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Many folks seem to be unable to understand what may Cause Low Stomach Acids in the 1st place?
Oh ! You mean something or some organ of the body has the job of producing stomach acids?
Could this mean that if this Organ was Sick and Diseased, that just maybe the stomach may not get the stomach Acids when it needs them?
What could Cause this Organ to be Unable to produce the needed Stomach Acids?
Could it be a shortage of Calcium and other needed Alkaline Minerals?
Many folks may have Poor Digestion because of Low Stomach Acids?
Some circles of folks jump up and down and say these folks should not take any Calcium like Calcium Hydroxide that may Neutralize the already Low Stomach Acids?
What is one to believe?
What is one to do?
What is the Truth?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
Do we Seek Evidence that agrees with what we believe is true?
Or do we Seek Evidence that may be the Truth and help Solve our problem of Low Stomach Acids?
For if we just want info that agrees with our Deception, we may stay Sick and Diseased with Stomach problems of Low Stomach Acid production !
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
Choices!!! Choices!!!!!!!!
For those who are Seeking the Truth of what is needed to know to Solve their problem of Low Stomach Acids, you may continue to read, all others should take the Exit door, --NOW-- !
We need to consider what the body 1st needs to have Good Stomach Acid production abilities upon demand ! For if the Organs of our body that Manufacture our Stomach Acids are Sick and Diseased, then How do we expect them to be able to do their job when needed?
Oh? You mean there are Different organs of our body that manufacture these Acids?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
And if these Organs are Sick and Diseased, that they may not be able to do their job?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
Could it be that if these Organs have become too Acidic, that they have Lost their ability to be Buffered from the very Acids they are supposed to produce, thus they may be Self-Destructing?
Surely it could not be so?
Could it be?
Now just what may these Organs need to be able to Produce Stomach Acids and be Buffered etc?
Who has heard of Calcium?
Ya don't say?
When our different Organs of our body become short of needed Calcium along with the other needed Alkaline Minerals they may become too Acidic and start their
road to Death and Decay !
Surely it could not be so Simple?
Could it be?
So, if the Very Organs of our body that help Produce the needed Stomach Acids are short of Calcium and other Alkaline Minerals and some Claim we should not take any Calcium because it may Neutralize what Little stoamch Acids we have, just how are these Sick and Diseased Organs going to get their needed Calcium to Heal and do the job they
are supposed to do???????????????????????
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
As usual not everything may be as it may 1st seem to be !
When we have folks whom may have become Educated beyond their own Intelligence telling us to not take Calcium when we have Low stomach Acid production, maybe they forgot about the Poor Sick organs needing Extra calcium that are involved in this Acid production?
The whole problem may be that these folks may be missing the Greater overall Picture ?
What may this Bigger Picture be ?
It is "NOT" a question of just trying to Neutralize the Acids in the Stomach as they seem to be concerned about !
But, a Question of learning to eat and drink foods, which promote a Digestive system, which may produce Greater amounts of Acids, upon demand by the Digestive system, when it needs more Acids to be able to Properly Digest foods , which are eaten that contain foods needing a Greater amount of Acids to be able to Digest these foods !
Then when the body does not have this need, to have these Organs of the body to "STOP" producing these extra Digestive Acids, so as to not Cause Acid Reflux etc
from the Digestive system !
Because the "BIGGER" Picture is about having the needed Acids to React with the foods, which have more Alkaline Minerals that need Acids to Cause the Release of
needed Electro-magnetic Energy from these Alkaline Minerals, to then Power our bodys !
It is "ALL" about the Acid Alkaline pH Balancing Principles, of which "Everything" in the Entire Universe may be Controlled by !
Since "Everything" in the Entire Universe may be Controlled by this, then is it hard to see that just maybe this includes "our" Digestive system ?
As usual not everything may be as it may first seem to be !
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What are Acids anyway?
What makes an Acid more powerful or more Acidic ?
Does it have anything to do with the amount of Hydrogen bound with the type of Acid which we may be talking about?
So, "IF" this is the case, then it may mean that the organ of the body which produces these Acids may "ONLY" produce Acids in relationship to what Basic Elements or may we say foods which are available to this organ of the body !
