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Trapper- I know you are open to conspircies... so I post this imporant info here as it will only be permitted on a few forums. not only are we being polluted out in the envirment, but, as you know, our bodies are also be polluted and broken, slowly and methodically. Sadly, vit D supplements fall into this category, and its time people wake up and understand what is happening. Take heed, it is important for your health.
Here is what you will not hear from the mainstream:
"Most alarming, however, is the fact that the medical community is currently oblivious to yet another public health disaster of epic proportions – one that is affecting the entire population. In an effort to curb chronic disease, well-intentioned researchers are promoting vitamin D, a substance that, according to recent molecular modeling research, can act as an immunosuppressive steroid. Studies which incorrectly interpret the reason for low vitamin D in patients with chronic disease have been seized upon by the media, and form the basis of massive advertising campaigns – which, along with ill-informed recommendations by doctors and researchers, have created a perfect storm of misunderstanding and bad advice."
What follows are fourteen pieces of a puzzle that, when complete, reveal a massive misunderstanding of the actions of vitamin D.
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http://bacteriality.com/2007/09/15/vitamind/
http://bacteriality.com/2009/08/10/iom/
http://bacteriality.com/2007/10/24/brain_lesions/
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- Re: the vitamin D conspiracy. Newport
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,643,044So what you are saying is that bad science like this and Wolff Chaikoff or normal every day dumping down of the sheople...
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1045813#i
Crying Wolf?
http://www.optimox.com/pics/Iodine/IOD-04/IOD_04.html
Since Wolff-Chaikoff iodine is bad, fluoride and bromide are good for you..
-- FDA
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- Re: the vitamin D conspiracy. johng
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This is a reply to # 1,643,075Of course you know the pattern now, and know this particular bit of BS better than I do... bad is good and good is bad. then crank out so many bs studies that people don't even bother to think about... attack anyone who questions whether something is amiss. think we can dig out a few more good examples of this pattern?- Re: the vitamin D conspiracy. Newport
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This is a reply to # 1,643,081To show the extent of this there is an old post of mine showing how the body's natural iodine content has diminished dramatically each time those studies have been updated.
I believe before Wolff-C the normal content was +1500mg, then 20 to 30 mg of iodine...and now....
http://www.liebertonline.com/doi/abs/10.1089/105072501750362745?journalCode=thy
Studies are cheap, only FIAT money anyhow...no conspiracy here...move along...
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This is a reply to # 1,643,044Blasphemy!
I've been taking 10,000 IU every day and I feel better on it!
Obviously, I'm being sarcastic. Don't want anyone taking Vitamin D.
- Re: the vitamin D conspiracy. Newport
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This is a reply to # 1,643,085I posted once that those Phillips UVA sunbed bulbs can be used to convert some of the bad VitD to good VitD...
Then the other day I find out that UVA beds are now heavily taxed world wide...the reason given was cancer...
You must love BIG BROTHER. It is not enough to obey him: you must love him.
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This is a reply to # 1,643,088Predictable isn't it...
And yet the toxic, cancer causing sunscreens go untaxed!
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This is a reply to # 1,643,085sarcasm welcome. I take enough !@#$ on other forums for this that you have to laugh. but not too long, this is real and hurting people.- Re: the vitamin D conspiracy. #118887
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This is a reply to # 1,643,090Yeah, it really is quite disturbing!!!
I've also followed your posts regarding Vitamin D as well. I always take note when a difference of opinion isn't allowed as well. Seems to be a trend.
Unfortantely I was one of those that listened to the Vitamin D council early on... took 6,000 - 10,000 IU. Felt good "in the beginning." Developed asthma later as well as other conditions!- Re: the vitamin D conspiracy. Newport
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took 6,000 - 10,000 IU. Felt good "in the beginning." Developed asthma later as well as other conditions!
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as you should, once you stopped fighting all those pathogens in your body no one seems to know exist you feel better. They however don't stop, and begin to take over other areas swiftly... - Re: the vitamin D conspiracy. johng
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This is a reply to # 1,643,101i used to live on cod liver oil. my health fell apart.. fixing that now. i wish people could get that...
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This is a reply to # 1,643,044
Now we're starting this up in Trapper's forum? Good grief!
