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"A daily low-dose aspirin pill, taken with a glass of milk, could halve people's risk of dying from cancer, according to a study published in Lancet."
"The findings of the study involving 25,000 patients appear in the medical journal today and are regarded as major breakthrough."
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Regular Use of Aspirin Increases Risk of Crohn's Disease by 5 Times, Study Finds
ScienceDaily (May 19, 2010) — People who take aspirin regularly for a year or more may be at an increased risk of developing Crohn's disease, according to a new study by the University of East Anglia (UEA).
Led by Dr Andrew Hart of UEA's School of Medicine, the research was presented for the first time at the Digestive Disease Week conference in New Orleans.
Crohn's disease is a serious condition affecting 60,000 people in the UK and 500,000 people in the US. It is characterized by inflammation and swelling of any part of the digestive system. This can lead to debilitating symptoms and requires patients to take life-long medication. Some patients need surgery and some sufferers have an increased risk of bowel cancer.
Though there are likely to be many causes of the disease, previous work on tissue samples has shown that aspirin can have a harmful effect on the bowel. To investigate this potential link further, the UEA team followed 200,000 volunteers aged 30-74 in the UK, Sweden, Denmark, Germany and Italy. The volunteers had been recruited for the EPIC study (European Prospective Investigation into Cancer and Nutrition) between 1993 and 1997.
The volunteers were all initially well, but by 2004 a small number had developed Crohn's disease. When looking for differences in aspirin use between those who did and did not develop the disease, the researchers discovered that those taking aspirin regularly for a year or more were around five times more likely to develop Crohn's disease.
The study also showed that aspirin use had no effect on the risk of developing ulcerative colitis -- a condition similar to Crohn's disease.
"This is early work but our findings do suggest that the regular use of aspirin could be one of many factors which influences the development of this distressing disease in some patients," said Dr Hart.
"Aspirin does have many beneficial effects, however, including helping to prevent heart attacks and strokes. I would urge aspirin users to continue taking this medication since the risk of aspirin users possibly developing Crohn's disease remains very low -- only one in every 2000 users, and the link is not yet finally proved."
Further work must now be done in other populations to establish whether there is a definite link and to check that aspirin use is not just a marker of another risk factor which is the real cause of Crohn's disease. The UEA team will also continue its wider research into other potential factors in the development of Crohn's disease, including diet.
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This is a reply to # 1,735,750if this is true, it might indicate inflammation is a factor in developing cancer, right?
- Re: Aspirin and milk miracle mix sig... Hveragerthi
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if this is true, it might indicate inflammation is a factor in developing cancer, right?
Not really. Cancer and inflammation in the first place is like the chicken and egg question. Which came first? Did the inflammation cause the cancer? Or did the cancer causing the tissue damage cause the inflammation? I lean more towards the later.
And it is easy for them claim something like this by manipulating statistics. When they make such claims without actually showing a mechanism for the effects this generally means that their conclusions are based on manipulated observation, not scientific tests.
Aspirin may have an effect one way though. But that would be to slow the growth of cancers, not prevent them. Aspirin is a prostaglandin inhibitor, so it constricts the blood vessels reducing blood supply to the tissues. This includes to tumors, which need a consistent blood supply to feed. But again the aspirin poses risks including hemorrhaging to death if the cancer causes a bleeding situation.
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This is a reply to # 1,735,750Original publication (most recent):
http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(10)62110-1/abstract
Previous publication - Abstract in Pubmed
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20970847
Peter M Rothwell (author’s page, contacts, etc...)
http://www.stroke.ox.ac.uk/
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"A daily low-dose aspirin pill, taken with a glass of milk, could halve people's risk of dying from cancer, according to a study published in Lancet."
"The findings of the study involving 25,000 patients appear in the medical journal today and are regarded as major breakthrough."
Read more: http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/health/aspirin-milk-mix-the-silver-bul...It would be interesting to see the actual study to see how they came up with this. Studies are frequently manipulated to make things appear a certain way. And the article is merely reporting what they heard somewhere, correct or not. For instance they claim that aspirin helps with heart attacks and strokes, but the fact is that aspirin can actually contribute to both. NSAID's like aspirin can also lead to joint deterioration leading to worsening of arthritis. And I would love for them to explain the helps pre-eclampsia claim being that hypertension is a hallmark here and aspirin constricts blood vessels raising blood pressure. And I have yet to see any real solid evidence to prove it has anything to do with preventing cancers. Again most of these claims are based on manipulated statistics, not actual evidence.
For example there use to be a commercial where this aspirin product was claimed to prevent a second heart attack by 50%. But it was later revealed how they came up with this number. They first gave over 100 test subjects aspirin for a certain period of time. Then they chose SIX people out the over 100 test subjects. Three of the 6 had not had a second heart attack by that time, thus they claimed a 50% reduction of a second heart attack. The commercials were stopped after the misleading claims were exposed.
Keep in mind that aspirin can also lead to Reye's syndrome, stomach ulcerations and hemorrhage. It is estimates that aspirin kills over 5,000 people yearly, primarily due to ulceration and hemorrhage. But again it can also lead to heart attacks and strokes, which are rarely reported to be from the aspirin.
Aspirin is not a miracle drug, it is a very dangerous drug that should not be taken casually.
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This is a reply to # 1,736,288“And the article is merely reporting what they heard somewhere, correct or not.”
Exactly! This is the kind of misinformation that transpires from the insanely (re)creative media to the general public. It seems not so harmful or effective nowadays as we became desensitized with all sorts of sensationalist and bombastic headlines. We may give a good laugh about it, but we lose in the process: even if all could have access to the full original data, only a few would know how to interpret the results. What I am absolutely sure is that “Milk” and “Miracle” are never mentioned in that study.
