Moral Principles, Humanities & Humanitarianism Vs Law of The Jungle - What Says You ?
Included below is an excerpt of a conversation between me and the other person about the issues of human rights which are in theory, rightfully and naturally deserved by the mentally-ill people and the practical problems faced by these pitiful people who are mostly denied and deprived of such basic human rights either in histrionically subtle or brazenly overt ways by the other incompassionate, callous and unfeeling people who just apathetically, self-righteously and spontaneously treat them as the inferiorly underprivileged ones rightfully deserving only any sorts of unfair treatments from the rest. So, the main issue here is that :
"Do human values and moral principles mean anything at all to most of the people nowadays ?"
Remarks made by ther other person :
Mentally ill people are ignored and cast-aside (and mental issues in general are brushed under the carpet);
My Replies :
On the contrary, for the mentally-ill people, especially the ones who have difficulties to relate themselves to the others, they are thus unable to safeguard themselves against any purposeful malicious and malignant acts of others. In short, they are far more vulnerable and susceptible to the attacks, abuses, maltreatments of the others, especially those scoundrels who would simply treat them as easy targets / preys for bullyings. And for those scoundrels doing such hurtful things to the mentally-ill people, their viewpoint can actually be summarized as such " well, since such mentally-ill people are totally defenceless, what's the harm for me to abuse them or to do anything I like or I want with them for my personal enjoyments and amusements".
Next, that particular remark is actually very much a gross understatement.
For those, especially the ones dealing with the institutionalized mentally-ill in-patients, they will surely know that such scenarios of inhumane and cruel treatments to mentally-ill people are simply the harsh reality of the real-life for such so called " mental asylums". Next, as social workers providing free counselling assistances and emotional supports to these incarcerated / institutionalized mentally-ill people, we can assure you that there are a great variety of brutally vicious unkind treatments than what you or the others could really imagine.
Next, apart from such sinisterly deliberate subtle maltreatments involving the abuses of chemical injections which exist pervasively in most of the public psychiatric facilities, we as social workers are actually very much more concerned with the deliberate physical abuses, tortures, maltreatments, brutalities etc inflicted in the forms of bashings, punchings, beatings, whackings, clobberings, batterings, cudgellings, kickings, slappings, smackings and whatever forms of purposeful physical grievous bodily harms, wounds and injuries done against the mentally ill in-patients kept in the public psychiatric medical facilities.
Saddeningly, all these physical acts of brutalities are actually and mostly "practiced" merely for the sheer amusements of those salaried sadistic medical operatives and paramedics involved.
And such acts of atrocities are actually acquiesced, condoned and connived almost totally and automatically by the authorities and other law enforcers who are not bothered at all with the physical pains and sufferings of those mentally ill in-patients kept in those medical facilities.
Just how inhumane they are.
And in fact, on several occasions, I had secretly taken some real-time photos with my hidden cell phones of certain paramedics bashing up the mentally-defunct in-patients of certain psychiatric wards before and complained such incidences to their superiors. But that actually turned out to be a complete disappointment when those evidences were accepted and then obliterated by those persons-in-charge whilst then those incidences of physical abuses and all my complainings, well, they were then just getting written-off as "non-existent" matters as if they were having at-will selective amnesia. Well, what a serious social ill and what a hypocritical social structure system that promises equal rights for every human being. Just how pathetic and saddening it is.
Remarks made by ther other person :
I want to say that people find it easy to forget that others around them have emotions.
My Replies :
Well, I quite agree with that point. And I wish to remind you and the others that under every single normal circumstance, such acts of deliberate aggravated assaults, other purposeful abuses and maltreatments etc done to anyone would definitely give rise to serious criminal charges and actionable legal proceedings as well as eventually, jail sentences for the ones perpetrating them. Whilst saying such thing as " I / other people find it easy to forget that others around them have emotions" is simply not an excuse for such hurtful things to be inflicted on anyone, especially the mentally-ill people. And neither that will be deemed as a defence against such offences in any courts of laws.
Therefore, I would very much like to remind you all that it maybe quite simple and natural for anyone to forget that others around them have emotions, but laws and orders do exist in any societies and communities, and hence, to forget about these laws and orders so as to violate them and do anything one wants to hurt other people, the consequences will surely be grave and dire. And I wish to remind you all that in terms of anyone breaking the laws and getting prosecuted, they are presumed to know the laws in the very first place, and hence, any offenders saying that " I forget or I do not know about such laws etc" would not help them in any way at all.
Remarks made by ther other person :
"Behind everyone is a brain with emotions."
My Replies :
That's a matter of course. Well, in contrast to the normal mentally sound people, the mentally-ill people have very much fragile minds and weak emotions. And as such, if it is simply a norm, fully rightful, justified, warranted and natural for anyone to prey on these pitiful people as easy targets, then how should we define our societies ? The ones being run based on the law of the jungle ? And if that's simply the case, why should we bother at all with all those moral principles and human values which are exalted as the pillars of any societies and communities ?
In a nutshell, if moral principles and human values do worth or mean something to anyone, they should be emotionally conscionable enough to treat the mentally-ill people with compassions, patiences and kindnesses such as the merits and virtues advocated by all those moral principles and human values.
Further information for the conversation above :
http://www.psychforums.com/hope/topic50308.html
Included below are some classic paintings advocating compassionate and humane treatments (in contrast to deliberate physical abuses, brutalities, maltreatments, tortures, cruelties, ridicules, derisions, disparagings, mockings, humiliations, and other forms of subtle purposeful malicious acts) for the mentally-ill people who are totally unable to defend and protect themselves at all : "The engraving of the eighth print of William Hogarth's A Rake's Progress depicting Inmates at Bedlam Asylum : The Hospital of Saint Mary of Bethlehem, a London mental hospital commonly known as Bedlam, sold admission tickets to the public in the 18th century, becoming a popular tourist attraction. In this engraving by English artist William Hogarth, part of his series A Rake’s Progress (1735), two women (seen in the background) tour the hospital, watching the mentally ill patients for their amusement. The hospital became notorious for its miserable conditions and cruel treatment of patients." http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4b/The_Rake%27s_Progress_8.jpg "Dr. Philippe Pinel at the Salpêtrière, 1795 by Robert Fleury. Pinel ordering the removal of chains from patients at the Paris Asylum for insane women French physician Philippe Pinel supervises the unchaining of mentally ill patients in 1794 at La Salpêtrière, a large hospital in Paris. Pinel believed in treating mentally ill people with compassion and patience, rather than with cruelty and violence. This painting, Pinel Frees the Insane from Their Chains, was completed by French artist Tony Robert-Fleury in 1876." http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/12/Philippe_Pinel_%C3%A0_la_S...
