Another oleander cancer testimonial 
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This was posted minutes ago in my Yahoo Health Group Oleandersoup:
My name is Candace. I joined the group after my dad was diagnoised with stage 4 colon cancer that had spread to the liver and lungs. Late January he had surgery to remove a portion of his colon. To the dissapointment of the doctors my father decided he was not going to do chemotherapy and was given a year to live without any treatment. We had heard about Anvirzel, ordered it from Hondorus, and were planning on getting my dad started on it right away. After the surgery, he contracted a gram negative virus and became very ill. We had to wait over a month before starting the Anvirzel. In between that time he had a pet scan that showed multiple tumors and lesions that had grown between January and April- to us this meant his cancer was pretty agressive. We started him on the Anvirzel beginning of April and were told to give it at least 90 days for it to begin working. We scheduled a scan for last week, and you can only imagine how nervous we all have been waiting on the results. Well we got them in yesterday and we were thrilled. The results showed that the cancer had not spread anywhere in his body. The only tumors and lesions that are there are the original ones. The doctor said my father seems to be managing his cancer very well and told him to keep doing what he is doing. This is a man who was given a year to live without Chemo. Best of all is he looks great and feels great. Hopefully in another 3 months the original tumors will be gone. This has put all my fears and doubts aside about what we are doing because now I know we chose the right path.
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- Re: Another oleander cancer testimon... woody7 16 y 4,301
- Re: Another oleander cancer testimon... woody7
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,238,518great news,
my thoughts are since the new tumors are gone and the original ones are still there maybe the drs misdiagnosed the tumors to begin with and they werent cancerous but wanted himto take chemo anyway? very interesting- Re: Another oleander cancer testimon... dquixote1217
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No, this guy had colon cancer and they tried targeted radiation that the doctors convinced them only killed the cancer cells, which of course is impossible, and the result was that the cancer continued to grow and spread and the mainstream doctors were chasing the cancers all around his body like little boys trying to stick their fingers in the holes in the dam instead of putting the whole damn in order. Finally they reached a point where they thought stronger chemo and radiation might buy him a few months of time. So oleander and the rest of my protocol is having to fight the cancers and the effects of prior treatment - but he is doing really well. Sometimes tumors do not ever disappear entirely - they just become stabliized as benign and shrunken masses. That is what happened with my 85 year old uncle when targeted radiation failed to stop his lung cancer from growing and spreading. Oleander halted the spread and eliminated all signs of cancer except a small shrunken spot which is essentially like scar tissue. He has been pronounced cancer free,
Got another report posted today - a member's 80 year old father is doing well after mainstream docs said he only had a couple of months to live last Thanksgiving.
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- Re: Another oleander cancer testimon... woody7
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This is a reply to # 1,239,791great news,
im really excited about this,the more i hear the better it sounds, especially with actual cases not some lame drs views.this is great
- Re: Another oleander cancer testimon... woody7
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- Re: Another oleander cancer testimon... dquixote1217
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- Re: Another oleander cancer testimon... patientadvocate
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This is a reply to # 1,238,518Oleander is a cardiac glycoside.
It usually allows calcium to enter certain cells when calcium usually isn't entering certain cells.
In heart muscle it does this by affecting the sodium pump. In cancer, it may do the same thing which would make sense.
The newer lesion are probably smaller than original sites,...the original site of cancer usually consists of an external mass of rapidly dividing cells that surrounds dead cells in the center, hence cancer tumors leak out acidic contents and cause tissue detruction and pain.
The older lesions probalbly have a certain level of calcification connected due to immune system response, which doesn't happen in new tumors as there is no dead tissue in the center which can leak pieces and substances that cause an inflamatory response.
This calcium if very x-ray reflective and may show up for years after a tumor is gone. This may be why some tumors appear on xrays and some don't.
Keep doing what you are doing, but please read my other postings and augment his therapies with some of the very inexpensive ones that are readily available.
Good Luck and Keep up the Good Work.
Bret- Oleander ingredients dquixote1217
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Good point - calcified tumors can show up for a long time, sometimes forever. So can other benign masses and even what is essentially scar tissue.
Oleander extract cerainly does contain oleandrin and other cardiac glycosides, however, they are actually an overall minority of the ingredients in the extract and oleander extract is far from merely a cardiac glycoside. That is why it does far more than just let calcium into the cell, and why it is far more effective than other cardiac glycosides which have been used for cancer. A partial list of the cancer fighting and immune boosting compounds in oleander:
Oleandrin and a number of other cardiac glycosides such as Oleandrinogen, Oleandrigenin and others, several long-chain polysacharrides such as Beta-sistosterol, Quercitin, Linoleic-acid, Oleic-acid, Adynerin, Alpha-amyrin, Betulin, Foliandrin, Folinerin, Gitoxigenin, Isoquercitrin, Lauric-acid, Neriin, Oleandrin, Oleandrigenin, Oleanolic-acid, Rutin, Stigmasterol, Ursolic-acid, Uzarigenin.
