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Hi folks,
I know this is an Iodine forum but most curezone 'IP6' searches bring me to this forum. Please let me know if I need to post this elsewhere.
First, let me say that I believe IP6 works, very well.
I just started IP6 last weekend - Jarrow 500mg - once a day. Once in a while you come across a supplement that reveals just how toxic you are and IP6 is one of them. Two days into the IP6 arrives my menstrual cycle, which yields rust-colored blood - interesting. I endure 6 days on just 500mg/day before I throw in the towel. The 24 hours/day metal taste and muscle twitches are tolerable but the vertigo, faint heartbeat and psychiatric stuff is not (metal detox?). Reminded me of the time I had my first and last IV EDTA treatment. I believe this stuff really works -perhaps too well at even a low dose - so I'm eager to resume taking it but I'll have to curtail my dosing, perhaps to once every other day or every 2 days and see how I do. In the meantime, my freezer is stocked with a week's worth of red meat.
My iron levels are low, probably from Babesia. I'm trying to undersand all of this... when I've in the past supplemented with iron I get extremey fatigued. I take IP6, a supplement that chelates out rusty iron and I don't get fatigued but I go through detox.
Those 6 days of IP6 did quite a bit of good; just a matter of dealing with the storm before the calm.
Anyone relate?
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- Re: More IP6 stuff Newport
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My iron levels are low, probably from Babesia. I'm trying to undersand all of this... when I've in the past supplemented with iron I get extremey fatigued. I take IP6, a supplement that chelates out rusty iron and I don't get fatigued but I go through detox.
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Don't take iron supps, better to be a little anemic than feeding TB, Malaria and Babesia. Also don't forget Hookworms, huge reason for iron deficiency...
I now believe that Hg toxicity simply dumps these other oxidizers by ion exchange. So copper becomes stuck in liver and iron turns to rust and so on…
If you then have an issue like Malaria/Babesia that destroys your RBCs you will soon be short of iron but your body won’t store the needed iron.
One reason is that there is already too much rust and the body may not be able to distinguish between them, the other is that with Hg present there are too many oxidizers and iron looses out.
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- Copper Toxicity Newport
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This is a reply to # 1,347,854Copper is excreted mainly through the bile. Vitamin C binds or chelates copper and facilitates its removal. Zinc and manganese displace copper from the liver. Molybdenum and sulfur bind to copper and greatly facilitate its excretion.
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- Manganese=Cloves Newport
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This is a reply to # 1,347,855Another anthelmic Cloves contains large amounts of manganese to chelate copper from the liver...
and from: http://www.homeoint.org/books/boericmm/c/cupr.htm
Cuprum oxydatum nigrum 1x (all kinds of worms, including Tapeworms and trichinosis according to Zopfy's 60 years' experience).- Re: Manganese=Cloves UserX
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This is a reply to # 1,347,909I'm on it already. Had some clove bud oil that I rubbed into my gums and I received last week all the homeopathics, cuprum included. Thanks Newport :)
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This is a reply to # 1,347,916Not sure if the oil has this but as per Dr. Orlee's book the ground Cloves do.
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This is a reply to # 1,347,854Oh my gosh! Things get clearer and clearer by the day Newport! I wondered if I was feeding some bug with the iron. I had to stop it, couldn't function otherwise.
Another thing that gets me thinking is the copper element. I know this sounds strange but when I really started to feel ill, my skin - well, mostly my face - took on an orange-ish hue. My TCM practitioner at the time called it 'sallow' and explained that faulty digestion was the culprit. Copper toxicity (just because of its color) ran through my mind but I dismissed it for one reason or another.
I've been off the IP6 for a few days now and the weird symptoms I experienced have calmed but I feel that it really did something to the core of this illness. I now wonder if Babesia, if not a multitude of other problems, can be tackled by IP6 alone...what a discovery!- Iron Metabolism, Malaria, and Other ... Newport
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from: http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/content/abstract/138/12/2537
Iron Metabolism, Malaria, and Other Infections: What Is All the Fuss About?1,2
Andrew M. Prentice*
MRC International Nutrition Group, London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, London WC1E 7HT, UK; and MRC Keneba, The Gambia
This article briefly describes how iron lies at the center of a host-pathogen battle for nutrients and why there are many theoretical reasons to suspect that administration of supplemental iron might predispose to infection. This is supported by in vitro and small animal studies, but meta-analysis of human epidemiological and intervention studies has found little evidence for most disease outcomes. Supplemental iron does appear to increase susceptibility to malaria as measured by a variety of malariometric indices. However, even in malarious areas, iron appears beneficial in iron-deficient subjects. The concerns about iron supplementation programs for children seem to be confined to Sub-Saharan Africa and to areas of high malaria endemicity, where it will be necessary to adopt a cautious approach to supplementation based either on screening out iron-replete children or combining iron administration with effective disease-control strategies
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This is a reply to # 1,347,868Hi B,
I used to have problems w anemia.