Pseudoscience About Psychiatric Reasoning & Biased Psychological Concepts - The Unquestioned License Fully Justifying Any Deliberate Maltreatment, Brutalities & Physical Violence Against The Cognitively Impaired Ones ?
In regard to the Title above, please refer to the excerpts as follows :
[quote]"In the meantime, saddeningly and pathetically, all these generally biased & unknowingly distorted justifications and the so-called "rule-of-the-thumb valid reasoning" would always tend to end up as the tacitly approved "license" for all these deliberate & unnecessary cruelties, brutalities, abuses and all sorts of maltreatment to be inflicted gratuitously onto the mentally-ill people who are unable to defend themselves at all, and well, in such sinister ways that are totally & implicitly acquiesced & condoned without any questions getting asked at all. whilst in certain cases, under the "conceptual framework" of these seemingly plausible and yet generally misleading "justifications", such unnecessary and gratuitous cruelties and violence are even welcomed and exalted as "effective and fully acceptable, rationally reasonable means, or rather the so-called best course of actions / "don't-need -to- be-questioned legitimate violence" against all the mentally-ills". And well, that is certainly, undisputedly & undeniably something very much saddening on both humanity and humanitarian grounds."[/quote]
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As such, that's definitely a key point to be seriously pondered over here in that, the seemingly plausible and yet totally misleading rhetorical reasoning and "justifications" based solely on nothing but pseudoscience alone rather than individually respective and specific hard facts and details under different scenarios, cases & circumstances actually invariably and indiscriminately & irreversibly seal the ill & pitiful fates of all the mentally-ills and the cognitively incapacitated, declining and disabled people so as to indiscriminately predetermine their misfortunes under most of the circumstances so as to indiscriminately and "legally" put them at the mercy of the "personnel" handling their daily lives, particularly the ones with sadistic tendencies who tend and get to freely brutalize these pitiful group of people with full and unquestioned impunity solely for their personal sadistic, perverse and deviant pleasures, amusements and enjoyments ?[/quote]
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Whilst one of the most explicit like-examples would be the old, senile and fragile old folks getting unnecessarily and physically abused, maltreated and brutalized in most of the nursery homes, due solely to their defenselessness caused by their declining cognitive abilities.[/quote]
for further information,please refer to :
http://scienceforums.com/topic/17385-antipsychotics-neuroleptics-for-mental-d...
In the meantime, in regard of the antipsychotics / neuroleptics as shown through the weblink above, it’s very much worth to take a special note that such dopamine antagonists medications actually, invariably and inevitably all carry such seriously irreversible cognitively-damaging neurological and neuro-degenerative side effects of Extrapyramidal symptoms (EPS) that include such disastrously while irreversibly serious, and yet cognitive-impairing and miscellaneous movements disorders as akinesia , Tardive dyskinesia , akathisia , acute dystonic reactions, neuroleptic malignant syndrome (NMS), and in the worst case scenario, the seriously incurable neuro-degenerative disorder of pseudoparkinsonism. And these neurological & neuro-degenerative disorders would usually manifest disastrously and yet irreversibly onto the ones who either overly rely upon them to the point of sheer abuses or have simply taken such medications over the very long-term. Whilst in connection to the remarks made in this particular post, it is again very much worthy to take note that in the case of certain people who, as a matter of fact, do not require the unnecessary intakes of such neurologically and neuro-degenerative dopamine antagonists medications at all, well, they would nevertheless seem to always get to helplessly suffer all these misfortunes of getting all the serious disorders of Extrapyramidal symptoms as mentioned above that simply get to befall upon them particularly when they are peremptorily , indiscriminately & forcibly drugged from time to time by the related “medical personnel” such as the ones mentioned in this post who would simply keep on “ feeding” them with such dopamine antagonists medications indiscriminately and totally thoughtlessly without considering the necessities of doing so at all, and in all cases & scenarios, simply do not even have the slightest knowledge about the potentially disastrous and all the irreversibly neurological & neuro-degenerative side effects carried by these dopamine antagonists medications as mentioned above. In short, invariably the welfares, health cares, well-beings of these cognitively impaired ones would simply mean nothing at all to these “medical personnel’ almost in all cases.
Follow-up :
In regard to the related topic above, please consider the excerpts of the conversation below :
Points made by the other Person :
"I see your point. Giving up any ground on the medication is useful issue is definitely a floodgate to abuses of people with diseases by the medical community who really have no clue what schizophrenia is or what to do about it. Before it was turning them into a zombie by cutting out part of their brain, now it is giving them drugs that do the same thing.
But schizophrenics, especially in their first episode, can be dangerous. If you think people are coming to kill you, or perhaps torture you, what would you do? Would you attack them? If so then you might harm innocent bystanders. If you adopt a policy of no collateral damage, having received no concrete proof that anyone around you is actually part of the "conspiracy", you might just off yourself to avoid being tortured. But what if you choose to do so in a spectacular manner? Drive your car off a cliff or blow yourself up? What if you ACCIDENTALLY take someone with you? Even if not, medication could have saved you to live another day.
I am just saying, schizophrenia can create some rather dire circumstances where a medication that dulls your mind for a while is definitely the lesser of the two evils."
My Replies :
I see your points. Well, just as what I have mentioned earlier on in my previous post, the related issue should be determined based on the different individually respective and specific hard facts and details under different scenarios, cases & circumstances for different individuals particularly based on their individual behaviors and most importantly, such actual facts as to whether what they have done might be considered to be physically violent & dangerous to they themselves or anyone else at all.
In short, these so-called "plausible reasoning" of yours simply shouldn't be assumed and presumed to be applied or applicable directly, straightaway, indiscriminately and peremptorily all across and against any cognitively impaired individuals without even a second thought or other rational and reasonable considerations.