In other words "IF" this organ needs to produce HCL, which is Hydrochloric Acid, then it must have some Chloride available and some Hydrogen available so that it
may combine these in the correct ratios so that it may produce the strength of this acid which may be needed!
So, is it any surprise when our body may be Lacking in the chloride salt from a Natural food source or Lack of eating any Salt which may provide the needed ingredients, that maybe this organ of the body may provide the stomach what
strength of this Acid it may need ?
Now, the "More' important aspect of this whole idea may be in those other Alkaline Minerals which this organ of the body must have in order to be able to produce and Handle this Acid !
What do I mean by this ?
"IF" this organ is going to be able to produce and deliver this Acid to the stomach, then this organ "MUST" have the ability to protect it's self from these very same Acids, so that this organ does not Destroy it's self with these Acids which it is producing !
In other words this organ must be made of some kind of substance or material which is not eaten up or destroyed by the Acid it's self !
So, how could this be ?
What kind of substance could this organ need to be made of?
Is it possible that certain Alkaline Minerals may be mixed together and bound together to form a substance which is "NOT" destroyed by these Acids ?
Consider the case of what we may store Acids in so that they are contained and do no damage to the container?
What different types of containers may Buffer the effects of different Acids ?
Glass ?
Plastics ?
Metals ?
Alloys ?
Generally Glass is a very Good container to store Acid in and some types of Plastic and some types of Alloy Metals !
So, just what are each of these made of so as to provide protection from the different kinds of Acids ?
Glass contains mainly different kinds of Rock Minerals !
Plastics also contain different Minerals, but mostly they may contain Hydro-carbons !
Alloys such as Stainless steel contain different Alkaline Minerals which make the different alloys of stainless steel resistant to different Acids !
So, as we may now be able to see, it may take different Alkaline Minerals and Carbons to provide these organs of the body the protection from the Acids which they themself are to produce for the Digestive system to work properly !
So, we are back to square one again, that when our body is short of certain Alkaline Minerals and Complete Complexed Carbohydrates, then these organs of the body which are supposed to produce and control the Acids which the Digestive system needs may become Sick and Diseased and not function properly and our stomach may then become Low in stomach acid production !
It may surprise some to learn that when the Organs of the body connected to HCl production are short of needed Calcium, these Organs may not be able to produce
the needed Stomach Acids needed for Good Digestion?
Another idea to consider in the Digestion process is the Digestive Bacteria, which if fed properly, they Create Organic Acids other than HCl, which help Digest certain foods !
Then maybe we should consider the connection of the Endocrine Glands:
Maybe we should 1st consider what may effect the ability of the body to have enough stomach acids?
Could it be the Strength or Weakness of the Endocrine Glands, which may regulate the Rest of the body functions?
And maybe what Endocrine Gland Dominance we may be subjected to?
Then maybe "WE" need to ask what may Strengthen or Weaken the Endocrine Glands in the 1st place?
Is not that so simple ?
Also maybe we should consider these ideas:
To understand the Acids of the stomach, one needs to also understand where these Stomach Acids come from in the 1st place?
The Stomach does "NOT" produce these Acids it's self, but other Organs of the body produce the stomach Acids and if these other Organs Lack enough Calcium and other needed Alkaline Minerals, then they "Cannot" supply a Steady supply of Acids to the Stomach as it may need?
Because these Organs --must-- 1st have enough Alkaline Minerals to keep them Healthy to be able to produce the needed Acids for the stomach, and when these Organs are
Sick and Diseased, then the stomach will not be able to "Stabilize" it's pH, thus allowing it to become too Acidic when no foods are available, Causing Acid
Reflux, and when foods are available, the stomach then cannot get enough Acidsto do the job of Digestion !
Just like a yo-yo !
Thus when a person has these problems and decide to take more Alkaline Minerals by themself into the stomach, the end result may be that the Alkaline Minerals may overpower the present Acids available and then the stomach may thus Lack in enough Acids to Finish the job of Digestion !
