Dear Slider,

First off, let me just congratulate you on getting your liver stones out. I'm sorry it wasn't the entire problem, but i still think its incredible what you've accomplished! Truly, congratulations! I'm so impressed.

It seems like having more information about the cause of your symptoms could be worthwhile here. These are the ways that I personally am using to get diagnosed:

my favorite way of getting diagnosied - medical intuitives, 3 of which I've found out from curezone. http://www.douglasjamescottrell.com/ I read about mr. cottrell on curezone, and he is currently doing a reading for me, but i haven't received it yet, so i can't say if he's accurate at this point. he's expensive - 175$ for a 1/2 hour reading, but he worked a deal with me on the price, so he is flexible (if you call him, and not his son). The other intuitivies that take appointments are of course Andreas and Swami.

There's also a kinda strange machine, the scio machine, which does diagnosis. it was developed by an engineer with an autistic child, (he cleared the autism using it). it sends frequencies into the body - and the body responds by returning the same frequencies - so if you have lyme disease, for example, the scio machine will register that you have lyme disease because your body will be able to return that frequency to the machine. I've used it; it wasn't the 'cureall' for me, but I didn't expect it to be given my problem (long term poisoning). This machine was 'the answer' for one person whose testimonial i read on curezone. It diagnosed him with an intestional infection - i forget what - and he was healthy shortly after. I personally consider this machine to be very safe; much safer than the EAV (elecric voltage) machines which 'alternative practioners' frequently use for diagnosis. Here's the link. There's a listing of practicioners on thier site http://www.qxciscio.com/

There's also something which I just have to mention because its a stone that people generally don't unturn; oral galvanism, which is the electricity generated by metal fillings/caps in the mouth... a dentist i talked to said half his patients with muscle weakness were 'fixed' by getting the electricity out of their mouths.

There also 2 people that i would refer to you as far as 'energy workers,' people who can see into the body and work with you to clear it. it goes further than just medical intuition, although this is part of their skill. but they go father than just diagnosing and they both work on clearing the illness. one is famous, and one is not... i can't rate them highly enough. If you're interested in their names please email me. The one that is famous is very expensive, but he's the one that seems to be getting to the true source of my particular problem. I think its amazing that it takes a few weeks to get an appointment with him; whereas it takes a few months or more to get an appointment with a specialist. Of the two, in my experience the energy worker has been much, much, more fruitful.

I know there are alot of products out there... I mention these 2 cuz they have are excellent, but also because they have a wide range of application, and since you don't know what the problem is yet, they, esp the first, may help.

atomic Iodine (an Edgar Cayce recipe) which is detoxified Iodine which can be found at http://www.cayceconcepts.com Cayce recommended the Iodine product for 'incoordination of the glands.' - for almost everyone, basically. Of the 2 products, this is the one that I think could help, given the bags and fatigue - which certainly could be a glandular problem (which doctors will never even come close to diagnosing unless it is extremely - extreme.)

Also 'weed lympatic formula' which is an awesome lymph cleaner. As a formula i don't think its too different than what's out there. but it made my sweat come out 'stickly' and almost metallic looking, so i know it really worked. it made the lymph empty out black stuff all over the body in another patient of my chiropractor; when the black stuff cleared, her cancer left. so this product seems to be above the norm. i mention it becuase of the bags under your eyes. Weed Botanical Company - 800-878-1001 (CST)


Good luck in getting to the bottom of it! And, again, congratulations.
LisaG

do you have any Amalgam fillings in the mouth per chance? euphimistically called "silver fillings" those can be upto 60% mercury i heard... and unless you get them replaced (by a holistic dentist who will follow the proper protocol) no amount of Liver Flushing will help you... root canals are also deadly for one's health... :( !!

What other cleansing have you done?
What diet changes have you made?
Have you had any tests done to better understand what is causing the fatique?

A clean liver is a good foundation to work from, but Liver Flushing is just one step on the road to regaining true health. Don't feel like you've wasted any effort - your liver is now MUCH more able to handle whatever else needs to be done. Keep looking and keep asking and keep educating yourself.

Slider, at least now you know you have a clean liver. If I was you I would flush every few months just to keep it that way. It can't all be a waste of time. I know I was very pleased at getting out what I did, it shouldn't have been there anyway. Keep looking after your health and it will look after you in the long run.

My immediate idea was "heavy metal" toxins in your body.
Check out infrared saunas. Sweating is the only way to get those out of your body.
Good luck with everything.

I thought I was done after 8,9 and 10 produced almost nothing and 11 produced about 25. Then, 12 produced a couple hundred lentil sized stones. And flush 13 produce many several hundred , some the size of chickpeas. Also, yellow bile came out after flush #13 after the stones.

I thinkt he difference was I followed a very cleansing diet for 2 weeks before #12 (fruit and veg only) and before flush 13 fasted for 1 day and took malic acid in very large doses for 2 days before.

FInally I feel my liver is ready to hanlde some deeper cleansing and i"m to be doing some juice fasting.

Then your body can begin to clear out years of accumulated toxins which are the cause of disease.

hi,

it is really a very good and encouraging news for fellow flushers. have you done ultrasound. Pls. do ultrasound and tell us your gb is now stone free. that will be a encouraging news for us that will boost our morale.

regards