Anyway, objectively speaking, whilst with all due respects and I definitely mean no offense that, these rather obviously over-exaggerated and seemingly highly prejudiced remarks that you have made above would simply give anyone reading them a very distorted and very much biased impression that it seems that all the cognitively impaired people are alike, seem to simply turn out to be as "monsters" or politely speaking, "unwanted eyesores" to you in your very own eyes maybe simply at your very first sight. Whilst judging from the related fully derogatory and yet hypothetically intimidating personal highly questionable comments of yours such as "If you think people are coming to kill you, or perhaps torture you, what would you do? Would you attack them?" etc that you have made above, well, you are in fact just simply giving anyone a fully biased and over-exaggerated impression or rather a spontaneously direct & inductive reasoning based on what you have written that "good riddance to all of the cognitively impaired people on sight" would be your personally-defined "best solutions", to settle the "related problem" in your "personal context".
Whilst generally and reasonably, of course not everyone, especially the rational and reasonable ones would share exactly the same overly exaggerated viewpoints and mindsets of yours.
So, is it actually your personal bigotry that is in play ? Whilst if that's simply the case, I would suggest you to make your posts and deliver your points in a more sensible and reasonable way next time. And I mean no offense at all by saying that.
By the way, about the issues of deliberate abuses that you have mentioned above, and well, just think about one very common example, regarding all the old, fragile, senile and cognitively impaired old folks living in the nursing homes, and well, surely such ugly and yet fully unaccounted issue is obviously all about the "law of the jungle" which is predominantly in play such as what I have explained and elaborated in my previous posts above.
Points made by the other Person :
"You are right, those thoughts are not representative of most schizophrenics (they were based on personal experience with an AIP person rather than an actual schizophrenic), and single cases like that are used as justification to drug lots of people who aren't really dangerous."
My replies :
I quite agree with you to a certain extent. Nevertheless, one should always bear in mind that such Dopamine antagonist medications at the very same time also carry such undesirable and yet almost fully unavoidable disastrous side effects of Extrapyramidal symptoms (EPS - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extrapyramidal_symptoms ) that include such serious neurological and neuro-degenerative disorders like akathisia, tardive dyskinesia, neuroleptic malignant syndrome, dystonia, akinesia and in the worst case scenario, parkinsonism, which might manifest disastrously and yet irreversibly onto anyone taking them particularly when these drugs are overly relied upon to the point of sheer abuse or maybe 'getting forced to be taken unnecessarily over the long-term" such as what you have mentioned as "and single cases like that are used as justification to drug lots of people who aren't really dangerous.", and well, obviously that's simply how the "law of the jungle" really works in reality, and the related question that arises is such that such scenario and the related issues such as the ones explained and elaborated in my prior posts above can really be fully tolerated, acquiesced and condoned at all on both humanity and humanitarian grounds ? Whilst the "law of the jungle" actually prevails overwhelmingly over any moral principles, underlying basic concepts of human conscience, humanity and humanitarianism nowdays ? So, what says you ? as quoted from :
http://scienceforums.com/topic/17385-antipsychotics-neuroleptics-for-mental-d...
By the way, if one were to take & make a closer observation about the related post made earlier on above, one would just simply find out and simply wonder as to the actual reason why that, almost most of the times, clicking onto the particular weblink : http://scienceforums.com/topic/17385-antipsychotics-neuroleptics-for-mental-d... or most / any of the related weblinks, particularly the one named “Science Forums - Science for everyone” available on any of the internet search engines to access the specific Hypography Science Forums would nevertheless simply get one falsely and wrongly re-routed to the totally unrelated utility webpage of http://url4short.info/efab30d2 .
So, is it actually a subtly insidious tactic to hide something that is considered unfavourable, probably all the related ugly and totally unaccounted truths and incidents, from the compassionate & warm-hearted ones?
Neurological & Neuro-degenerative Disorders of Extrapyramidal Symptoms (EPS) Carried By Antipsychotics / Neuroleptics That Interfere With The Miscellaneous Nervous Systems & Synaptic Activities - Detailed Explanations
Well, in connection with the topic above and given the very much undisputed fact that restless eyelid twitching is one of the landmark neurological symptoms of Tardive Dyskinesia -ttp://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1858102#i / http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1858098#i , so please consider the excerpts below:
....I quite agree with you to a certain extent. Nevertheless, one should always bear in mind that such dopamine antagonistsmedications at the very same time also carry such undesirable and yet almost fully unavoidable disastrous side effects of Extrapyramidal symptoms (EPS - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extrapyramidal_symptoms) that include such serious neurological and neuro-degenerative disorders like akathisia, Tardive dyskinesia, neuroleptic malignant syndrome , acute dystonic reactions , akinesia and in the worst case scenario, pseudoparkinsonism, which might manifest disastrously and yet irreversibly onto anyone taking them particularly when these drugs are overly relied upon to the point of sheer abuse or maybe 'getting forced to be taken unnecessarily over the long-term" such as what you have mentioned as "and single cases like that are used as justification to drug lots of people who aren't really dangerous.",....
….As such given the serious neurological and neuro-degenerative complications inherent in these antipsychotics / neuroleptics (whilst one of their invariably inevitable medication effects would be such as the one mentioned by Kriminal99, saying “Before it was turning them into a zombie by cutting out part of their brain, now it is giving them drugs that do the same thing” , and so, should careful discretions & considerations be exercised at all in terms of determining the intakes of such powerful mind-altering drugs which are of dopamine antagonist nature….