It is kinda like having a Furnace with a Big Fire in it and injecting a small amount of water as a fine mist into this Fire, this may Increase the Fire, but when one Floods the Furnace with enough Water, it shall then put the Fire out !
Thus those with Poor Digestion may need to supply some weak Acids along with their meal or when they take any Alkaline Minerals, to Better Digest their foods? A little Lemon juice may help, like in the Alkalizing drink? Maybe a --little-- ACV with the meal, unless one has Adrenal problems, then the Lemon juice may be Best?
As usual not everything may be as it may first seem to be !
Cause and Effect !
"WE" are What "WE" Eat !
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This is a reply to # 1,364,135Hi Mr moreless
Because I find the stomach acid topic very interesting I will put something again related with the HCL Therapy. I hope you will pardon me.
What I find interesting is not the therapy by itself, but rather the conclusions that we can obtain in the events that such therapies are indeed helpful.
One interesting observation made by the author of the article is that “The presence of a normal production of hydrochloric acid and its presence in the bloodstream and other fluids of the body is the agent responsible for the acidity of the white cells and the maintenance of a normal pH.”
I am sure a lot of us will gladly read any comments that you might have on the following:
A greatly reduced extracts from From http://www.rheumatic.org/hcl.htm
--BEGINNING OF QUOTES--
HCL (DILUTE HYDROCHLORIC ACID) THERAPY
In search for a remedy that would stimulate the reticulo-endothelial systems of the body, the author of the article performed a number of experiments involving various substances under the cover- glass slip of the microscope slide while observing the red, white, and bacterial cells under dark field microscopy.
Two things were obvious by direct vision of the infected human blood:
1-The EDTA dissolved the bacteria.
2-The hydrochloric acid increased the activity of the white blood cell.
When hydrochloric acid is injected into the body in very dilute, physiologic amounts, the white blood cell systems increase their activity, the blood pH returns to normal regardless of whether it is too acid or too alkaline and the number of white cells increase.
It is reasonable to believe that the acid-base balance of the blood is maintained through the acid cells and since hydrochloric acid is the only inorganic acid normally made in the body and that it is to this acid specifically that we must attribute the apparent acidic response of the white cells.
The presence of a normal production of hydrochloric acid and its presence in the bloodstream and other fluids of the body is the agent responsible for the acidity of the white cells and the maintenance of a normal pH. It is the agent that renders the fluids and tissues of the body bactericidal and unfavorable as a media. The more the white cells are maintained in a phagocytic state the better is the natural immunity.
The leukocytes, or the white blood cells, are factors which aid or supplement the natural immunity. At times, however, when the virulence of the invading pathogen and the influx of toxins into the bloodstream is of such a preponderant nature, the immune bodies become overpowered. The excess toxins not only paralyze or shock the white cells into inactivity but they also bring about tissue injury and the resultant reactions of disease.
Good health and the presence of absolute immunity depend on the existence of a normal production of hydrochloric acid and its presence in the bloodstream and other fluids of the body. When the HCL production falls short, and a progressive diminution takes place, we find a loss of absolute immunity, a decreasing degree of tissue susceptibility, an imbalance of blood chemistry, and poor digestion and assimilation. This is the starting point of general ill-health and malnutrition. It is a logical assumption that a lack of sufficient minerals in the daily diet must of necessity give rise to a deficiency in the hydrochloric acid production. It is known that certain salts, such as potassium, are needed by the glands responsible for its production.
It is also known that when the hydrochloric acid production falls short the required amount necessary to maintain the acidity of the white cells and the acid-base balance becomes insufficient and hydrogen chloride eventually vanishes from the circulation. When hydrogen chloride disappears from the circulation some other acid must take its place immediately in order to maintain the pH of the circulating fluids. The acid wastes assume the role of hydrogen chloride in the blood chemistry. This is followed by an imbalance of the blood chemistry.
The acid wastes can not be thrown off as quickly as they are formed so they begin to accumulate in the fluids and tissues of the body with the resultant struggle between these and the alkaline reserve. The result is a depletion of the latter.
