From the website http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?aid=544
In April [2005], Elvick pleaded guilty to one count each of forgery, extortion and engaging in a pattern of corrupt activity, and was sentenced to four years in an Ohio state penitentiary. The 68-year-old far-right extremist and former Aryan Nations associate was charged for aiding and abetting a ring of Redemption scammers based in Akron, Ohio, home to Right Way Law, a clearinghouse for the Redemption movement's pseudo-legal shenanigans.

The Redemption movement is founded upon Elvick's outer-limits postulation that for every birth certificate issued in the U.S. since the 1936 Social Security Act, the federal government deposits $630,000 in a hidden bank account linked to the newborn American. Redemptionists claim that by executing a series of arcane legal maneuvers, a person may entitle themselves to the $630,000 held in the name of the phantom entity created at their birth, and may then access these funds with "sight drafts" — better known to business owners and prosecutors as "bogus checks." Elvick also encourages Redemption enthusiasts to harass enemies with phony property liens and IRS reports designed to provoke audits.

During preliminary hearings, Elvick frustrated court officials by denying his identity, claiming the court had no jurisdiction over him or his straw man, and constantly interrupting with unfathomable questions about procedure. A judge ruled Elvick mentally unfit to stand trial and committed him to a correctional psychiatric facility, where he was diagnosed with an "unclassified mental disorder" and underwent nine months of treatment before facing trial.

A videotape of Roger Elvick explaining some of the core principles of early Redemption could well have been considered by the “authorities” as evidence of an extortion conspiracy. Is the one that identifies himself as Ron, the Ron Knutt that was later sentenced with Roger and others after being convicted of conspiracy. The other voices in that room, were they some of the others that would later spend time inside prison walls?
Roger Elvick: The Lost Tapes - Part 1
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8757346216985678105

Seems as though the patriot movement has had its fair share of bad apples. Many of whom, believing the federal income tax as being unconstitutional, had taken on the label of ‘tax protester’. Many have also been labeled by others within the movement itself as being ‘patriots for profit’. These are the ones that have taken countless numbers of other people for their money, only to lead them down the dead-end street that leads to a federal prison sentence. The above website is attempting to put Roger Elvick into this group of shysters that have run a number of scams on individuals over the years. Roger Elvick, however, does not appear to be one of these, imo.

Some other more righteous individuals have stood firm in their stand to shun the benefit privileges granted to U.S. citizens and to regain their rights as sovereign individuals regard Elvick as one that is held in high regard. A true patriot if there ever was one.

As from another site http://www.freedomdomain.com/Redemption/new_redemption.html it is said that Roger Elvick did not "invent" the commercial process or "Redemption" either. Roger Elvick expanded on a series of processes that were in development by a few very intelligent people scattered about the country. One in particular was Hartford Van Dyke, who developed and perfected a commercial lien process several years back. Elvick using Van Dyke’s teachings helped spawn the Montana Freeman movement. As is quoted by unknown author, “Roger Elvick is one of the most honest and intelligent men in the country, but unfortunately he is wrapped up so tight in Christianity, that religious zealousness gets the best of them. Religious zealousness got Shweitzer and Peterson, and Elvick, and many other noble and honest and brave men. I won't go so far as to say that I would stand by any of their moral or ethical principles, since I do not know any of them personally, but it appears to me, that the bad guys went after the good guys and used whatever means at their disposal they could use, to do away with them, and make it look as if the corporation [U.S.Corp.] was doing nothing wrong, it was "all the fault of the freemen themselves".

Over the past few years,Winston Shrout, an ex-tax protester (in his own words) has held seminars called Solutions in Commerce. And he’s been taking his teachings internationally to Canada and Australia as well. Winston doesn’t mention Roger Elvick by name but during the course of his lectures he will drop hints of his relation to the man in his style of delivery that includes a number of stories from his "tax protester" past.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4716570443969613391
"Anyway, what we are looking at is a BILL OF EXCHANGE.—Exchange, we going to get something from one place and put it in another place. In order to do that what must we have to have?—INTERMEDIARY to do the exchange. A Bill of Exchange has to be funded somehow. You have to find someway to fund a Bill of Exchange. Because what was happening earlier on was some of the guys were trying to write Bills of Exchange with nothing to back them. They were trying to write them on Treasury Accounts that did not exist. As a consequence, they got thrown right in the slammer for check kiting."