….Whilst as mentioned by Kriminal99 who said that “and single cases like that are used as justification to drug lots of people who aren't really dangerous.”, and as such, getting all these lots of "people who aren't really dangerous" forcibly drugged by the related “medical personnel" totally peremptorily, indiscriminately and totally thoughtlessly without even considering the necessities of doing so at all, and in all cases & scenarios, simply do not even have the slightest knowledge about the potentially disastrous and all the irreversibly neurological & neuro-degenerative side effects carried by these dopamine antagonists medications as mentioned above,……
And I would like to add that all the normal bodily functions of human beings such as cognitive / thinking abilities, miscellaneous bodily movements etc are run and co-ordinated by neurons, brain cells etc through a variety of bodily neurological networks of miscellaneous nervous systems and the related synaptic activities. As such, please refer to the follows for the related details about the disastrous neurological & neuro-degenerative disorders brought upon by antipsychotics/neuroleptics :
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1696881#i (( Miscellaneous Nervous Systems, Neurotransmitters & Synaptic Activities )
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=2051549#i (Follow-up : Neurological & Neuro-degenerative Disorders of Extrapyramidal Symptoms (EPS) Carried By Antipsychotics / Neuroleptics That Interfere With The Miscellaneous Nervous Systems & Synaptic Activities - Further Explanations)
http://scienceforums.com/topic/17385-antipsychotics-neuroleptics-for-mental-d... (Neurological & Neuro-degenerative Disorders of Extrapyramidal Symptoms (EPS) Carried By Antipsychotics / Neuroleptics That Interfere With The Miscellaneous Nervous Systems & Synaptic Activities - Detailed Explanations)
Side Effects of Neurological & Neurodegenerative Disorders of Extrapyramidal Symptoms (EPS) Caused By Antipsychotics / Neuroleptics – Full Details
Well as mentioned in my previous post about such dopamine antagonists medications of antipsychotics & neuroleptics which invariably and inevitably all carry such seriously irreversible cognitively-damaging neurological and neurodegenerative side effects of Extrapyramidal symptoms (EPS) that include such disastrously while irreversibly serious, and yet cognitive-impairing and miscellaneous movements disorders as akinesia , Tardive dyskinesia , akathisia , acute dystonic reactions, neuroleptic malignant syndrome (NMS) , and in the worst case scenario, the seriously incurable neuro-degenerative disorder of pseudoparkinsonism such as the ones fully detailed through the weblinks below :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dopamine_antagonist (Dopamine antagonist)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extrapyramidal_symptoms (Extrapyramidal Symptoms)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akathisia (Akathisia)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tardive_dyskinesia (Tardive Dyskinesia)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroleptic_malignant_syndrome (Neuroleptic Malignant Syndrome)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dystonia (Dystonia)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akinesia (Akinesia)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudoparkinsonism (Parkinsonism)
then such dopamine antagonist medications, given their irreversibly disastrous EPS side effects, hence should not be taken totally thoughtlessly unaware, especially in terms of their dosages, durations of treatments, etc, or maybe even unnecessarily in certain cases over the long-term without any discretionary precautions being taken at all against the potential manifestations of any of their disastrous neurological / neurodegenerative side effects as mentioned above.
And in all cases, such dopamine antagonist medications simply should not be overly relied upon to the point of sheer abuses. In short, it is simply undisputed that antipsychotics / neuroleptics alone are simply not the perfect or the only one & single solution to any cognitive disorders.
Whilst the ones attending to and treating these cognitively impaired persons, at least by their natural humanely moral responsibilities & medically ethical obligations should all be fully aware of such issue so as to do whatever they can to safeguard them against all these seriously irreversible cognitively-damaging neurological and neurodegenerative side effects of Extrapyramidal symptoms (EPS) at least on both humanity & humanitarian grounds.
Afterall, naturally and reasonably the tasks & duties of these medical personnel would be, such as naturally & reasonably expected by anyone, to do whatever they can on a well-informed and fully skillful & thoughtful basis to make sure that the medical conditions of these people they treat and attend to get better and better gradually from time to time and simply not from bad to worse.
Next, whilst such antipsychotics / neuroleptics remain essential in treating the related cognitively impaired ones, reasonably anyone would believe that as long as well-informed knowledge about both the upsides and downsides of these medications are known, whereby they are being used accordingly & solely for curative and therapeutic purposes with all the necessary precautions taken against the potential manifestations of their unwanted side effects at the same time, then the expected advantages derived from these medications would most probably outweigh their unexpected and undesirable disadvantages.
Follow-up : Dire Effects of Medication-caused Extrapyramidal Symptoms (EPS)
Quote:
In regard to the quotation above, please refer to the excerpts below:
"Akathisia
Akathisia is closely related to dyskinesia. Akathisia is an extreme form of internal or external restlessness. It may be a complete inability to sit still, with an undeniable urge to be moving constantly. Or it may be an entirely inner feeling of jitteriness or shakiness. Akathisia can be exhausting and debilitating. In fact, severe akathisia may put an individual at risk for suicide, simply because it can be so unbearable.
Tardive akathisia refers to akathisia that occurs after long-term medication use, and may become permanent.
Dystonia
Dystonia is a muscle tension disorder involving very strong muscle contractions. These uncontrollable muscle contractions can cause unusual twisting of parts of the body, especially the neck. The condition can be extremely painful and can affect any part of the body, including the eyes. If it appears after several years of medication use, it is called "tardive dystonia," and may become permanent.
Other Extrapyramidal Symptoms
There are many more kinds of extrapyramidal symptoms. Sometimes, they resemble Parkinson's disease, with shuffling-type walking and unusual hand or finger movements. This is called "parkinsonism." Sometimes, the symptoms affect a person's ability to speak or may cause vocal tics (uncontrollable speech or other vocal sounds).
Dealing With Extrapyramidal Symptoms
It is important to know that there is help for extrapyramidal symptoms. Symptoms that appear early in treatment can be especially easy to deal with. Simply switching medications or adding a medication such as benztropine (Cogentin®) can be helpful. Since extrapyramidal symptoms can be distressing, it is important to let your healthcare provider know right away if you experience any of them.
Tardive symptoms (which appear late in treatment) may be relieved by stopping the antipsychotic medication or by adding medications to control the symptoms, although sometimes they become permanent. The best way to prevent them from becoming permanent is to let your healthcare provider know right away if you develop them.
Which are quoted from: http://schizophrenia.emedtv.com/extrapyramidal-symptoms/extrapyramidal-sympto..."
