin of Zen was introduced. Half the coin’s face is white, the other half, black; with an uneven line between, analogous to the concept of “both sides of the same coin.”
The black is perceived as the opposite of the white, but they both are faces of the same coin!!!!
Practical application: They give you the right and they give you the left, so that no matter which side you choose, they still gotcha’! Republicans and Democrats! Good and Evil!
They use the trap of belief! Belief locks in the mind for its controller! Jesus Christ!
And there is nothing you can do to pick the lock of belief! This evil mental manipulation in the name of ‘god’ has controlled mankind for millennia. Wars pruning millions are successfully staged because of it.
We are so f***ing stupid!
What if you were real clever during our early civilization? You took a look at all the things people really liked to do and were shrewd enough to convince them such behavior was “sin”, probably from a pulpit, lol, and when they committed one, they had to pay you money spawned from their guilt.
Well, this is the racket they pulled off and they have been pulling it off for as long as the “sheep” have been going to church!
What if, as you continue to traverse the rabbit hole, you figure out just how they managed to control virtually all of the global population?
Imagine you’re ‘da man’. You really do OWN this entire planet and all the people in it! Well, that’s nice; but how are you going to control all of them? Seven billion of them? You know you can’t control any of them on an individual basis! But we know now from watching how they did it!!!!
Pens, moaf! They put us in pens called organizations! Political parties, religions, ideologies. The ‘Bovinity’. And they kept us in them with RITUAL!!!!!! Sit, stand, kneel, bow, pledge allegiance! Pray! Repetitions. Uniforms, badges, authority, patriotism, holidays, flags, recognitions (“good little puppy”), ascendency up their hierarchy. You get recognition when WE approve of you. And you just keep working for more. Shame, blame and consequences. Cub Scouts, Boy Scouts, teams, leagues, rivalries. Judges, juries, railroads! Subliminal advertising, predictive programming, fake terror! The artificiality of nationality.
Marriage!!!!!
Bride, groom, bride’s maid, maid of honor, best man, the gown, “Here comes the cash…”, something white, something borrowed; Christ no wonder they’re all f***ing loony!
If you were born, you will someday die. If you get married, you will someday get divorced. Marriage – the odds are not in your favor. 57% of all marriages end in divorce and the other 43% end in stroke and heart attack! In either event, she gets it all!
Interwoven here is the religious mandate; god says you have to do it before you can ‘do it’. God works for the lawyers! God and Law! Hmmmmm???

There is no right and wrong. Those are just false ideas of the troubled human mind.
Stop arguing, and go find the people you love the most, and hug them, kiss them, keep loving them. Go out and do what makes you happy.
God or no God,it doesnt matter when you're body is being eaten by worms.

This is easy. Humans created the idea of god. God doesn't exist in the world of dogs or snakes. It only exists in the eyes of man.

Now if you are talking about god as in the creator of all? Well, the creator of all, is simply the force that causes molecules to organize and assemble into matter.

What is that force? I'm not sure. Electrons, protons, or something even more minute? Or something outside of matter entirely? Gravitational force? You need a physicist or someone with more knowledge than I to answer that. Perhaps it hasn't been discovered yet.

But there are two main forces in the universe. That which causes organization and assemblage (creation) and that which causes erosion/degradation (destruction). Where these forces do not exist you have the concept of stasis.

But stasis doesn't really exist. It is a concept created by man to help us understand the state of creation and erosion being in relative balance and things seeming not to change.

God is the same. It is concept created by man to help man understand things beyond their comprehension. It is sort of a fill in the blank concept. It fills all the empty holes of your knowledge. I suppose god was created by man's fear of the unknown.