“But again it can also lead to heart attacks and strokes, which are rarely reported to be from the aspirin.”
The study was conducted by the Stroke Prevention Research Unit – University of Oxford. Could they be so obscenely (not to say deliberately) misguided to ignore the risks?!
At least this article seems a little more balanced, offering different re-views:
“Note that the findings, by themselves, do not prove that aspirin prevents cancer or even cancer death and that the role of aspirin as a chemoprevention agent needs clarification by further studies.”
http://www.medpagetoday.com/HematologyOncology/OtherCancers/23768
The same source [medpagetoday] also provides a sort of bombastic headline for stroke, but they advise that "the study's outcome was intima-media thickness, a surrogate marker for stroke and acute myocardial infarction, rather than a hard clinical endpoint."
"Unpleasant People May Be More Prone to Stroke"
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The study was conducted by the Stroke Prevention Research Unit – University of Oxford. Could they be so obscenely (not to say deliberately) misguided to ignore the risks?!
It is easy to derive true, but misleading claims on drugs depending on how you choose to look at the results and where you focus the intention. I did a video on Coumadin that shows a great example of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZcJhSn4RS4
Coumadin is frequently prescribed to prevent strokes (CVAs). So the medical establishment claims it reduces the risk of stokes. Is this true? Well, yes and no. Coumadin will reduce the risk of thrombic stroke, but significantly increases the risk of hemorrhagic stroke. So can they claim it reduces the risk of strokes? Yes, because it does for one form. Is their claim misleading? Yes, because it can cause another potentially more deadly form of stroke.
The same goes for aspirin. Can it reduce the risk of stroke? Yes, in the manner it reduces the risk of blood clots. But it also thins out the blood and reduces the strength of blood vessels by decreasing vitamin C levels. Thus, like Coumadin, it can increase the risk of hemorrhagic stroke. If we want to take it a step further it is also well known that aspirin can cause other internal hemorrhages, especially of the gastrointestinal tract. This can lead to hypovolemia resulting in a stroke. By only focusing on thrombic stroke they can claim aspirin reduces the risk of strokes. If they look at the whole picture though then we find that aspirin also increases the risk of strokes.
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Aspirin is not a miracle drug, it is a very dangerous drug that should not be taken casually.
I bought some white willow tincture hoping it would be a good alternative to taking aspirin [or ANY pain reliever!] but I can't figure out how much of it to take in relation to what I would take with aspirin, i.e., "two tablets or caps every four hours". Is white willow really any better anyway?
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Aspirin is not a miracle drug, it is a very dangerous drug that should not be taken casually.
I bought some white willow tincture hoping it would be a good alternative to taking aspirin [or ANY pain reliever!] but I can't figure out how much of it to take in relation to what I would take with aspirin, i.e., "two tablets or caps every four hours". Is white willow really any better anyway?
Willow bark is a weaker version of aspirin. The levels of the active compound can vary, so it is hard to say how much to use.
But depending on what kind of pain there are often many other better options.
- Re: Aspirin and milk miracle mix sig... GrannyCat
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This is a reply to # 1,738,884But are any of those options ones that work like NSAIDs do? By that I mean, you take a couple of pills and within 30 minutes or so the pain is less or gone?
Or are you speaking of options that you take all the time and take a month to work?
Is there ANY WAY to take NSAIDs with something ELSE to make them less damaging?
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But are any of those options ones that work like NSAIDs do? By that I mean, you take a couple of pills and within 30 minutes or so the pain is less or gone?
Ginger is a natural NSAID due to the gingerol, which has a very similar structure to aspirin. Wintergreen or birch essential oils can be applied topically to painful areas for their anti-inflammatory properties due to natural aspirin compounds.
Yucca root Devil's claw and licorice root are steroidal anti-inflammatories and so are actually stronger than NSAIDs.
Or are you speaking of options that you take all the time and take a month to work?All of those work quick, and there are still other options depending on what pain is being treated. If you can find Indian pipe this is a narcotic pain reliever. Very strong, very fast, but hard to find though. The only pain reliever I can think of that is slow would be DL-phenylalanine (DLPA), which takes about 2 weeks to kick in. But this is more for chronic pain as from arthritis or other more chronic condition. It is slow to kick in, but once it kicks in the pain relieving effects are long lasting, usually for about a month.
So again the best choice for a pain reliever will depend a lot on the pain being treated.
Sometimes the best way to deal with pain is not to mask it but to address the cause.
Is there ANY WAY to take NSAIDs with something ELSE to make them less damaging?Not really. NSAIDs can cause a variety of issues including heart attack, stroke, kidney failure, liver failure, etc. And contrary to popular belief this does not require overdose or long term use. NSAIDs can cause these issues in some people with a single recommended dose. I know 4 people who had their kidneys shut down and one person develop liver failure after taking a single recommended dose of ibuprofen (Advil, Motrin, Nuprin, etc.). But these issues are not limited to ibuprofen. Other NSAIDs can cause some of these same side effects including naproxen (Aleve) and celecoxib (Celebrex).
During clinical trials there were 2 dozen deaths reported from ibuprofen induced liver failure.
The most common cause of death though from NSAIDs is from internal bleeding. By interfering with prostaglandins NSAIDs prevent the formation of the stomach's protective mucous lining. So the stomach acid can directly attack the stomach wall leading to bleeding ulcers. Even taking something like slippery elm to coat the stomach wall is really not going to help though since the mucilage from the slippery elm will not remain in the stomach to protect it at all times unless you were taking the slippery elm frequently throughout the day. And the only other option really would be antacids or proton pump inhibitors (acid blockers), but these are just going to create a whole new set of heath issues including nutritional deficiencies, allergies, infections, increased risk of heart disease, etc.
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