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"Treatment of Extrapyramidal symptoms:
•The treatment for extrapyramidal symptoms include lowering the dosage of the causative agent consumed by the person and also by using an alternative medication. as quoted from : http://www.symptomwiki.com/extrapyramidal-symptoms "
Next, about the other quotation above, please refer to the second excerpts as shown below:
"Extrapyramidal symptoms (EPSs), such as akathisia, dystonia, psuedoparkinsonism, and dyskinesia, are drug-induced side effects that can be problematic for persons who receive antipsychotic medications (APMs) or other dopamine-blocking agents. The clinical manifestations include a number of atypical involuntary muscle contractions that influence gait, movement, and posture. The symptoms can develop acutely, be delayed, or overlap making diagnosing a challenge. Preventive interventions include selective prescribing of APMs, close monitoring of uncharacteristic movements through the use of screening instruments, prompt management of symptoms, and thorough client education. Nurse practitioners who do not practice in psychiatric mental health nursing on a regular basis or who infrequently prescribe psychotropic medications must be cautious with these potential life-threatening symptoms. "
which is in turn quoted from :
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/561665
Full Details :
http://scienceforums.com/topic/17385-antipsychotics-neuroleptics-for-mental-d...
Quote[Akathisia
Akathisia is closely related to dyskinesia. Akathisia is an extreme form of internal or external restlessness. It may be a complete inability to sit still, with an undeniable urge to be moving constantly. Or it may be an entirely inner feeling of jitteriness or shakiness. Akathisia can be exhausting and debilitating. In fact, severe akathisia may put an individual at risk for suicide, simply because it can be so unbearable.
Tardive akathisia refers to akathisia that occurs after long-term medication use, and may become permanent.
Dystonia
Dystonia is a muscle tension disorder involving very strong muscle contractions. These uncontrollable muscle contractions can cause unusual twisting of parts of the body, especially the neck. The condition can be extremely painful and can affect any part of the body, including the eyes. If it appears after several years of medication use, it is called "tardive dystonia," and may become permanent./End Quote
Quote[Extrapyramidal symptoms (EPSs), such as akathisia, dystonia, psuedoparkinsonism, and dyskinesia, are drug-induced side effects that can be problematic for persons who receive antipsychotic medications (APMs) or other dopamine-blocking agents. The clinical manifestations include a number of atypical involuntary muscle contractions that influence gait, movement, and posture. The symptoms can develop acutely, be delayed, or overlap making diagnosing a challenge. Preventive interventions include selective prescribing of APMs, close monitoring of uncharacteristic movements through the use of screening instruments, prompt management of symptoms, and thorough client education. Nurse practitioners who do not practice in psychiatric mental health nursing on a regular basis or who infrequently prescribe psychotropic medications must be cautious with these potential life-threatening symptoms.
which is in turn quoted from : http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/561665 ]End Quote
Follow-up: Medicational Antipsychotics / neuroleptics-caused Extrapyramidal Symptoms (EPS)
In regard to the quotations above : Please refer to the Excerpts below :
“Neuroleptic-Induced Extrapyramidal Symptoms
This page was last updated on April 14, 2012
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Acute Dystonia
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Parkinsonism
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Akathisia
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Tardive Dyskinesia
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Neuroleptic Malignant Syndrome
Acute Dystonia
•"Long-lasting contraction or spasm of musculature develops secondary to the use of antipsychotic medication.
•Acute dystonia typically subsides spontaneously within hours after onset.
Common Dystonias
•Torticollis (lateral neck rotation)
•Retrocollis (neck extension)
•Limb torsion
•Forced jaw closing (trismus) or opening
•Tongue protrusion
•Opisthotonus (extension of head, neck, and paraspinal muscles in an arch)
•Oculogyric crisis (forceful eye deviation)……”as quoted from:
http://nursingplanet.com/psychopharmacology/extrapyramidal_symptoms.html -
Psychopharmacology Reviews
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“The extrapyramidal motor system is a neural network located in the brain that is involved in the coordination of movement. Extrapyramidal symptoms therefore are symptoms that manifest themselves in various movement disorders.
Extrapyramidal symptoms, often known as EPS is a neurological side effect of antipsychotic medication, also known as major tranquilizers. Antipsychotics are used to control psychoses such as schizophrenia but can also be used to treat behavioral disturbances associated with Alzheimer's disease.
Antipsychotic medications include chlorpromazine (Thorazine), thioridazine (Melleril) and haloperidol (Haldol).
Extrapyramidal symptoms can begin within a few hours, days or weeks or even years after commencing treatment with an antipsychotic medication.
Extrapyramidal symptoms are most common with the older conventional antipsychotics medications such as chlorpromazine (Thorazine), thioridazine (Melleril), haloperidol (Haldol). Symptoms of Extrapyramidal side effects
Common signs and symptoms include
• involuntary movements
• Tremors and rigidity
• Body restlessness
• Muscle contractions
• Mask like face
• Involuntary movement of the eye called oculogyric crisis.
• Drooling
• Shuffling gait
• Increased heart rate
• Delirium
Symptoms can be very distressing and frightening.”
as quoted from :
http://alzheimers.about.com/od/psychiatricmedications/a/extrapyramidal.htm
(Extrapyramidal symptoms (EPS) and Alzheimer's disease)
Other Related Information:
http://www.psychvisit.com/conditions/schizophrenia/2-symptoms-definition-schi...
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-are-the-different-extrapyramidal-symptoms.htm
Antipsychotics & Neuroleptics - Striking a Fine Balance for Such Double-edge Swords
Well, about schizophrenia disorders which are mostly treated with antipsychotics / neuroleptics medications, please consider the excerpts below:
{Positive Schizophrenia Symptoms Positive symptoms of the disorder are easy-to-spot behaviors not seen in healthy people and usually involve a loss of contact with reality. These positive symptoms can include:
• Hallucinations
• Delusions
• Thought disorder
• Disorders of movement.}
as quoted from :
http://schizophrenia.emedtv.com/schizophrenia/symptoms-of-schizophrenia.html
Next, in regard of the antipsychotics and neuroleptics meant for treatments of schizophrenia, please refer to the excerpts as follows:
{Extrapyramidal Symptoms People taking antipsychotic drugs are at risk of developing certain side effects known as extrapyramidal symptoms. These symptoms can include things such as repetitive, involuntary muscle movements (such as lip smacking) or an undeniable urge to be moving constantly. Extrapyramidal symptoms are usually divided into different categories. Dyskinesia’s are movement disorders, while dystonias are muscle tension disorders. "Tardive" symptoms are those that appear during long-term treatment (often after several years). Unlike earlier symptoms, tardive symptoms are more likely to be permanent even after the medication is stopped. Dyskinesias are movement disorders and can include any of a number of repetitive, involuntary, and purposeless body or facial movements. They can include:
• Tongue movements, such as "tongue thrusts" or "fly-catching" movements
• Lip smacking
• Finger movements
• Eye blinking
• Movements of the arms or legs.