And the following is taken from a telephone conversation he had with another unknown individual.
http://endtheilluminaticonspiracy.wordpress.com/2009/01/01/winston-shrout-aud...
Winston: This has to do with DISCHARGE….Now, like I mentioned, I’m just going to go over the story again to set the theme…and that is, a friend called me up and said ‘Winston, I’d like to have you help me out down here, they got a criminal charge going, and I’m trying to do this and that with it, and what do you think about such and such? And I said, ‘Well, why don’t you go ahead and try the following”…I said, “I’d like to have you take a W-9 form down to the courthouse and give it to all the parties concerned.”
And he kind of hesitated for about 3 seconds, and then he realized what I was saying, and then he broke out laughing and said, “Yeah, that’s right.”
And so anyway, so she did, she took these W-9 Forms down to the court and gave one to the Judge, one to the attorney, and I think, maybe to the bailiff. I think she handed one out to just about everybody she could find.

Anyways, as a result of it, nobody was willing to touch that case. They basically don’t want to go to jail. They don’t want to touch the case, because they don’t want to have to demonstrate… you know… their crime that they had been doing. So anyway, the crime that was based on the following, and that is, like some one, personally, like myself, probably… or some, maybe even at birth, there was an application for a benefit privilege known as social security insurance. Now social security insurance is in fact the ultimate public hazard insurance. It’s the thing that everything else is underwriting. Again, it’s the social security…that creates, I mean it’s a limited liability under the social security that creates income tax. This is an important concept.
In any event, when it can be demonstrated that some man or woman has a social security number, in other words, that they are a participant in the social security insurance program, and they have the benefit privilege of DISCHARGE. Once it is demonstrated that they already have a REMEDY, then would it be logical to say that they ask for another REMEDY?—No! They couldn’t do that. And so what was demonstrated is that they already have a benefit privilege to DISCHARGE, then, all of a sudden, they can’t be asking you, or me, for something else.
And so, that is pretty much the way that I see it, that closed that thing up, is that they did not want to have to deal with the tax issues. Now if you combine a W-9, if you combine that with a 1099OID and 1099A, you got a knock out there. You got a knock out punch that can’t come back.

Other voice on the line: [a 1099OID, a 1099A and what else?]

WINSTON: A W-9.
Back in the old days, when I first got all into this Commercial Redemption, there had been created some ‘Accepted for Value’ letters that was used. Now I am not exactly sure who created them, but whoever did obviously understood these principles. Because in our Acceptance for Value letter that we’ve sent out, the first one would say, ‘Well, we received your offer but you didn’t send us a check, or a replevin bond.’ And then down towards the end of the letter we’d simply say… ‘And please fill out this W-9’… of course, we’d always send a W-9 back to them, you know. We always said, ‘Fill out this W-9 Form and send it back to us…” And also we’d say, “…please fill out and send us back our copy of the 1099OID.’

WINSTON (continues): Now of all the ‘Acceptances’ that I ever did, or saw anybody else do, we never did receive back a W-9, nor did we get back our copy of the 1099OID. Now about, oh, three or four years ago, when Roger was plunking around with some of this stuff, he finally figured out how to make that 1099OID sing …like a canary. And when he first started doing some of this stuff, he asked us to please don’t send this around the countryside until we get a chance to see the results of it. And as a result by some of the things that were started by Roger and Ron and Jim and some of the other guys, some of all you know who I am talking about. As a result of their labors, all of a sudden we start seeing the success of the 1099OID front.

[Other voice on line: “not only their labors but their sacrifices they made to bring us to this point…]

WINSTON: That’s correct. And because of their willingness to share, now they didn’t have to share it with us… see, but they did share it, and he asked those of us that we kind of getting this information, you know… to please don’t send this out until we get a chance to see that it won’t harm anybody.