I was feeling anemic or borderline, so I bought some Barefoot's Herbal Iron syrup-tincture.
It tastes so good, I polished of the 16 oz in no time. It is really great stuff.
It contains Sorgum molasses (sp?), Yellow dock, olive leaf extract and oil of oregano.
Feels like the body accepts it and wants more, compared to cramming down iron pills and polluting my body along with supplementing it like I usually do.
You should try it! Wouldn't hurt! :) :) :)- Re: try herbal iron instead of pills... UserX
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This is a reply to # 1,348,396>>You should try it! Wouldn't hurt! :) :) :)
I so wish it wouldn't HC but it does :( I used an herbal liquid Iron supplement called Floradix. I love that it is made from flowers and such. But even the small amount of elemental iron in it was doing me in. It's probably because I have critter problems -Lyme/Babesia- so I'm sure the extra iron helps them more than it does me.
Oddly enough, I'm not anemic (!) even though I have low iron. I'm gonna stick with this IP6, there's something to be said about it. I'm anxious to see where I am a month from now.
Barefoot's products are great - so tasty. I used his De-wormer and was practically drinking the stuff by the ounces!
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- Re: try herbal iron instead of pills... HarmonicCharge
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Are you saying that chelated iron agrees with your system better than elemental iron?
I called the Barefoot phone # and they are very knowledgeable. I wonder if they can make you up a custom herbal mix? I don't think it is very high in actual iron, but more like, has very little in a natural form that the body can easily absorb. Like molasses, I don't think a tsp of their syrup would have very much in it, and barely a trace of iron, but it would be easily assimilated.
I bought some herbal liquid from the healthfood store when I was starving for iron a few years ago...didn't seem to do much and didn't have any better vibration than the iron pills I was taking. I think the freshness of the herbs make a difference.
I was kind of afraid to take the IP6, I am curious to know how you feel after the round of it.- Re: try herbal iron instead of pills... UserX
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This is a reply to # 1,349,039>>Are you saying that chelated iron agrees with your system better than elemental iron?
Hm, not sure HC. I'm just apprehensive to supplement iron in any form for the moment, although what you describe above sounds like a good option when I'm ready to test the waters again :)
MissCast wrote that IP6 is not for the faint of heart and she's right. I have to go slowly with it.
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- Got the rust out, I think MissCast
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This is a reply to # 1,347,854I hung in through my month of IP6 mainly because I respect Newport's advice.
One thing I noticed near the end and now, a month later, is my blood or circulation seems to have improved. Pinker nails,heightened color in your face when you splash cold water and reddened toes in a hot bath. Things that you realize, when you see them, you used to notice when you were young but forgot about.
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>>I hung in through my month of IP6 mainly because I respect Newport's advice.
Couldn't agree with you more! I think 75% of what I do is because I listen to Newport :)
That's fantastic that you had such good results. Curious how much IP6 you took on a daily basis for the month?- Re: Got the rust out, I think MissCast
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This is a reply to # 1,347,887Thanks Babirye!
Started out taking a 500 mg cap 2X/day but Newport recommended a higher dose so last 3 weeks took 1g 2X/day. Not for the faint of heart. I thought I'd made a big dent in metal removal in the last year but am only scratching the surface, apparently.- Re: Got the rust out, I think jessesmom1987
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This is a reply to # 1,347,897One of the hardest things I found with the IP6, was the scheduling of when to take it that it would be away from other supplements/foods. I remember to take it first thing when I get up in the am, but it's tougher getting it in later on in the day.
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- Lead disrupts formation of red blood... jessesmom1987
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This is a reply to # 1,347,814Babirye,
Wasn't your Lead high also?
Found this interesting information:
//www.curezone.org/upload/PDF/Books/ToxicMetals.pdf
>>>Lead deposits primarily in bone, and it disrupts erythropoiesis, the formation of red blood cells...
sheesh, to go with the Babesia/Lyme's and red blood cell destruction
and if the Ehrlichia, Lyme co-infection is also present (as with the Rocky Mtn Spotted Fever) it affects the white blood cells.
What was it the old commercial for Geritol used to say "iron poor blood"---I just say "poor darned blood"....no wonder for the fatigue :(- Re: Lead disrupts formation of red b... UserX
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This is a reply to # 1,349,069Just saw this post...
Yes, my lead is extremely high. I know, not encouraging to read all of this..
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