Day 4 
ALB
13 y
1,342
Energy seems bit better this morning. Yesterday felt pretty draggy but still did weights on bowflex with bit lower than normal poundages and did recumbent bike not treadmill and took it easy on that seemed bit harder to complete my usual 30 minutes.No weights today. Do them 3x week only .Treadmill or bike 5x week.But if gets too hard on the Water Fast will maybe just do the treadmill/bike /walking or yoga drop the weights for now.
Do treadmill this morning since feel pretty good but do keep waking up at like 5am but went back to sleep till 6:30 today.
No hunger at all gone for last couple of days.Drinking only when thirsty and not really drinking much at all.
Weight starting 222.6
Weight today 214.2
So far so good.
- Re: Day 4 Blaise
13 y
1,213
This is a reply to # 1,791,246Wow, ALB you lost a lot of weight in a few days.
I know you are older an all but you and I are probably the same height if we met, but what is your physique like, if you don't mind me asking? Sounds like you're built like a tank lol. I wish I could gain weight and go up 150-160lbs or at least 145 of lean muscle and low body fat again (albeit it was on a crappy diet). Did you experience hard to gain weight/muscle on your last refeeding? I think I am still in some state of ketosis according to Chiron.
Keep up the good work. I know you could do this to true hunger. If you didn't feel a lot great benefits from last time, I have faith you're going to see them this time since you are a lot more experienced at fasting.
Good luck and best wishes mate,
Blaise
- Re: Day 4 ALB
13 y
1,201
This is a reply to # 1,791,282I have heavy frame and pretty good muscle and you don't lose much muscle on fast if you have fat to burn. I lost maybe pound in month in last fast. Proven by my poundages being same or going up few weeks after the fast as pre fast poundages.
I have read you lose lb of so first month then not near as much after that. Now if you are not fat you could lose a lot more.
I have done weights thruout my life on and off so have accumulated some good muscle mass under my fat.
I don't do pictures.might when hit maybe 180 or less. I would like to be for sure under 20% soon and eventually under 15% Heck would like to see my abs haven't seen them since was like 18. I did get down to 160 when was 33 and was looking pretty good. Unfortunately thru the years put on more and more weight.
I am hoping to maybe get to 190 this fast maybe 20 days water? and then on refeed maybe get 10 back? And then nibble it down to mid 190s hold that for month or so and then likely another 20 or so fast. And repeat again until eventually get to maybe 150/160. I think at 150 would be 5% and look pretty ripped.
I am not sure if can fast to true hunger. Went 40 month or so ago ,31 water, 3juice, 2 water ,4 juice then refeed and no true hunger. Quit because got bored.Its boring not to eat and antisocial as well! LOL
Maybe if was down like to 160 and then fasted and hit 130 or something then could maybe see true hunger. I still think fasting when you have no fat left is really starvation not fasting and short fasts of week or so if you have no bodyfat is about max I would do. That is likely why thin people on fast have zero energy can't even get out of bed. You can't live on air unless you are breatharian! LOL
As for gaining back strength and muscle ,easy for me. I am not vegan and so I eat quite a bit of lean meat, chicken, beef, pork, shrimp, not much into fish though. So lots of protein to be had there. I also like almonds and other nuts too. Not sure how to gain on vegan lifestyle but there are vegan bodybuilders that seem to do fine.I believe we are naturally omnivores and while might do raw or vegetarianism for month or so don't think would do it longer term. It can work good though for losing weight.
Or so I hear. I may have some food allergies my main health issue is chronic fatigue. Course weighing so much over what I should don't help in that department either.
Actually now on day 4 feel pretty good. Did treadmill this morning and felt had not bad energy and my mind feels nice a clear ,find get that on the water fasts. Emotionally also feel very mellow on the water fasts.
Got to run now things to do ,places to go ,people to see. Can't stay at home on the fast and lay in bed!
- Re: Day 4 Blaise
13 y
1,256
This is a reply to # 1,791,394Haha. You and I are very different. I could afford to lay in bed 2 weeks ago. Lived like a hermit because of BDD. But now I'm off to the Philippines to study abroad, live on my own, and become independent. Things are happening really fast since my fast.
I guess for me, having a low body fat, gave a me a different experience during the fast. I was lucid dreaming, days seemed like months, super extra sensory, first time I read so much and absorbed the material. Usually, I half-*** things, but I was crazy tireless in my mind but my body couldn't keep up if you know what I mean. Before the fast I was lazy, unmotivated, unhealthy, had no goals. Now I'm taking a 180 degree turn from those things.
Yeah being vegan is hard if you don't know how to make food and limit your options. Before fast, I only ate soy, pasta, and other crap. But now I love to eat and try all vegetables and fruits. Man I feel so energized in my day. I don't feel sleepy, no brain dog, forgetfulness. I keep finding new things to do.
The reason why I am vegan is because I am spiritual and I believe I owe a lot of karmic debt to the universe from eating a mostly meat diet and the stuff I've done in my past. I don't follow any religion, but I take the best wisdoms from those I've learned.
The only times where I'm gained muscle were in high school when I was in the track team. They beat us hard. But we got whipped. Meat made it easier for me to gain lean muscle. Damn I had strong legs/thighs back then. After high school, took lots of drugs. Turned vegetarian thinking it would help my situation. Still ate crap and I ate/drank lots of soy (poison). 2 summers ago, went to the gym, bulked up. Noticed I have a wide chest/back, and grew my arms. Creatine helped, but once I got off (broke my ankle jumping a flight of stairs) the gym and creatine, my muscles diminished. Don't wanna take creatine again though. Lots of Sugar and crap I wouldn't eat anyways. Then I was in one of the best shotokan karate dojos in NYC. My teacher is a world champion and such and he's only 27,28. Felt good doing his exercises and katas. I had a clearer mind and felt energized after each workout. Felt stronger. Once my BDD got wild, I stopped attending. A year later I fasted and now I'm here. My frame is still there just diminished. I know once I start exercising again, I'm going to get bigger even more so then previous times. There are people on low calorie all green veggie diets that gain lean muscle like crazy. I can't eat all green. I need variety. But I believe I can gain my weight and gain muscle once I'm done with refeeding.
You know your body, so keep doing what you think is best for you.
Good luck/God bless,
Blaise
- Re: Day 4 Blaise
13 y
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13 y
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