It has been well established that in all cases of malnutrition the condition of acidosis is always present. There follows a reduction of physiologic functions and the EVER INCREASING accumulation of acid metabolic wastes in the bloodstream. The hydrogen chloride production becomes diminished. The hydrogen ions necessary for the maintenance of a normal pH fall short and sooner or later hydrochloric acid is replaced by the waste acids in the maintenance of the acid base balance. These acid wastes include carbonic acid, diacetic acid, lactic acid, acetic acids, fatty acids, uric acid, etc. These acid wastes however, are abnormal constituents of the bloodstream and will act as a disruptor of the natural blood chemistry.
Recent studies in Germany and in this country demonstrate that cancer, diabetes, acute infection, neurosis, passive congestions, gastric catarrh, severe anemia, arteriosclerosis, hypertension, chemical poisoning, affections of the heart, neoplastic growths, metabolic and endocrine disorders, senile insanities, dyspepsia, chronic ulcers of the stomach and duodenum, cholecystitis, appendicitis, duodenitis, worry, anxiety and pyloric obstruction show pronounced changes in the hydrochloric acid production. Too much, too little or none at all.
Statistical surveys have been made of the gastric acidity of patients of all ages and it was found that 25-30% of those over the age of 45 showed no free or combined hydrochloric acid. The incidence of achlorhydria in the whole series of more than 3,000 patients examined was more than 10%. We know that pepsin is inactive unless a considerable amount of hydrochloric acid is present. We also know that very few bacteria can survive the acid conditions in the stomach and that the gastric juice partially sterilizes the food preventing putrifaction during the gastric phase of digestion. Without acid in the stomach the benefit of this action is not obtained.
--END OF QUOTES--
WIEL
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This is a reply to # 1,364,260Hi WIEL,
Answer: While most folks & Researchers Only see what is in front of them and seem to be unable to see the Forest behind the Big Tree they are standing in front of, what is one to expect, but In-complete understandings? Yet, they do come up with some interesting ideas?
Your post: Hi Mr moreless
Because I find the stomach acid topic very interesting I will put something again related with the HCL Therapy. I hope you will pardon me.
What I find interesting is not the therapy by itself, but rather the conclusions that we can obtain in the events that such therapies are indeed helpful.
One interesting observation made by the author of the article is that “The presence of a normal production of hydrochloric acid and its presence in the bloodstream and other fluids of the body is the agent responsible for the acidity of the white cells and the maintenance of a normal pH.”
I am sure a lot of us will gladly read any comments that you might have on the following:
A greatly reduced extracts from From http://www.rheumatic.org/hcl.htm
--BEGINNING OF QUOTES--
HCL (DILUTE HYDROCHLORIC ACID) THERAPY
In search for a remedy that would stimulate the reticulo-endothelial systems of the body, the author of the article performed a number of experiments involving various substances under the cover- glass slip of the microscope slide while observing the red, white, and bacterial cells under dark field microscopy.
Two things were obvious by direct vision of the infected human blood:
1-The EDTA dissolved the bacteria.
2-The hydrochloric acid increased the activity of the white blood cell.
When hydrochloric acid is injected into the body in very dilute, physiologic amounts, the white blood cell systems increase their activity, the blood pH returns to normal regardless of whether it is too acid or too alkaline and the number of white cells increase.
It is reasonable to believe that the acid-base balance of the blood is maintained through the acid cells and since hydrochloric acid is the only inorganic acid normally made in the body and that it is to this acid specifically that we must attribute the apparent acidic response of the white cells.
The presence of a normal production of hydrochloric acid and its presence in the bloodstream and other fluids of the body is the agent responsible for the acidity of the white cells and the maintenance of a normal pH. It is the agent that renders the fluids and tissues of the body bactericidal and unfavorable as a media. The more the white cells are maintained in a phagocytic(Empty Vessel) state the better is the natural immunity.
The leukocytes, or the white blood cells, are factors which aid or supplement the natural immunity.
Answer: Could it be Better to say that the White blood cells may be the End Result of immunity, Rather than the Reason for it: Please review these past posts:
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http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=852488#i
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At times, however, when the virulence of the invading pathogen and the influx of toxins into the bloodstream is of such a preponderant nature, the immune bodies become overpowered. The excess toxins not only paralyze or shock the white cells into inactivity but they also bring about tissue injury and the resultant reactions of disease.
