> I really havce been enjoying your site since I found it a couple weeks ago.
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> I just passed a very painful kidney stone and I'm curious about coffie. A book I have, Prescription for Nutritional healing, recommended coffie as a preventative for Kidney Stones, and two gentlemen at work said the same thing. However, my nurse girlfriend and her fellow students said they get tested on the fact that coffie is a cause of kidney stones. What gives with the discrepancy.
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> Thanks,
> Fred
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> P.S. regarding the web site, and not that I'm snoody, but a simple spell checker would cure your site of it's large number of missspelled words and bad grammar. Folk tend to discredit the value of the information if the grammar and spelling is incorrect. Perhaps some of your readers are editors and could help.





Fred,

Coffee is made from the coffee bean. Depending on the type of bean, where it is grown and the ground water chemistry, the amount of oxalate in the bean and in the coffee eventually made from it can vary. Oxalate is a main ingredient in the kidney stones for many people. Excess intake of high oxalate foods can increase the risk for stones and offset the extra fluid from the beverage. Other high oxalate foods include chocolate, tea, green leafy vegetables and nuts. Of course, if your urinary oxalate level is normal, then there would be little benefit in restricting these foods.

Other than water, the best nutritional advice for stone formers is to moderate their intake of protein and salt, avoid large amounts of the high oxalate foods listed above, and increase their citrate intake. Citrus fruits have high citrate levels. Lemonade made from real lemon juice is also recommended due to its high citrate level.

Interestingly, we do not recommend restricting calcium intake in most stone formers due to recent studies suggesting that very low calcium intake patients actually get more stones than those on a high calcium diet. It seems that too little calcium in the diet causes an increase in oxalate absorption. The result is a net increase in stone risk if your diet is too deficient in calcium; just the opposite of what common sense would seem to suggest.

Stephen W. Leslie, MD

Assistant Clinical Professor
Dept. of Urology
Medical College of Ohio

Founder and Medical Director
Lorain kidney stone Research Center
Lorain, Ohio

Author: "The kidney stones Handbook", a patient's guide to kidney stones. [www.kidneystonesbook.net]

Hi Fred,

Please don't let the spelling mistakes irritates you. For the love
of Natural Healing - the whole world is here and you cannot expect
everyone to be as good in the English Language as you yourself are.
Spelling checker will correct the spelling but not the grammer
therefore will ever irritate the reader (should she/he having
agendas for such things). All the same Fred - lets correct our
Health first and in Harmony everything is flawless. This site even
offered to heal Body-Mind-Spirit which is critical in balancing
our Wellbeing. Understanding and compassion are very much needed
commodities in our world today!

Kidney is a double organ - and according to some Astrologers, if
this part of our organ is alarming us, we could even trace the
problems back to "Relationship or Relating". I don't know for sure
but Astrology always intrigues me.

Excuse me for asking because I am bit confused with the word
"coffie". Do you mean the beverage "Coffee"? If coffee is what
you meant - for a healthy kidney, there should not be any problem
so long that we don't overdo it. But once stones are formed I
feel the whole diet regiment should take on a different form.

I also have heard both sides of the story - "coffee being preventive
to kidney stones" but according to the National Kidney and Urologic
Diseases Foundation, the best ways to avoid getting kidney stones
is the following:

Drink more water -- up to 12 full glasses of
water a day can help to flush away the
substances that form stones in the kidneys.
Ginger ale, lemon-lime sodas, and fruit juices
are acceptable, but WATER is BEST!

Another perspective:
The February 1, 1996 issue of the American Journal of Epidemiology
(Volume 143, Number 3, pages 240-7) contains a paper entitled
"Prospective Study of Beverage Use and the Risk of Kidney Stones."
These new findings suggest that tea and coffee may actually REDUCE
the chances of forming a kidney stone, while apple and grapefruit
juice may increase the risk of forming a kidney stone. If you're a
stone former and a tea or coffee drinker and don't want to give up
the habit, talk to your doctor about this study. Still a culprit:
cola beverages. Because of their high Sugar content, they tend to
increase calcium excretion, increasing your risk.

But for myself I found the most digestable explaination to all our
dis-eases including this one, is from Dr. Clark's book "Cure for
All Diseases". Coffee and Tea has been there for hundreds if not
thousands of years but why so many of us today has Kidney Stones,
Gall Bladder Stones and are all stuffed up, with organs refusing
to function properly? Why the discrepancies - I am afraid you have
to research more for yourself but I highly recommend you read
Dr. Clark's contraversial findings! She brought a mind bursting
message to our polluted world:-(

Enjoy your further reading on this wonderful website. There is
soooooooo much of good information:-)

Regards
Rahi

p/ I don't mean to discredit your good intention but first
and foremost people need help and sometimes they can't even
write themselves. The main thing is that we got the message through.
(Please excuse my imperfect English - it is not my mother tongue!)



> I really havce been enjoying your site since I found it a couple weeks ago.
>
> I just passed a very painful kidney stone and I'm curious about coffie. A book I have, Prescription for Nutritional healing, recommended coffie as a preventative for Kidney Stones, and two gentlemen at work said the same thing. However, my nurse girlfriend and her fellow students said they get tested on the fact that coffie is a cause of kidney stones. What gives with the discrepancy.
>
> Thanks,
> Fred
>
> P.S. regarding the web site, and not that I'm snoody, but a simple spell checker would cure your site of it's large number of missspelled words and bad grammar. Folk tend to discredit the value of the information if the grammar and spelling is incorrect. Perhaps some of your readers are editors and could help.
>

"Coffee" is the correct spelling for the java drink.
But I do agree that spelling and grammar as well as appropriate sentence structure are sadly lacking on much of the internet. Sometimes the meaning is misconstrued due to poor writing skills. But thank you for all the great cleansing info. I've been reading the entries on this site for two days, 2-3 hours a day. Thanks to those who post.