So after a while, it became obvious that its not going to harm anybody… then even at that juncture, I didn’t really want to press the issue because I basically didn’t want to get into the tax consultant business. But in any event, once we proved what we say, we’ve seen the results of this, we’ve seen judges excuse themselves, we’ve seen attorneys, we’ve seen people run away from the W-9 form, we’ve seen all this stuff happen. I mean it is not conjecture on our part. And we’ve seen checks come from the IRS for mortgages. We’ve seen all this stuff happen. And so its not conjecture anymore. In fact, it is happening. We intend for it to continue to happen. We hope the people will not misuse the system but would properly use it. Hell, we can solve a whole lot of problems for people by doing this system.

So, there is no reason, even as perverted and upside down this stupid mortgage system is, with all the foreclosures and all the crap that is going on. Properly utilized, this 1099OID technology can successfully be used to get rid of these fraudulent mortgages and stuff. What I didn’t tell to you, and people who think ahead a little bit can see this, and that is once you use the 1099OID to extinguish a mortgage, and you go back and actually pay money to the bank and zero out the mortgage, now you can claim that cash receipt on another 1099OID, get your money back.—[other voice: Yet, again?] Heh, heh, I am only going to say that once. Because if you heard that and understand it, then go forward and do what you will. I mean, but I think I am not going to repeat that.

[Other voice: ‘Alright, did you catch the Red Sox game last night? Alright we’ve got 2 minutes, go ahead and wrap us up…’ ]

WINSTON: Well, just I would say that we have spent a great deal of time endeavoring to understand how the system works. We have spent a great deal of time, you know, getting down into the trenches, fighting , kicking and flailing & carrying on… trying to figure out how things work… and it appears that through the labor of some, with a little bit of experimentation, and so forth… that I think we have come up with the answers that the people have been looking for, so they can get their lives straightened out and get on down the road. And for crying out loud… I would hope, for the conversation that’s been had here that the people, you know has been least, by having the idea to not be fighting around with the IRS. The IRS, properly utilized, can be a great benefit to people. So probably about, maybe, two or three years ago, when I finally getting these things straightened around in my own mind, I mean years ago I was labeled as a “tax protester”, heh, heh. But anyway, once I started taking a true look at what was being done, then I realized all of a sudden, ‘Hey, look it here, look what good can be done by successfully using the IRS. Because we can use the IRS to accomplish a lot of good things, which otherwise not be accomplished, that are being accomplished.
I am not blowing smoke!

[Other voice on the line: You always said that they [IRS] were the best debt collector there ever was.]

WINSTON: The best I know of…

With the many 'patriots for profit' that have come out of the woodwork over the years, time will only tell whether the philosophy and tactics propounded by Winston Shrout can hold the heavy weight of water that the IRS can pour over people they target. He has claimed in his seminars that the group he works with have slammed the IRS of this country with a heavy hit of LIQUIDATION (4 billion) which has started to turn the tide on the way this corporate government agency carries on the tactics they have used to run their business. They are even sending out checks these days to those that they send 'presentments' to assist them with their Remedy.

The IRS, he candidly remarks, is his best friend as he uses them to go after judges, law enforcement agents and corporate banker elites when these entities do not prove to being doing the right thing according to the oaths of office that they have taken.

Winston says he owes much to the others that have gone before him, people like Roger Elvick. "And a lot of this technology that has been put out in these seminars come from the guys inside. One thing is that they got a lot more free time than I have. And so they can research and tell me about some things I don’t know about. I would drive to see some of these guys on a Sunday in prison, we’d sit there for hours and develop this technology, see ‘em the next day and then come home. And so I put a lot of miles in and talked to a lot of guys, written a lot of letters to guys in the joint. And like I’ve said, I am just a conglomeration of a whole lot of people. This is not my technology. It is what I have learned from others, with my twist, is what it amounts to." -Excerpted from Kelowna BC seminar Disc #7 (2008) at 40th minute.