An individual may or may not be aware of these movements. These movements are usually quite recognizable. Tardive dyskinesia is a dyskinesia that occurs after long-term treatment with an antipsychotic medication. Sometimes, this condition may become permanent.
Akathisia is closely related to dyskinesia. Akathisia is an extreme form of internal or external restlessness. It may be a complete inability to sit still, with an undeniable urge to be moving constantly. Or it may be an entirely inner feeling of jitteriness or shakiness. Akathisia can be exhausting and debilitating. In fact, severe akathisia may put an individual at risk for suicide, simply because it can be so unbearable.
Tardive akathisia refers to akathisia that occurs after long-term medication use, and may become permanent. Dystonia is a muscle tension disorder involving very strong muscle contractions. These uncontrollable muscle contractions can cause unusual twisting of parts of the body, especially the neck. The condition can be extremely painful and can affect any part of the body, including the eyes. If it appears after several years of medication use, it is called "tardive dystonia," and may become permanent. Other Extrapyramidal Symptoms There are many more kinds of extrapyramidal symptoms. Sometimes, they resemble Parkinson's disease, with shuffling-type walking and unusual hand or finger movements. This is called "parkinsonism." Sometimes, the symptoms affect a person's ability to speak or may cause vocal tics (uncontrollable speech or other vocal sounds).} as quoted from :
http://schizophrenia.emedtv.com/extrapyramidal-symptoms/extrapyramidal-sympto...
Next, it’s thus very obvious that the antipsychotics / neuroleptics medications, well, although they remain unquestionably essential in treating Schizophrenia, but nevertheless, the manifestations of their inherent neurological & neurodegenerative side effects as pointed out above,are however, overwhelmingly & potentially and undeniably far dire, if not, deadly than the Schizophrenia disorders itself.
And in all cases, for miscellaneous precautionary purposes, such dopamine antagonist medications (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dopamine_antagonist ) of antipsychotics / neuroleptics simply should not be overly relied or fed upon to the point of sheer abuses. In short, it is simply undisputed that antipsychotics / neuroleptics alone are simply not the perfect or the only one & single solution to any cognitive disorders.
Whilst as far as antipsychotics / neuroleptics medications are concerned, well, given the very undisputed fact that since most of them are of dopamine antagonist nature ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dopamine_antagonist ) with a variety of simply inevitable serious side effects ( http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=2055352#i ), there thus have been in fact a great variety of other far better medications with greater curative effects and far lesser harmful side effects getting invented from time to time nowadays by the modern medical science in order to overcome this problem. Thus, please refer to: http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1530443 /
http://www.webmd.com/schizophrenia/first-generation-antipsychotics-for-treati... -
Additional Information About Modern And Outdated Neurological-related Medications
As such, their treatments would definitely involve psychotherapies to complement the usages of such medications for holistic healings.
Next, since different types of non-medication psychotherapy treatments undeniably applies to different individuals needing psychiatric treatments given their respectively different temperaments, characters, traits, personalities etc. that simply vary from one another, then these duly certified professionals thus would need to be tactful and attentive to all the emotional & psychological needs and patterns of the ones they treat and attend to so as to effectively deliver genuinely & progressively better and better reliefs, cures and healings to these people.
Whilst generally & objectively, surely under whatsoever circumstances, anyone would certainly & positively expect any fully certified and licensed medical practitioners to simply ensure that the medical conditions of the ones or anyone they treat and attend to just get better and better from time to time rather than from bad to worse.
Next, objectively and reasonably , surely anyone would never expect and simply could never accept that for the related persons seeking treatments and getting treated, well, after getting treated and attended to by all the related fully certified & licensed professionals, well, rather than getting their original medical conditions gradually & progressively mitigated and improved better and better in a fully genuine way from time to time, as reasonably expected by anyone, well, just fully & on the contrary or the other way round, have their medical conditions ending up to be far worse off than the ones before getting treated, for example, by developing & contracting all these extra far worse neurological and neurodegenerative disorders of Extrapyramidal Symptoms, Dystonia, Neuroleptic Malignant Syndrome, Parkinsonism, Alzheimer's disease etc. as explained & elaborated through the points above.
Duly Licensed & Certified Professional Psychiatrists & Their Compulsory Medical Professionalism of Modern-day 21St Century - With Videos Included
Well, for the professional psychiatrists seeking fees from their patients for their services, well, rather than getting their original medical conditions improved as expected, but just simply on the other way round, turning their medical conditions progressively from bad to worse, then naturally these fees-paying patients simply have all the undisputed rights to take whatsoever remedial actions anytime or immediately to seek damages & compensations from these fully licensed & certified medical professionals, and in the worst case scenario, just have their medical practicing licenses getting fully revoked on the fully valid grounds of gross negligence, miscellaneous breaches of professional conducts, any medical malpractices, non-feasance, malfeasance, gross misrepresentations (outright lyings - such as this particular example - https://www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1671945#i )etc. by their respective professional medical bodies and associations which certify these licensed professionals in the first place.
Whilst the key point remains that, for such victims suffering ignorantly, gullibly & fully unknowingly from all these various permanently grievous & definitely irreversibly incapacitating bodily harms as the very results of the miscellaneous medical malpractices frivolously inflicted by the completely profit and-money-oriented medical personnel, well, could or would these victims just simply acquiesce & connive with such blatant injustices so as to just simply take such purposely inflicted misfortunes lying down & just simply "accept the realities" that nothing injustices or nothing wrong / wrongful have happened to them at all ?
Follow-up - https://www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2442428#i - Untold & Deliberately Concealed Disastrous Hazards & Side Effects of Dopamine Antagonist / Antipsychotics / Neuroleptics
Related illustration of the worst-case disastrous scenarios mentioned above
Note : Existing matching examples of the related disastrous scenarios described & explained above can be fully seen, witnessed, traced, observed, studied, examined & verified anywhere in the real life.
