Hey Ohfor, I know that the subject matter is of some interest to you.
The only thing that anybody can do at this stage is to become familar with who these guys are, and what they have been preaching/lecturing on. There are four names that are available to do some research on which are:
The Guardian Elders:
Tim Turner
Tom Schaults
Regan Dwayne
Sam Kennedy *(Sam signed the cover letter to the package that was delivered to the 50 govenors, and does not actually admit to being one of the elders. There is a fourth person that wishes to remain anonymous at this time.)
For starters here's a recent Tim Turner seminar done in Texas: http://picasaweb.google.com/RiddleMtnMan/TIMTURNERSEMINARAPRIL20098PARTS?feat...
Tim Turner: "I would like to do a disclaimer… I want you to understand I am not an attorney. What I am telling you in this seminar, I don’t give as legal advice. I am an internationally licensed lawyer through the Cherokee Indian Nation. I got the documents to prove that. However I am not a legal professional, and don’t claim to be. I could not be a barred attorney… in fact, one judge asked me if I was a barred attorney? And I told him, “No sir, I am not barred from telling the truth.”
But the bottom line is that I am somewhat trained in law… and I do win. And I am going to show you how to win. Because I abide by God’s law and the maxim’s of law. And so do the courts! They just don’t want you to know that. But they have to. I am going to show you how to force them to do that. And how to make them pay if they don’t. Because we’ve learned that the Achilles heel of the courts, and these agencies, is their bonds. And if you can take their bonds, you can deal with them. Because once you take a lawyer’s bond, or a judge’s bond, or a clerk’s bond, they are out of gas. They are through. Their career is over. So they have to decide that dealing with you is going to be worth their career. And that is what we are going to teach you about this weekend."
That's all I have for now.
Thanks for posting the Sam Kennedy info.
Thinking that, because of the timing, that there may be a connection between Christopher Story's article written January 6, 2010 on the take down of "Operation Stillpoint" (http://www.worldreports.org/news/257_operation_stillpoint_to_destroy_america_...), which offers explanation as to why Obama suspended habeas corpus and allowed INTERPOL diplomatic immunitiy in this country with Executive Order 13524, and the urgency for the 'Guardian Elders' to get the letters in the hands of the 50 govenors, I have come to find that Chistopher Story opines that the Restore America Plan is "baloney" based seemly on the consequential action of one Govenor of Pennsylvania (http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=170022). The Christopher Story excerpt can be viewed below.
The biggest thing that may be working for or against the Guardians for the free Republics is perhaps their own past track record, as several have been part of the tax protester/Redemption movements. Whether any of them have ever actually been involved in what has been criticized as the "Patriots for Profit" shenanegans has yet to be determined. Below is part of a posted letter critical of Sam (and other guardians) from another couple of Constitutionalists who had met Sam Kennedy on a previous occasion. The entire letter can be read at: http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=170113
"One final note: You and many others, such as Jack Smith, Winston Shrout, Barton Butz, and scores of other people going back to the late thirties, forties and fifties, have been teaching various sundry combinations of Commercial/Maritime/Admiralty/Redemption/UCC methods, etc., etc. to the American People, which, to the extreme detriment of America, has taken the focus of hundreds of thousands of people, if not millions, who could have acted as true patriots and true Constitutionalists, and embroiled them in these off-track, mercenary methods, which basically appear more interested in personal gain than in restoration of Constitutional governance in this nation. Whether you and the others believe that what you were doing was correct, or not, the results are the same. As you may know, “government” cleverly sets up “opposition” to its programs, replete with shills and provocateurs, to ensure that any real patriotic efforts are distracted from their objectives, enticed with “a pot of gold at the end”, insidiously divided and eventually disbanded.
"The above referenced methods were not designed to be effective or successful. In our view, they were designed to deceive, which is why there have been so few real victories over many, many years, despite rigorous efforts by their proponents. Proponents and their followers unwittingly did the bidding of their enemies, which is typical in this upside down world. How sad for these people and how devastatingly unfortunate for America. Evil is very, very clever, extremely enticing and so successful at manipulating even the very best minds. Sam, in our considered opinions and gut instincts, the circumstances indicate that you are being duped, and in the process, you are unwittingly duping others. We sincerely hope we are wrong, but from our past record, our guts usually prove correct.