The vast, vast majority of independent scientific opinion as well as alternative health opinion agrees that Vitamin D is beneficial in mulitiple ways. Without it, life would not exist. It isn't a conspiracy, it is simply a universal fact.
The human body will produce up to 20,000 units of Vitamin D daily from sunshine (but no more). The sun is of course the preferred natural source; however not all people are able or willing to get as much sunlight as they need. While a very small number of people may have problems from supplementing larger amounts of Vitamin D3, supplementation of reasonable amounts has benefits for the very large majority who do not get regular sunshine.
So, if one is concerned or thinks they notice any negative effects, by all means have your serum levels tested and cut back or increase Vitamin D as needed. Otherwise, listen to what the vast majority of the world is telling you and don't get caught up in unsupported conspiracy theories or the pick and choose pseudo science of Trevor Marshall and his shills who depend on scaring people about Vitamin D in order to promote his bogus Marshall Protocol.
Like I suggested earlier, we need a Vitamin D debate forum so that other forums don't continue to get hijacked by an issue that has already been beaten to death.
Ugh!
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This is a reply to # 1,643,116The power of the sun in the palm of your hand.
Whatever happened to that saying if it's too good to be true...
Seriously though, many are being 456'd- Re: Deja Vu? Dquixote1217
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I don't contend that supplemental Vitamin D3 is as good as natural Vitamin D3 from sunlight, nor do I propose that anyone take Vitamin D3 to avoid sunlight (which has other benefits beyond producing Vitamin D3) any more than I contend that most vitamins, minerals, enzymes, phtyo nutrients, etc., are better in supplemental form than they are from natural food and plant sources. However, when you can't or don't get enough sunlight, there may well be a price to pay unless you supplement.
I would say that rather than being too good to be true, Vitamin D3 is too good to ignore. Other than that, I have said what I will here - there have already been far too many drawn out threads and debates on the subject.
- Re: Deja Vu? #118887
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This is a reply to # 1,643,165Not here to change your mind. Studies can be spun in whichever direction someone sees fit. Experiences always trump studies IME. I know my experience.
It's like the whole tocopherols issue all over again except Vitamin D is much much more dangerous and more detrimental to "long-term" health, IME... I fell for both.
Why push Vitamin D supplementation but forget the co-factors for Vitamin D... Magnesium, Vitamin K, Zinc, Boron, and Vitamin A?
- Re: Deja Vu? InnerCalm
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This is a reply to # 1,643,237Take it even further. Educate people on holistic health vs quick fixes. We have seen quick fixes are never a long term solution. This is the same paradigm that is offered by mainstream medicine.
Science and technology trying to improve on nature has failed miserably. Don't believe me? Look around at our current world.
The evidence is astounding.
Now we have taken this paradigm to a level of madness whereby we are trying to use science and technology to improve the mess we have made by science and technology.
But where ever money is being made and egos are involved.....
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This is a reply to # 1,643,044Two things:
First thing: I live so far north in the US that in winter my Vit D falls to a great big 4! That's right 4. It is impossible to get enough sun light on your skin when it is 30 below zero. I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but I am not and will not get out and expose myself in late fall/winter/early spring to try and get the needed Vit. D. I also can tell you, as a victim of low Vit.D, that low Vit. D levels really suck. I feel horrible, have depression (SAD?), get sick, etc. and am basically non-functional.
Second thing: I don't care what the various studies for or against Vit. D say. I have found, even in warm, sunny weather, that if exposed to undesirable pathogens (i.e. flu, etc.) and if I start getting the telltale signs of sore throat, tiredness, etc. that are the prelude to getting very sick, that bumping my Vit. D. intake to 50,000 units a day for 1-3 days and the pathogen is history and my immune system is up to snuff. So, maybe it is the pathogen's immune system that is brought low, because my immune system clearly improves.
The way I look at supplements, vitamins, foods, is to listen to my body. Trust me, if my body doesn't like something I put into my mouth, it lets me know in one big fat hurray with a You fed me WHAT?!!! And my response is, I'm sorry, I'll never do it again, I PROMISE!!! When it comes to Vit. D2, my body could care less. When it comes to Vit. D 3, my body says, more please! just like it does with iodine, or don't you believe in iodine either?
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