i probably shouldn't respond to these posts about australia because it makes me so mad! the only thing i agree with is that 'australians aren't smart either'.

i take a dim view of gross generalisations about other races in this country. i see lots of indians/chinese/arabs/insert-race-here working back-crushing hours in convenience stores, driving taxis, cleaning, yada. if 'indians' want 'elite office jobs' and they are qualified, let them have them. (i certainly don't want one.) if 'indians' are medically trained, let them be doctors in our hospitals. (i certainly don't want to be one.)

if you have to leave your country because of war or persecution, find the courage to get on a boat, leave your family, your homeland, your language, your culture behind, and make a mighty long, perilous, horrific ocean crossing, then i reckon you deserve every chance. what you don't deserve is to be locked up in a detention centre for years, charged for the experience and then often spuriously, randomly deported. both amnesty international and the human rights commission have found australia's mandatory detention policies (and conditions in detention centres) - particularly with regards to children - to be 'inhumane'.

most australians in this country are, at best, 2nd generation migrants. what makes us more worthy of citizenship in this country than someone else? we were here first? well, we treated our indiginous people (who really were here first) absolutely deplorably and shamefully, and now we are doing the same thing with legitimate refugees.

and but there for the grace of god do we all go.

and, on a lighter note, so goes motif!
good luck, safe travels, i hope it's everything you want it to be - and more
- lulu

We've got gazillions of Indians here in Melbourne.

You would probably be shocked.

Aside from having at least 90 percent of taxi jobs, they also are very successful in obtaining a large percentage of our medical jobs, i.e, doctoring.

Motif, what kind of IT? Do you own your own company? Contract worker? Curious...

Exact situation here. Mind, didn't want to be so open, so freely spoken. Surely, you have heard of "Indian discrimination" here. I believe, it is not white ones who are attacking them, but their political enemies from back home. Just like for example the old situation that never went away with Croats v Serbs, etc. I am a migrant to this country, but never felt any "racism" here. This word is used too often and out of context of late. Aussies are anything but racist!

Alot has been going on in Australia lately affecting "social cohesion" with the host country having teething problems with new 3rd world immigrants and asylum seekers.

But don't forget "the problem" of so called racism goes both ways. People from other countries bring their particular brands of racism, bigotry, caste systems, sexism, and ways of doing particular things here without Australians asking them to change (because we've been thoroughly brainwashed with "diversity"); and then often these new arrivals accuse white Australians of racism, bigotry and treating them unfairly.

And abit of background, many Melbournians were thoroughly pissed off recently when Indians caused the city to essentially shut down by staging a full day sit-in in the middle of the city centre, also defacing certain landmarks, accusing white Australians of racism because there had been a small numbers of so named "curry bashings". Meanwhile there were concurrent cases recorded in the media of white Australians getting bashed and raped by new immigrants, but no outcry on this one.

There were reports that too, that in the case of the "curry bashings" it was immigrants bashing other immigrants and in this case, likely to be Pakistanis bashing Indians, not white australians bashing Indians but this didn't get much media attention as it didn't fit the narrative of white racism. Instead white Australians were told they were racists, and to get with the diversity program. We all felt appropriately guilty.

Noone staged a protest for the Sydney girl that was sexually assaulted by two Indians on a train from Melbourne to Sydney in the city; nothing was said about that. Instead, our Primeminister apologised profusely to the Indian Govt: We are not racist he pleased! Please don't stop sending your kids here to spend money in our education system and then stay on as permanent residents!

This is just one example of some Australians saying, racism, bigotry, and "unfair" treatment goes BOTH ways.
Just one tiny example of the simmering diversity situation we've got ourselves into.

Information is based on live TV, plus every day living experience, not gained from newspapers. Australians can't afford babies, because they want to spend quality time with kids, they want education for them, future for their children. Anybody can have kids, like rabbits, older kids looking after younger ones, parents on welfare till aged pension. Kids never go on an excursion, never see anything but the idiot box. Why bring kids into this world, for this kind of life?