Good health and the presence of absolute immunity depend on the existence of a normal production of hydrochloric acid and its presence in the bloodstream and other fluids of the body. When the HCL production falls short, and a progressive diminution takes place, we find a loss of absolute immunity, a decreasing degree of tissue susceptibility, an imbalance of blood chemistry, and poor digestion and assimilation. This is the starting point of general ill-health and malnutrition. -------It is a logical assumption that a ---lack---- of ----sufficient minerals---- in the daily diet must of necessity give rise to a deficiency in the hydrochloric acid production. It is known that certain salts, such as potassium, are needed by the glands responsible for its production.------
Answer: Here they may have Hit the Nail Right on the Head? A Lack of sufficient minerals in the Daily diet = Loss of production of HCL ! End.
It is also known that when the hydrochloric acid production falls short the required amount necessary to maintain the acidity of the white cells and the acid-base balance becomes insufficient and hydrogen chloride eventually vanishes from the circulation. When hydrogen chloride disappears from the circulation some other acid must take its place immediately in order to maintain the pH of the circulating fluids. The acid wastes assume the role of hydrogen chloride in the blood chemistry. This is followed by an imbalance of the blood chemistry.
The acid wastes can not be thrown off as quickly as they are formed so they begin to accumulate in the fluids and tissues of the body with the resultant struggle between these and the alkaline reserve. The result is a depletion of the latter.
It has been well established that in all cases of malnutrition the condition of acidosis is always present.
Answer: Again they Hit the Nail Right on the Head, but How Many Doctors will tell you this? Quote"(It has been well established that in all cases of malnutrition the condition of acidosis is always present.)" End.
There follows a reduction of physiologic functions and the EVER INCREASING accumulation of acid metabolic wastes in the bloodstream. The hydrogen chloride production becomes diminished. The hydrogen ions necessary for the maintenance of a normal pH fall short and sooner or later hydrochloric acid is replaced by the waste acids in the maintenance of the acid base balance. These acid wastes include carbonic acid, diacetic acid, lactic acid, acetic acids, fatty acids, uric acid, etc. These acid wastes however, are abnormal constituents of the bloodstream and will act as a disruptor of the natural blood chemistry.
Recent studies in Germany and in this country demonstrate that cancer, diabetes, acute infection, neurosis, passive congestions, gastric catarrh, severe anemia, arteriosclerosis, hypertension, chemical poisoning, affections of the heart, neoplastic growths, metabolic and endocrine disorders, senile insanities, dyspepsia, chronic ulcers of the stomach and duodenum, cholecystitis, appendicitis, duodenitis, worry, anxiety and pyloric obstruction show pronounced changes in the hydrochloric acid production. Too much, too little or none at all.
Answer: Now what are they trying to say Here: Quote "Too much, too little or none at all."
Maybe it would be Simpler to just say our body needs the --Right amount-- of HCL for the proper Digestion of whatever foods we eat --upon Demand--? We cannot have this without the needed Alkaline Minerals needed to keep those Organs of our body Healthy, which are Responsible for Producing the HCL ! End.
Statistical surveys have been made of the gastric acidity of patients of all ages and it was found that 25-30% of those over the age of 45 showed no free or combined hydrochloric acid. The incidence of achlorhydria in the whole series of more than 3,000 patients examined was more than 10%. We know that pepsin is inactive unless a considerable amount of hydrochloric acid is present. We also know that very few bacteria can survive the acid conditions in the stomach and that the gastric juice partially sterilizes the food preventing putrifaction during the gastric phase of digestion. Without acid in the stomach the benefit of this action is not obtained.
--END OF QUOTES--
WIEL
Answer: Bottom line may be that without the needed Alkaline Minerals Releasing their needed Electro-magnetic Energy to Power our body we --SHALL-- become Sick and Diseased ! This cannot come about without the Digestive system of our body having the needed Acids to do this job !
Cause and Effect !
As usual not everything may be as it may 1st seem to be !
Choose Life or Death this Day !
Smile Tis your choice.
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