For a better look at how oleander fights cancer, see my article:
Oleander Induces Autophagy - Exclusive Story
and also take a look at:
The Newman Studies on Oleander
As powerful as oleander is, I do not recommend it or any other item as a stand-alone treatment for cancer. The person who the post was about is actually following my recommended protocol pretty closely:
A Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol
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- Re: Oleander ingredients patientadvocate
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This is a reply to # 1,240,368Thanks.
I did not know of all those other ingredients were in oleander,...several I have never heard of and cannot reference wikipedia.
You know, anyone reading my postings can see how I am a big "oxygen" guy.
My website touts oxygen as a curative substance for almost all diseases.
My favorite saying is, " If a disease hates oxygen, maybe we should give it more oxygen!"
Anytime I see a substance cross treating cancer and viruses, or malaria, or autoimmune, I automatically assume there is an oxygen connection. I mean, it would be hard to imaging the mechanism of action is different in different ailments. One can look at clinical studies and see at least ten very promising treatments for cancer and all of them are used to treat viruses, etc.
It would be easier to conclude the mechanism of action is common to these different diseases.
The only treatment model that can easily identify a common trait between cancer, virus, and parasites,..etc., is to say that all of these different diseases exploit anaerobic conditions and any substance that treats "everything" is only treating one aspect of all these diseases,...how it breaths!
So, when I saw all these other ingredients in Oleander I was not surprised to see sterols, bioflavenoids, carboxyl groups hanging off most of these substances.
It is no surprise. What I like about the carboxyl groups in some of these substances is that they are huge structures. Anything with a corboxyl group readily donates H+ off the carboxyl group and then that exposes two oxygen molecules that are highly chemically active.
Bioflavenoids also do this,...donate hydrogen,(sometimes as an antioxidant,) leaving double bonded oxygen exposed.
The hearty structure means that the molecule should be generally stable over time,...meaning this carboxyl group can donate oxygen where low O2 tension is found, (cells,mitochondria)and then accept O2 where high O2 tension is found towards the lungs.
Almost all of the successfull alternative treatements out there can do this.
"DMSO" especially is sensative to O2 tension, (krysalis.net)
Some oxygen donors can only donate the oxygen and can not pickup oxygen.
Polysacharides I feel are more important as far as immune system and can be readily effective against viruses. To be more accurate lipopolysacharides are actually used in vaccines to stimulate cell production. Lipopolysacharides will stimulate production of various white cells dependending on length. Short, medium, complex, and very complex molecules will initiate white cell production of different cells.
In cancer, immune stimulation only is relevant if the cancer can be metabolically injured or inhibbitted. Otherwise it will stay hidden and appear normal to the immune system. This is why immune therapies do not cure cancer.
Even if you could find a cancer antigen, grow dendrite cells to communicate this antigen to attacker cells. The newly excited attacker cells still wont find the antigen in the cancer membrane. Viable cancer makes a histocompatability molecule and disguises the antigen that the killer cells are hunting for.
So, in cancer I usually don't devote much energy to expousing the attributes of lipopolysacharides. However, having said that,...if you do slow cancer metabolic ability to make this HK molecule,...then the immune system can actually be part of the answer.
Not knowing a whole lot about Oleander at first, I will make this bold prediction.
I am declaring it as an oxygen therapy and I predict it is, or will be used to treat any disease that is anaerobic loving. This list would include diseases like, autoimmunes, (viral), HIV, Hepatitis, fungal, yeast, and not just cancer.
Why? Because every other oxygen therapy cross treats these diseases!!!
Summary:
Several types of cardiac glycosides have shown anticancer activity, (anthroquinone being one,)oleandrin especially. I consider this an oxygen therapy as it has been proven, rasied ph means raised O2 perfusion.
These other fine ingredients in oleandrin are some of the most complex molecules containing a carboxyl group you can find. Carboxyl groups are believed to attack cancer's anearobic needs via oxygen donation.
Also, bioflavenoids appear to be donors of oxygen too, and Oleander contains these as well.
All in all, I am not surprised to say,...oleander is an oxygen therapy!
Now, the only question is,....how much does it cost for a month supply?
Thanks for the info.
I am researching these substances right now as you read this I am sure.
