Heavy metal chelator challenge - mea... 
misscallie
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Hi all,
I did a challenge many years ago which showed low levels of all metals. I am very sick, much sicker even than those who do show heavy metal toxicity. I have never understood how someone less sick than me could accumulate metals while I, much sicker, did not. It hever made sense.
During some random googling today I found this website in which the author presents the concept that DMSA and DMPS can be oxidized if you do not have enough antioxidants in your system. I have had very low glutathione throughout my illness until recently.
I am currently working on relieiving the oxidative stress and when I have proven it with testing I will do another challenge test.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:PNZhsjl9o08J:www.healthy...
Read Pollys section starting iwth "if your body's"
This makes perfect sense to me and may explain the women "Karen" that sadpanda or powertool (I forget which, I am sorry) discussed who did not show metals until much later in chelation. Maybe in the earlier chelations the DMPS was acting as an antioxidant until her antioxidant reserves improved enough so that the DMPS could actually chelate metals.
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- Re: Heavy metal chelator challenge -... sadpanda
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This is a reply to # 1,798,397I think that was me that posted that, I believe it was Dr. Buttar's info.
He said that the people who show low or no metals at first are often the sickest. Sometimes it takes multiple provocations before metals are seen.
There is also the issue of which chelator is used. DMPS definitely has a higher preference for inorganic mercury while DMSA tends to pull lead first.
I have read a study showing that higher levels of glutathione will result in more metal excreted. It makes sense considering there are genetic markers that affect detox.
- Re: Heavy metal chelator challenge -... powertool4
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This is a reply to # 1,798,638What did you use for chelation? And how much?
Yeah I also wrote about nonexcretors and there are few people including autistic children which have genetic predispositions for the inability to detoxify. It takes much longer for metals to show and though it's not a guarantee, if you are toxic you may see the numbers going up higher even months or a year after you start.
Dr. Buttar states DMPS is more effective than DMSA. The method and dose however should be taken into consideration.- Re: Heavy metal chelator challenge -... EDS
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This is a reply to # 1,798,674I got the same thing. I think it's because the metals get buried in the tissue and it takes a while to pull them out. You also need to make sure you improve your methylation and glutathione status.
- Re: Heavy metal chelator challenge -... misscallie
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Does anyone have any ideas as to how I can get my doctor to consider I may have metals even though my challenge shows nromal metals ?
Every time we discuss this, he refers back to my normal report. I really need to bring in something convincing next time I see him.- Re: Heavy metal chelator challenge -... sadpanda
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This is a reply to # 1,798,811You could show him Dr. Buttar's presentation.
Alternatively, you could take a ton of antioxidants and try another challenge test. I honestly don't know how well that would work though.
What was your original challenge test done with? EDTA? DMPS?- Re: Heavy metal chelator challenge -... misscallie
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,798,837Ok, I'll take Buttars information to him.
I am trying to get my oxidative stress reduced to normal levels. I was actually able to get my glutathione raised to normal levels. I have just recently had a test for isoprostane done (checks fatty acid peroxidation) and am eagerly awaiting the results. It seems like the slow boat to china but hoepfully I won't need as much chelation.
- Re: Heavy metal chelator challenge -... misscallie
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- Re: Heavy metal chelator challenge -... EDS
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- Re: Heavy metal chelator challenge -... powertool4
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