Salt and weight gain 
mouseclick
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I rarely eat salt these days, but was at a friends house last night and accepted some rather salty home made vegetable soup.
Next morning, got up, despite what is normally a steady weight loss I was 2 pounds heavier. Googled it, and found consistent reports that it was the salt http://www.google.com/search?q=salt+weight+gain
It's no major disaster, it's not fat and it should come off soon, but this may be of interest for those people who wonder why they put on weight or get other peculiar blips on their scale.
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- Re: Salt and weight gain Mighty.Sun.Tzu
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This is a reply to # 1,383,867Indeed so Mouseclick.
Sodium loss is why we lose so much "extra" weight in a fast and the return of this sodium is why we gain so much of that weight back within a couple weeks.
As well, excess sodium causes us to retain excess water. A person with excess sodium in their system who fasts that away and in turn loses their excess water weight (in extreme cases there could be a ton of this) can keep the excess off by maintaining normal, healthy sodium levels. This in turn will lower blood pressure, but that's another story for another day.
But most of us in a fast will dip below our normal sodium levels, drop a good amount of water weight from this and get the water back when our sodium returns to normal.
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- Re: Salt and weight gain mouseclick
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,383,878Interesting, the thought that people have constantly elevated water levels when eating a diet containing salt.
Because I don't eat salt now, this means that my weight gain after a fast will be less. However it also means my weight loss during a fast will not be so great in the first few days either.
I may put that to the test one day, though no immediate plans to do so.- Re: Salt and weight gain Mighty.Sun.Tzu
15 y
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This is a reply to # 1,383,893Hi Mouseclick,
Some pertinent exerps about sodium and it's relationship to water in our bodies out of the wikipedia arcicle.
"Thus, when a powerful diuretic drug is given which causes the kidneys to excrete sodium, the effect is accompanied by an excretion of body water (water loss accompanies sodium loss)."
Since we excrete sodium in a fast, it follows that we excrete body water as well.
Nobody here really believes we are burning 20 pounds of fat on a 7 day water fast, right?
"It (sodium) is also a component of many minerals, and it is an essential element for animal life."
Sodium serves a vital purpose within our bodies.
"The human requirement for sodium in the diet is about 500 mg per day, which is typically less than a tenth as much as many diets "seasoned to taste." Most people consume far more sodium than is physiologically needed."
"... However, low sodium intake may lead to sodium deficiency."
Thus there are healthy levels of sodium and the possibility for having too much or too little in our diets. I am not certain about this (will have to research it further or hear from Chrisb1), but i believe with a fair amount of intuitive confidence as well as considerable experience with fasting and weight log keeping, that in a fast, we dip to below normal/optimal levels of sodium (and our accompanying water level dips to below normal)... and when we return to normal eating, we return to normal levels of sodium and water content in our bodies. We don't have to eat "too much" sodium to regain our healthy water levels.
... and if we return to eating which includes too much sodium, we will gain back our normal water levels and then be saddled with "excess water retention" on top of it.
- Re: Salt and weight gain chrisb1
15 y
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This is a reply to # 1,383,978Mighty.Sun.Tzu,
yes, I am in agreement with both of your posts and where sodium loss does occur on a water-fast as with any other mineral; but the body has a habit of "clinging-on" to these natural elements for as long as possible in the prevention of deficiencies.................even with todays nutrient-deficient diets.
However, although salt (as an example) is linked to water-retention it is not the experience of Hygienists that fasters become dehydrated with the excess loss of sodium: the excess loss of sodium that they (and I) would refer to, is the inorganic sodium--chloride which only serves to accumulate within the body tissues as being a toxin and non-bioavailable to the body.
This is totally unlike organic sodium found in fruit and vegetables where the plant processes the sodium from the soil into an organic and bio-available form.
It is mainly sodium chloride then that is the main cause of this water-retention.
This is the viewpoint of Paul Bragg, Dr Shelton, all Hygienists, and todays notable protagonist of avoiding the addition of salt to the diet...........Dr Joel Fuhrman MD...............
http://www.drfuhrman.com/faq/question.aspx?sid=16&qindex=1
I think this comment of yours is largely correct...........
"in a fast, we dip to below normal/optimal levels of sodium (and our accompanying water level dips to below normal)... and when we return to normal eating, we return to normal levels of sodium and water content in our bodies. We don't have to eat "too much" sodium to regain our healthy water levels.
... and if we return to eating which includes too much sodium, we will gain back our normal water levels and then be saddled with "excess water retention" on top of it".
But I would like to add that it is not advisable (according to these authorities), to add any "salt" to the diet, just so long as it is a "nutrient-dense" one.
Regards
Chrisb1.
- Re: Salt and weight gain vic091
11 y
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This is a reply to # 1,384,016Dear Mr. chrisb1,
I have read a lot of your post and I understand that you have a lot of experience with water fasting. Can you please help me regarding the below
I have developed 3 time acute pacriatites and desided to do a water fast. after 2 days I started feeling really tired and pain , so went to the doctor. After 2 day fast my blood glucose level droped to 50 and sodium droped to 128 ( it should be 138). The doctor told me that if sodim dropes to 120 it can cause sizures. So at the moment I don't know what to do interms of my pancreatites ( the fasting has helped to reduce the pain but it is still there). I still would like to continue fast but afrade of possible sizures due to the low sodium level. As far as glucose I read that the ketosis will start after 48 hrs and provide glucose.
Thank you.
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- Re: Salt and weight gain Mighty.Sun.Tzu
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