Next, please consider the quotation below about the other totally different scenario which is quoted from the other third-party under other different topic of other forum:
[QUOTE]i remember been on the employment training i moved this guys bag so they could put a video there he starts threatening me after they showed the video they have a discussion and he's on about been a spunk and sperm man, the guy looking back had personality issues, he left a trail ending up housed as a neighbour
I have to say my present ex girlfriend is hurting and lashing out at those around her and all the mental health lot do is come round and stick a needle in her, she's on a community treatment order, i feel angry about that but what can i do?[/QUOTE]
Well, in the case of any deliberately errant and yet recidivistic duly certified psychiatric professionals who are fully licensed and yet who simply wilfully refuse to take and bear whatever obligations and responsibilities at all for the health cares of the ones they treat and attend to, and yet could still always take the law into their own hands and then always can just simply get away totally scot-free from such malpractices, oh, well, objectively and reasonably surely anyone could never ever tolerate, acquiesce and condone at all such or the like-uncivilized scenario and phenomena, such as the ones which are nevertheless commonplace centuries ago, to happen , take place and recur in the modern-day 21st century of this highly-civilized world, communities and societies.
Next such “Professional practices” would just simply & inevitably cast smudge and smear from time to time onto the generally & supposedly highly regarded modern-day professional psychiatry profession of this 21st century by bringing nothing but merely more on more shames & humiliations to it from time to time.
However, oh well, about all these blatant and brazen abuses and of these related fully certified & licensed medical professionals, and well, if these errant deeds and actions just simply can fully be tolerated, accepted, acquiesced and totally condoned by, and simply mean nothing at all, to the related professional medical bodies & associations which duly and fully certify and license these medical professionals in the first place, then in such a scenario, there would hardly be anything that anyone can do.
Whilst the key issue here is that, well, about all these blatant and brazen abuses and of these related fully certified & licensed medical professionals, well are these deeds and actions really can be deemed and defined in the eyes & thoughts of anyone as really & fully medically ethical & professional in line with the officially & ubiquitously proclaimed & codified professionalism and medically ethical rules & regulations of the modern-day psychiatric profession such as the ones laid down by the related professional medical bodies & associations in the first place?
Whilst the key point to ponder over here is such that, well, about all the basic principles & sanctity of humanities and humanitarianisms which inseparably and indispensably involve health cares of the people, well, do they actually and really mean anything or totally nothing at all in reality to these professional medical bodies & associations?
Lastly, it is simply the very much undisputed fact that the health cares issues of every single individual are unquestionably a totally inseparable and indispensable part of humanity and humanitarianism afterall.
Whilst as a follow-up, please refer to the real-life examples as included below for the scenarios of such deliberate abuses as described above :
Related Videos & Other Details :
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-27229367 - Care Homes : CCTV 'could be considered', Secret filming by BBC Panorama shows some residents being taunted, roughly handled and one being slapped etc. (please refer to the relevant video clips)
http://www.bbc.com/news/health-27225318 - Care Homes : The known and the unknown
Whilst certainly and naturally, anyone would generally, objectively and reasonably agree and believe that the real-life cases of deliberate abuses as pointed out above is obviously and merely a small and tiny tip of the whole big iceberg of the topic elaborated in this and the prior post above.
as excerpted from:
(Please refer to post # 32)
https://www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1419521#i - Issues on Secret Filmings (In Any Forms) In Relation to the BBC Videoed Documentary Above
https://www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1422662#i - Follow-up : Other Ugly Truths About Cost-cutting Policy of The Public Psychiatric Medical Facility
https://www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2062091#i - Follow-up from the preceding article above - Antipsychotics & Neuroleptics - Striking a Fine Balance for Such Double-edge Swords
http://www.scienceforums.com/topic/30347-sometimes-cures-may-just-turn-out-to-be-worse-than-diseases-themselves/ -Follow-up from the preceding 2 articles above
http://www.psychvisit.com/conditions/schizophrenia/2-symptoms-definition-schizophrenia/2-04-extrapyramidal-symptoms-EPSE.html#dystonia - Extrapyramidal Symptoms - Various forms of abnormal body movements - Official Information In Relation to the prior 3 posts above
http://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-27217218/care-home-abuse-staff-sacked-or-suspended-over-poor-care - More Related Videos
Follow-up : Fees-seeking Psychiatrist & Their Fees-paying Patients – General & brief idea about psychotherapy
In regard of the prior post entitled above & about the quotation below excerpted from that post :
........Next, in terms of treatment methods, well, since professional psychiatric treatments undisputedly involved psychotherapy as well apart from medications alone, whilst different types of professional non-medication psychotherapy treatment undeniably applies to different fees-paying individuals seeking professional psychiatric treatments given their respectively different temperaments, characters, traits, personalities etc. that simply vary from one another, then of course the medical-fees-paying psychiatric patients seeking professional psychiatric treatments certainly do have all the rights to choose and to switch to other fees-receiving duly licensed & certified psychiatrists who are able to deliver much better, in this case, professional medication-and-psychotherapy treatment methods and cures that best suit , neatly-tailored to the specific curative and therapeutic needs of these fees-paying psychiatric patients simply for the sake of the respectively & individually different needs of their healthcare, medical welfare and well-beings based on the medical fees they pay.......
please refer to the follows at least for a brief and general idea about psychotherapy mentioned above :
There a numerous different approaches to psychotherapy that have been developed over the years that are based on different schools of thought and ways of understanding the roots of mental health problems and how people can be helped to change. In fact, there are now many hundreds of different types of psychotherapy that have been developed and promoted, and they vary in popularity and in the amount of researched evidence available to support their claims.
Some of the more established forms of psychotherapy in use today that are reviewed by PsychVisit include:
Behavioral Therapy: is used to treat a large number of mental health conditions, though it is often included as a feature of CBT. It sees symptoms as reflecting bad habits that have been learned and reinforced over the years, and tries to help clients unlearn these habits and replace them with more beneficial ways of behaving.
Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT): is used to treat a large number of mental health conditions. It focuses on clients' specific symptoms and tries to bring about change by challenging automatic thoughts, attitudes and beliefs that underlie the symptoms, encouraging clients to abandon behaviors that are promoting the symptoms, and teaching clients' specific techniques for managing the symptoms.
