Oooh I don't think we can really discuss this in this forum. Infertilty can be a very sensitive subject and I wouldn't want anyone, female or male, to think we don't take it seriously -- but -- since beauty is a natural part of fertility, estrogen being the hormone that makes us even more attractive ;-) during our cycles I think we can discuss it through natural healing.

I did a Liver Flush this morning (Dr Schulze) and instantly noticed the difference in my skin, softer and better color. Others like Southern Belle have noticed the difference with doing Dr Clark flushes (got to try one soon!) too. I think it's partly the olive oil. It is wonderful stuff and I like drinking it. I've used it as a shower/bath oil and it is energizing. I've also used it as a hair conditioner but never together with honey so I must try that - sounds delicious.

If you want natural products without the fuss of making them yourself, I recommend the Dr Haushka line. I've never tried their cosmetics, but love their rose moisture cream. Their lipsticks and eyshadows look lovely. You can find Dr Haushka in the US, but it is a bit expensive (but no more so than the big companies). They seem to me a company with integrity.

Liza

Liza when you open the forum botton at the top of the home page there is a little welcome section, that invites us all to discuss what is on our minds. And I do understand what you are saying, but beauty is something very important to alot of women,not just for men, and who cares if they take it seriously or not, its for our health and mental well being. It is also like you pointed out in an earlier post that there is no other forum for women, so we took this one and used it as one to discuss women's issues. As you have noticed, when we start cleansing our bodies the results show from not only the way we feel but also the way we look on the outside. And I'm not discussing something that is superficial, I'm talking about something quite serious. Many women have gotten terribly sick from using the wrong cosmetics (chemically laden, etc...) and have sufered the after effects. But I don't believe that they should give up their enjoyment or pleasure in feeling good about themselves by using pretties like makeup, skin and hair care products, I just believe we need an option an alternative. And I thought that is what we might discuss with other women. It is not a vain thing, for many it is a psycological fixation, and I'm not too sure its really wrong to want to look good. Wouldn't it seem that there is something more disturbing if a woman wasn't interested in taking care of herself, whether it be make-up, exercise or cleanses? Just the same I do see how this topic could be very benefical to women suffering from infertility. If a woman has a 'need' to use cosmetics but it is making her sick inside because of the crap her body is filling up with and thus has a reaction like infertility..... So I do see the importance of this topic, I just hope you might look at it from my point of view also. Elaina

Thanks for the tip. I've been wondering what to do for my hair. I too am not wanting to use poison products on my body.
Avocadoe can be used as a hair conditioner with great results for sheen and softness.

I have a couple that I can suggest. More skin care than makeup, but sometimes the same effect I suppose.

You can scrub your face with salt, it works well as an exfoliator. Then moisturize with vitamin E. This is probably only a good idea for people like me, with dry skin.

I have more recently been using a weird technique that I thought up, and have had some success. I mix salt and cayenne and scrub my lips with it - using my finger or a toothbrush. When I rinse it off, I put Vit. E oil on, and my lips have a rosy glow. This would probably work on cheeks too, though you would have to be careful to avoid your eyes.

You can of course make a mask from bentonite. It eliminates problems on the outside as well as the inside.

A while back, I was looking for this type of thing and found a neat site. It has lots of recipies for soaps, scrubs, lotions, & lip balms. I have listed it here:

http://www.pinemeadows.net/recipes.php#r1

Elaina,
I work with a company called Melalueca. Some have heard of it some have not. We market for a complete line of nontoxic, cacinogen free household products and makeup. The makeup line is by Nicole Miller. It rivals with Clinique, Lancomb, Estee Lauder...you get the pic. :) Everything is at wholesale price. I love it!!!! You need an account though to purchase these products. Don't worry! The account is only $29 the first year and goes down by over half every year after that. Please e-mail me at jessicameans22@hotmail.com. Even if you are not interested, i would like to know what you think!
Jess

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hi every1
well for ages i was searching 4 a good site 4 cosmetics , makeup n skin care
this site does it all. n i guess its updated very frequently n more n more arlticles r added
the site is http://ultimate-cosmetics.com
just have a look
if any1 find more such sites plz tell me

ultimate cosmetics

things i use. water soluble gycerin (kmart sells near pharmaceticals ask clerk if can't find) is acouple $ mix it with water to the solution you want is a natural gentle oil free way to soften hands legs face etc. also they sell cheap old corn huskers lotion the best thing yet for really chapped skin/ elbow heels etc, again bout 3 $ a bottle just little dabs go a long long way.does not leave an oily residue at all.you will see a dramatic result within minutes really.
i used to make a dandruff shampoo for my exhusband from marigolds and rosemary and the gycerin it cured his dandruff in about a month (esp on his eyebrows) and his hair had been dry/bristly and got much softer.i just steeped the flowers and fresh rosemary in a non metal of water simmered about 15 minutes/ let cool straine dit off then added gycerin to get it to a texture i liked.
evening primrose oil is well known to help womens skin...pleas enever put anythign on face liek for a peel etc til testit on inner arm i have seen posts of women that scarred their faces tryign garlic maskes etc. a very nice natural exfolite is soimply mix cornmeal with a bit of olive oil/ dampen skin with warm water
then oh so gently rub it on face. mix a bit maybe 1/2 a cap of applecidar vinegar to a 4oz glass warm tap water and use that
to dab wash it off break off the oil then spals with regular warm wwater til all clean/ the spalsh again with cold water (never ice)
to close pores. dab dry, put a light coat of gycerin with water mix over it for seal and added moisture back in skin.
oatmeal is a wonderful facial exfoliat soap just put a small bit in side a fold in wash clothe and use like a soap. remember the grin dit yourself baby hand grinders? i use dto put oats in it an dgrind to a powder the jsut put a bit in myhand and add wwater and use my fingers gently to soap up myface i forgot about that one!!oh my ineed to do that again youwill have bettermilk soft facein days doing that .... hmmmm (off to trot to my oatmeal box right now in fact )
ps i amke my own perfumed skinlotion/using jojobaoil/almond oil/
cornhuskers and gycerin/very small amount oil of basiland evening primrose soft gel caps i open and squish into it,and vitamin e oil and distilled water.i rubit on my feet legs arms(i have massive scars on bothbtw) and it keeps them looking much smooth with jstu a very very light hint of sweet basil fragrance smell.