Hi dwc928s4,

Your question: Moreless, can you comment on this, it was posted on another site, and knowing that you no alot about this, i was wondering if you would comment. I have been trying to kill candida by using your PH raising method, but know i am thinking i am wasting my time.

Answer: My Complete answer may be found at the end of this post, but I shall make some Clarifications of these Deceptions! End.

There is a very persistent myth that Candida albicans cannot survive a high (alkaline) pH.

Answer: The Key to understanding the Truth here is in the word --Survive-- ! When one changes the wording from Survive to that of being in Dormacy to comming out of Dormacy and doing it's job to again going into Dormacy, then one may gain a Better understanding? Candida's purpose is to grow to raise the pH, but when the pH is raised enough with the needed Alkaline Minerals, then the Candida goes Dormant and Ceases to exist as a problem ! End.

The fact is that C. albicans can survive very acid to extremely alkaline pH.

Answer: This I am in agreement with as the word Survive is being used ! End.

The primary difference is the form it takes on dependent on the pH. At a low (acidic) pH C. albicans remains in a less pathogenic yeast form, and its growth is inhibited. When C. albicans is exposed to a high (alkaline) pH it promotes the formation of its hyphal growth.

Answer: The Deception presented here may be that of the wording high (Alkaline) pH, for what is this High Alkaline pH made up of????????????

As I have repeatedly stated one may raise their pH with Baking Soda, but shall still remain Sick and Diseased !

WHY may this be so?

Could it be that our body must have the Complete supply of Electro-magnetic Energy released from --ALL-- the needed Alkaline Minerals?

How is Baking Soda going to provide --ALL-- these other needed Releases of Electro-magnetic Energy?????????

Or what if our pH was High because of too much Aluminum???????????? End.

This hyphal growth allows C. albicans to not only become pathogenic, but also to allow it to invade deep in to tissues and to promote organ damage. This hyphal growth is inhibited at an acidic pH of 4 or below reducing tissue invasion and damage. I have compiled some research from non-commercial sites to prove these facts. The growth of C. albicans in an alkaline environment, as well as an acidic environment in a pH range of 2 to 10:

http://ec.asm.org/cgi/content/full/5/9/1550




http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=232444




http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15189995?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2....




http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10629054?ordinalpos=11&itool=EntrezSystem2...




http://www.springerlink.com/content/06crgmq4x3nj2820/




"In vitro, C. albicans can thrive over a remarkably wide range of extracellular pH, at pH values of 2-10 (Odds 1988)". They also point out that alkalinity promotes hyphal growth of C. albicans.

http://www.springerlink.com/content/j5v6h012235h3576/




"Upon response to environmental stimuli C. albicans can switch between yeast-like and filamentous, hyphal growth. This allows C. albicans to generate niche specific responses, form biofilms, adhere, and invade epithelial tissues. "

It is this switch to the hyphal growth, from alkalinity, that allows C. albicans to become pathogenic by more readily invading tissues:

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=97632




http://www.cell.com/current-biology/abstract/S0960-9822(06)00252-1




Hyphal growth has been shown to be inhibited at the acidic pH of 4 in all strains of C. albicans showing that an acidic pH helps to prevent C. albicans from being pathogenic. An alkaline pH on the other hand promotes pathnogenesis of C. albicans as it promotes hyphal growth. The article from the following link points out what I have been trying to explain to people for decades. Stomach acid helps to control pathogen growth, including Candida. The same applies to the skin, which is normally slightly on the acidic side. When the pH is raised to the alkaline side candidiasis of the skin is promoted.

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1770313




"In tissue samples from mucosal surfaces with a non-acidic pH, such as the tongue, oesophagus, intestine, and most skin areas, filamentous forms of C albicans predominated, and most of them exhibited both 1H4 immunostaining and an invasive phenotype (fig 3A ). In internal organs having a non-acidic pH (liver, lung, heart, and thyroid) from patients with systemic candidiasis, variable numbers of yeast cells were found, together with hyphae or pseudohyphae in virtually all cases. In these tissues, both yeast and filamentous forms showed strong 1H4 immunoreactivity (fig 3B , C). In contrast, in those tissues with an acidic pH, such as the stomach and collecting ducts of the kidney, the predominant form of C albicans was the blastospore (yeast). Interestingly, in these locations yeast cells essentially showed no 1H4 immunoreactivity (fig 3D , E). However, when adjacent tissue invasion was present, hyphae or pseudohyphae were the predominant form."

"The ability to undergo transition from the yeast to the hyphal form appears to be crucial in the pathogenesis of invasive candidiasis. 4– 6 Both yeast cells and hyphae are found in infected tissues and contribute to pathogenesis. Yeast cells are better suited for rapid haematogenous dissemination, but together with hyphal elements they are also capable of breaching epithelial and endothelial barriers to cause extensive organ damage. 4 During the infectious process, yeast cells and hyphae may encounter different microenvironments within the host. At acidic pH, C albicans grows mostly in the yeast form; at an alkaline pH, it grows primarily in the filamentous form. 2, 6, 7 Gastric acid provides an effective barrier to most microorganisms (normal gastric pH values are 1–3.5). In contrast, achlorhydria and the use of H2 antagonists, which raise gastric pH, have been found to be associated with a higher proportion of invasive gastric candidiasis. 17 Similarly, although the skin is relatively inhospitable to fungal growth, 18 the experimental increase of skin surface pH yields more pronounced cutaneous candidiasis in human volunteers. 19"


Answer: Again we need to ask ourself what is making the pH Acidic or Alkaline?

Could Many of these researchers have ignored this Fact?

Here is the rest of the answer:

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1385783#i


Cause and Effect !

As usual not everything may be as it may 1st seem to be !

Smile Tis your choice.

Hi dwc928s4,

I feel Hveragerthi means well with what he believes?

If Hveragerthi's ideas are so correct as he Claims, then WHY cannot we find Many Success Testimonials of folks who have been Healed with his ideas??????

Could it be his ideas contain too much Deception?

Could it be that he has been caught up in his own Deception?

The Good Book does say to beware of the many who will come in his name to Deceive many !

Now to make it Clear, I believe he has many Good ideas about Health, but I also believe he has too much Deception that has too much False info ! Could this be WHY we do not find Many Success Testimonials of those following his ideas?

Whereas this forum has More Success Testimonials than any other forum on curezone that is not selling products !

This may be seen by reviewing the Many Success Testimonials found "Following" this Link:

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1028760#i


There are also Many more Success Testimonials I need to place with this list as I make time for it !

Cause and Effect !

Choose who and what you wish to follow !

Success or just Big words that Fail to bring Many Success Testimonials !

Kinda like many of todays Politicians who promise the Moon, but Fail to Deliever !

Edit: Seek the Truth and learn to apply it properly and the Truth shall set us Free ! Folks with Candida are in Salvery yet ! Could this mean they have failed to learn and apply the Truth?

Choose Life or Death this Day !

Smile Tis your choice.