Psychodynamic Psychotherapy: is used to treat a large number of different mental health conditions. It seeks change by helping clients explore and understand how their unconscious drives and motivations, and their early life experiences, are at the root of their symptoms.
Interpersonal Therapy (IPT): was developed for treating Depression. It sees most cases of Depression as resulting from one of a few typical life crises, and tries to identify and address the life crisis that may have triggered a given person's Depressive Episode. It can also be used for Eating Disorders and Addictions. Interpersonal and Social Rhythm Therapy is a form of IPT that was developed for Bipolar Disorder.
Dialectical Behavioral Therapy (DBT): is used mainly for treating Borderline Personality Disorder, and incorporates principles of CBT........
as excerpted from : http://www.psychvisit.com/treatments/Psychotherapy/psychotherapy.html
Once again, I hope that the reading materials above will turn out to be useful to the intended readers.
Sometimes cures may just turn out to be worse than diseases themselves
In regard of the title above, please consider the following excerpts:
Extrapyramidal symptoms / Neuroleptic malignant syndrome
Extrapyramidal symptoms are forms of abnormal body movements that are caused by a blockade of normal dopamine functions in the brain. They occur most commonly as side-effects of certain medications that block dopamine functioning, such as the Typical Antipsychotics, less commonly the Atypical Antipsychotics, and very rarely by antidepressants [ref]. Extrapyramidal symptoms are often found in people with Schizophrenia and Bipolar Disorder who use these medications [ref]. However, these symptoms can also occur in people with Schizophrenia who have never taken any of these medications [ref].
The four main types of extrapyramidal symptoms are Parkinsonian Symptoms, Dystonia, Akathisia, and Tardive Dyskinesia. See here for strategies on how to manage these symptoms......
as quoted from:
Extrapyramidal Symptoms | PsychVisit
Additional information:
Botox Injections For Blepharospasm / Hemifacial Spasms - My Opinions - BrainMeta.com Forum (Botox Injections For Blepharospasm - Please refer to post 48 - Summary
Fees-seeking Psychiatrist & Their Fees-paying Patients – Everyone Has All the Undisputed Rights & Responsibilities On Any Grounds to Safeguard the Best Possible Interests of Their Personal Heath Cares & Well-beings (Parasites: RX Drugs Against Parasi - Fees-seeking Psychiatrist & Their Fees-paying Patients – Everyone Has All the Undisputed Rights & Responsibilities On Any Grounds to Safeguard the Best Possible Interests of Their Personal Heath Cares & Well-beings
Duly Licensed & Certified Professional Psychiatrists & Their Compulsory Medical Professionalism of Modern-day 21St Century (Parasites: RX Drugs Against Parasites) 5/13/2013 2064819 - Duly Licensed & Certified Professional Psychiatrists & Their Compulsory Medical Professionalism of Modern-day 21St Century
Follow-up : The Ugly Realities of The Modern Day Medical Professions
http://www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1671945#i - The Ugly Realities of The Modern Day Medical Professions
http://forum.neurologychannel.com/hc-forum/undiagnosed-conditions_peer-to-peer_f1226/non-stop-persistent-eyelid-twi_t41045.html?hilit=&start=50 - Deleted post due to commercially hurtful, detrimental, unfavorable or undesirable reasons.
Meanwhile, whilst most of the truly & highly effective charity causes and efforts, especially the ones meant to help the poor, needy & indigent ones, such as the ones described as so,"there were numerous of them who were not so well-to-do, and therefore they could not pay for such costly health accounts of glimpsing the health experts or to get Botox injections / surgical remedy to deal with their non-stop eyelid-twitching problems." as excerpted from this article https://www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1673772#i , well, such efforts will eventually just get wiped out outright purely for fully impersonal moneyed interests considerations especially when they turn out to be widely proven effective in helping the poor, needy & indigent ones whilst at the same time, thwarting the commercially profit-maximization goals & "efforts" of those "commercial, fully profit-oriented, purely monies-seeking doctors, pharmacist, pharmaceutical drug dealers, distributors etc.
And apart from the examples shown in the prior posts above, this is a fresh new example - https://healthlinks.net/forum
And Well, that's simply the very cruel & harsh realities of the world that we are living in now, especially for the poor, needy and indigent ones.
In regard of the prior posts above, particularly in terms of psychiatric drugs, especially the Typical Antipsychotics & Atypical Antipsychotics, such as the ones that I have mentioned in my very first post (please refer to their full details), they are invariably always subject to solely moneyed-interests abuses at the hands of numerous medical personnel worldwide who simply would not hesitate to exploit the ignorance, gullibility & credulity of their fees-paying patients who are from time to time just simply get treated as mere simpletons by these so-called fully-licensed & duly-accredited medical personnel.
Next, I truly mean no offenses but that's simply the prevailing way of the world that we are living now whereby the sanctity of human lives, especially the poor & needy ones can just be fully ignored outright like garbage or alternatively, human lives themselves, whilst in this case, the affordable, well-to-do & affluent ones, are simply fully exploitable, if not, expendable, purely for the sake of profit-making and revenue-maximization or other 100% profit-oriented medical pursuits of miscellaneous fully self-serving moneyed interests by medical personnel totally irrespective of the welfare, well-beings, if not the very lives of their fees-paying patients.
A very simple principle & Direct reality for the fees-paying patients
And well, all in all, it all would just come down eventually to the very simple principle & direct reality that fees-paying patients paying medical fees / monies to the fees-seeking doctors are undoubtedly to get themselves healed, treated & cured eventually rather than making things worse in the end.
And it's simply all common senses
Whilst in the case of psychiatrists, these medical fees / monies are certainly, definitely & simply not paid by the related fees-paying patients to the fees-seeking doctors for eventually getting EPS in the end -
Additional Information:
http://www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2063112#i -Fees-seeking Psychiatrist & Their Fees-paying Patients – Everyone Has All the Undisputed Rights & Responsibilities On Any Grounds to Safeguard the Best Possible Interests of Their Personal Heath Cares & Well-beings
http://www.psychvisit.com/treatments/Psychotherapy/psychotherapy.html - Psychotherapy