Is it just me or have you noticed how the story keeps changing about the nuclear plant? We know pretty much every government always waters down the story at first and gradually lets the truth out when the cats out of the bag already. Check out this video below.
Also with all the rolling black outs, their government going to print 1 trillion more, this is going to do some serious damage to their economy, along with ours. The "experts" ihere in the US, say Japan printing $1 trillion will make the dollar weaker too, which I find hard to believe, but it's going to affect things that's for sure. Japan has a 10 trillion dollar debt already. Their auto industry will be hurt by the black outs too. And their insurance companies bought up a bunch of Europe's debt before this happened, so Europe will affect this too, because that debt will be the first thing sold by the insurance companies to help pay for the damage claims.
We all know the reactor is melting down to some point since they admitted it. My questions is, how do you stop it once it's started? I don't believe you can although I'm not an "expert" that's for sure. But if the concrete has been burnt through and no one can go near the place, then you can't seal it. All you can do is dump water on it forever, so it doesn't get worse. Like that's going to happen too.
And no one can go in there to see if the reactor is still contained, so how do they know? I've listened to a few of the "experts" explaining all this and it doesn't make since! It reminds me of a cop or judge explaining how you're guilty, when it's all just smoke and mirrors.
As for how to handle this particular meltdown? I think part of the situation is that these don't happen very often, at least, as far as what we are told they don't, so there really are no actual experts of this type...at least, the way I look at it an actual expert is somebody who got to be expert as a result handling a similar and real situation over and over and over.....till they got so good at it they had become an expert. There may be a paper experts - ones who trained over and over to meet whatever certs are required by nuclear regulatory agencies....but there are no actual experts. The theory of what regulatory agents require versus actual ground zero experience are two different animals. As far as what the public is generally aware historically, there has been no opportunity to develop such experts. As far as what the public is generally aware, there was Chernobyl, there was 3Mile Island, and there is this current situation in Japan. Chernobyl, we were told, was so bad that the answer to your question would be - you can't stop it because the reactor had been so badly damaged that it had disintegrated... you can't stop something that is already gone, as in, it is no more. We were told that 3MI was " operator error" that was corrected before the situation got really bad, as in Chernobyl bad.
As for whether or not the public is getting the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth out of the media, I would expect the status quo for this disaster. This is to say, we are told whatever we are told regardless of how this squares with the truth. After all, the media, as an apparatus, is involved with refining lies to the extent of making lies resemble the truth.
Put these two together and the question is - have any of the reactors in Japan been so badly damaged that there is nothing left to stop? - but no matter what the true answer is , we should not expect to hear this from the media.
Good answer Ohfor! I hope the reactors hold out till at least thursday. That may be the jet stream stops aiming at us here in Washington. We're on storm number 9 in 8 or 9 days today.
[4:29] explosion at #3 similar to #1 but more severe.
[6:45] Unit #1: extra(?) rods (fuel) were stored in the upper exploded portion: gone now.
[8:55] After such an explosion, only a 24hr monitoring can tell if the inner vessel is breached by the huge explosion. [..] Up to 0.5 percent of the contents can be emitted and it would still be called "intact" (based on venting radioactive steam). If the steam vent works, then < 0.5 percent would be emitted in a 24hr period, keeping us under critical pressure. At this time, according to sources, pressure being maintained through gas venting.
[11:47] This sounds nice and safe, but in fact: pressure reading and volume reading are two different things [NOTE HERE IS HIS FIRST HINT OF DECPETION/LIES FROM OFFICIAL SECTORS] We need to know how much of the volume has decreased, not just the pressure. It is only when you have that figure, that you know how much material has been emitted to the atmosphere.
[14:20] In other words, in the vessel, pressure is rising and may explode.
[16:00] We did see a hydrogen explosion, not a controlled release, rather, leakage from containment vessel is suspected, but the explosion occurred OUTSIDE the vessel not within the vessel which would be worse. [...] The design permits us to add nitrogen to cool. Unfortunately when you vent gas for pressure, you lose the nitrogen cooling. Also venting may allow oxygen to enter the containment vessel. This is hypothetical, but if you have hydrogen leave and oxygen enter, risk of containment vessel exploding increases. Not enough data at this time as to this.
[19:00] But I would like to ask, did anyone think Hydrogen explosion could occur in the containment building? [because] Hydrogen does explode. [HE IS HINTING THAT THE UNEXPECTED MAY HAPPEN AS IT HAS HAPPENED ALREADY]
[20:00] To cool, you need pumps, water and electricity. [...] These are all haphazard at this time, only partially available [...] if we can keep the rods submerged, then we can see this getting better. [...] But these ideas of sufficient water and pump-electricity are at this time, haphazard. Question: Is the cooling process happening in fact? [24:00] These are the questions the press needs to ask [HE SAYS TO ASK THESE QUESTIONS].
[25:00] Cooling with seawater seems to have disrupted. Also the electricity systems may have been damaged. As a result, these difficulties are occurring in several plants. We are seeing multiple such-failures. [26:00] At some plants the generators have been able to start and are working. But in others, the generators have failed to start. In other words, there are multiple factors affecting the whole very very severe situation. [27:00] Statements by the officials are that ample supplies of water have been secured so we are hoping the rods are submerged but there is question as to this. [28:00] the reason I am not being precise is that there is some question as to the monitors that check the water levels are actively working or if they are faulty. However the announcements are admitting this, the answer is that there are other ways being used to gauge the water level. According to these other parameters there is reason to say that the rods are immersed. I am not saying the situation is reversed or nearing closure. More correct would be to say we are in a very delicate situation.
[30:00] --I would like to correct my previous comments. I just learned this info about Unit #2 at plant #1: The fuel rods in the #2 unit are exposed and I do not know the accuracy of this information, but at least partially they seem to be exposed. This announcement was from the power company and was reported by NHK and by Kyoto. I do not know enough about this particular situation to comment further.
[32:00] Also I would like to point out that you can cool the rods if you secure proper circulation in the system. As you know, seawater is being used however this is not actually an example of a good circulation system. By pumping seawater, it is just heat-exchange, not circulation. Hence this is a very serious situation in that you have a makeshift system.
So, this is a very serious situation. As you have fuel rods that are partially exposed.
There are people trying to completely submerge the rods.
So there are 2 situations that are being observed.
1) reactor core
2) state of the containment vessel
Initially, Clif High has talked about the 'Ill Winds' that his webbot has predicted - a radioactive cloud that was to circulate the planet, specifically the northern Hemisphere, for up to nine (9) times. According to Clifs earlier reports this was to be caused by what he called 'the Israeli Mistake'. Clif has admitted that when it comes down to the detail level, his webbot has come up a bit on the short end of its ability to be precise.
My gut is telling me that this has begun with the nuke plants in Japan melting down.
Chaz, & other folks in west coast Canada & the Northwest US, it is suggested to secure for yourselves some potassium Iodide tablets, lugols, magnescent iodine, kelp tablets and other seaweed products, as there are already shortages being reported.
I bought a bunch of the RADSticker's, Potassium Iodide (KI) Vial and Military M8 Chemical Detector and Identifier's from here. http://www.ki4u.com/products1.php
Like you said it's best to take the good/natural Iodine products first and the one's from that site as a last resort. We take two types of seaweed products already and have a several month supply.
Other than that, I'm keeping my mouth shut. Too discussed with MSM right now. :-)