"Had the early movements been and remained Constitutionally based and had those movements been picked up, extended, and spread throughout the country to enforce the Constitution upon every aspect of errant, de facto government throughout this nation, then, we would not be facing the diabolical, satanic, evil rule which controls virtually every aspect of American and planetary life. We expanded our seminar presentations out of New Mexico nearly four years ago to warn the People that, in our opinion, we only had about 5 to 6 years to change things Constitutionally and restore just government to America. Had you and the other groups emphatically and enthusiastically supported the Constitution, instead of focusing upon methods for monetary gain, America could be a lot safer and freer, today.
Best regards, Jack and Margy", Citizens of the American Constitution website
Christopher Story article excerpt from http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=170022:
[snip]
• CHENEY/BIDEN/NSA ‘BLACK OPS’ VERBAL TERRORISM PHONE CALLS RECEIVED IN OUR OFFICES: THIS IS DELIBERATE U.S. GOVERNMENT HARASSMENT BECAUSE WE ARE HITTING THE CRIMINALISTS' NERVES AND ARE REFUSING TO BE INTIMIDATED AND TERRORISED
• This matter has been reported inter alia to the British Consulate General, 845 Third Avenue,
@ E 52nd Street, New York, NY: 212-745 0200 with a demand that the obscene harassment ops. conducted against this service and the Editor by the Cheney/Biden/NSA cadre is taken up with the relevant US authorities and our complaint about this barbaric behaviour of a supposedly friendly Government addressed with the necessary vigour appropriate to this scandalous state of affairs.
• SALVATORE R. DEFRANCESCO LINKED TO BIDEN:
THE NEW TWIST IN THE PENNSYLVANIA FRAUD
• As you may recall, we were advised earlier that Treasury Agents and the FBI were looking for Salvatore R. DeFrancesco, and that he would be cuffed shortly. Then all of a sudden, we were told that this top Mafioso, who is Vice President of Penn Acceptance Corporation, was no longer being sought. We now realise that the reason for this is that he is being protected by Governor Edward G. Rendell of Pennsylvania. We thought that harbouring a suspected criminal was a criminal offence.
[snip]
• Note: Suggestions by fantasists on other websites that an imminent 'return' to the Constitution across the board is in the pipeline and that most State Governors have agreed to this, is baloney. The behaviour of Governor Edward G. Rendell of Pennsylvania, addressed in this report, indicates that he continues to operate without regard for the Rule of Law as he is implicated in the attempt, with Salvatore R. DeFrancesco, to embezzle the funds payable to Pennsylvania Investments, Inc. The fantasists have again revealed that they operate on the basis of 'feelings' and unwarranted assumptions based on flimsy foundations and unscientific, illogical deductions. Unprovenanced, garbled meanderings are no basis for the sweeping deductions these people specialise in, and they do a disserve to bewildered Americans who don't know where to turn for sound information.
• Update to this note: There appears to be confusion in some minds between (a) the necessity for funds to be collected so that grossly overdue obligations can be met and (b) the sudden waving of a magic wand whereby the Constitution descends from the sky like a Deus ex Machina to shower blessings on disillusioned Americans while shovelling all their woes into the trash. The position is that (a) is taking place: which is why the most high-powered American delegation in living memory descended on Mexico on 23rd March 2010 to pay a visit to President Felipe Calderon.
The delegatation, led by the Secretary of State, Mrs Hillary Clinton, included:
• The Defense Secretary, Robert Gates;
• The Homeland Security Secretary, Janet Napolitano;
• The Director of National Intelligence, Dennis Blair; and:
• The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Admiral Michael Mullen [ONI].
Conspicuous by his absence was the US Attorney General, Eric Holder: which tells you that the meeting was not about how to tackle Mexico's drug problem. Meanwhile Barack Obama surfaced in Afghanistan. One does not need a first class degree In logic to deduce what has been going on.
This has nothing to do with (b), which is a separate matter and may or may not follow through. The behaviour of Pennsylvania Governor Rendell described in this and recent reports in this series confirms that, contrary to baseless speculation, there is no change of criminal behaviour, which in turn indicates that the miraculous 'Return to the Constitution' is NOT happening (as yet), for the simple reason that in order to comply with the Constitution it is necessary to comply with the Rule of Law, which Rendell (in the pertinent case cited) is NOT doing.
That is ALL we said, and the deduction that we have 'missed what is happening' accompanied by the usual gratuitous, self-satisfied rudeness about 1776 is both uncalled for and the precise opposite of the truth if what we have been saying is understood.
Yes, I did... lots of links. I will get to them in due time. And, oh yes, enjoyed this...