Bret- Re: Oleander ingredients dquixote1217
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As far as costs go, you can make your own oleander at home for mere pennies.
The Recipe for Oleander Soup Part 1
The Recipe for Oleander Soup Part 2 - Tips and Advice
For the herbal supplement version, a month's supply used to treat cancer normally runs $45 to $60 depending on whether you order the capsule or extract (it costs more to ship the extract). However, to simply keep cancer at bay, that same amount will last about 4 months when taking a lesser preventive or maintenance dose.
The immune system is nature's first line of defense against cancer and other illnesses, and the immune system is constantly killing cancer cells in all of us. Only when the immune system is impaired (especially the liver) or overwhelmed by toxins does cancer gain a foothold and continue to grow.
When it comes to natural and alternative medicines, Wikipedia is woefully short of information and horribly biased towards mainstream treatment by the mainstream trolls and moderators there.
Have you ever heard of a product called OxyGen? I like it a lot and seem to feel a noticeable boost when I take it.
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- Re: Oleander ingredients patientadvocate
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This is a reply to # 1,240,508Tell me more about this oxy-product.
You are right about the immune system! Immune injury is one of only two proven causes of cancer.
The other is chronic irritation.
Sounds awfully simple doesn't it. "Only two causes of Cancer."
The complexity comes when looking at how many ways you can damage your immune system and also how many different sources of chronic irritation there are:
oxidative, chemical, infectious, physical/mechanical.
Cancer has many early stages that are not officially categorized.
Stage I and II has many steps inbetween that involve metabolic changes within the cell, ph changes within the cell and lastly, the production of Hk molecules which make it invisible to immune system. The same can be said for all other stages.
So,...yes, it is theorized that our immune system attacks abnormal cells daily. They would have too. At what point we call abnormal cells "cancer," is subjective at best even within the community of experts of medicine.
Once you have cancer though by definition, your immune system doesn't attack it.
So, debating retorical, theoretical, and subjective grey areas can go on forever.
Immune system should be part of the answer to any successful outcome of cancer.
DMSO however has shown the restore normal aerobic function as witnessed by xrays done during a very well-known study where it initially was used to enhance these xrays. Without immune system support or detox.
Cesium Chloride study also to note. Keith Brewers study had 100% response rate.
That's pretty significant! Also without immune support and detoxification.
Vitamin c infusions have 70% success rate, according to those practitioners (M.D.'s)
Without immune or detox therapies.
Generally, any protocol that excludes immune system therapy is inferior strategy.
But all of these above mentioned therapies, are considered detox and immune therapies to one degree or another.
What my concern is, when people read from so-called experts, that a product treats the immune system, supports the immune system, detoxifies the immune system they grap onto that one concept and treat it as the answer. Sometimes its all they can afford.
Well, active disease is just that,...active. My father died from cancer and he was exposed to long term radiation. How do I detoxify radiation, or infectious sources of cancer?
I really don't want people seeking immune therapies for cancer at the expense of higher percentage targetted therapies attacking respiratory and ph of the active disease.
I mean, at some point, cancer reaches a point of no return and all the therapies in the world become next to pointless.
So, sometimes I make writings that prioritize oxygenation over immune system. But, like I said, all the killer cells in the world are useless against active cancer, just by definition alone! Also,...immune system should be part of the equation idealy.
So, when discussing and encouraging people to not ignore some very important therapies I will alway have to prioritize which therapies to start first, choose first.
Also, affordability is a huge issue. You take as many therapies as you can afford sometimes. Those who can afford more therapies take more therapies.
Many people have to choose which ones they are going to leave out.
Please don't leave out oxygen and ph by focusing on immune and detox.
Many, many,many of the oxygen therapies detox anyway and that is proven.
Oxygen therapies detox!!!
Oxygen therapies also support the immune system directly. So they are immune therapies.
Any fast deviding, energy using metabolic process in our bodies requires oxygen.
The bone marrow especially,...Why is it so engorged with blood vessels? Oxygen.
Why are the lungs so engorged with blood vessels? Oxygen.
Why do people get gangrene with no circulation to an injury,...Oxygen!
Why does cancer burn glucose so rapidly? It's not limitted by the supply of oxygen because it is anaerobic. It doesn't use oxygen, it hates oxygen!
How profound!
Oh,....sorry!.... back to oleandrin.
I am truly enlightened by once again, another substance being used successfully, (albeit not 100% successfully,) and that all of these treatments seem to be doing the same thing again, including oleandrin.
Increasing intercellular oxygen levels! Wow! What great news.
Thanks for your wonderful postings.
Bret
ps.
What about toxicity and dosing.
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