With all due respect (and with the most restraint I can summon)...your statements about the Incurables Program are TOTAL hogwash and they ABSOLUTELY prove your lack of knowledge about the program itself and the ability of the human body to heal itself EXTREMELY quickly when it's given everything it needs to heal itself in a NATURAL form, all at the same time.

Dr. Schulze cured over 9,000 patients of late stage cancer with the Incurables Program....with a 90%+ percent success ratio. And thousands (if not tens of thousands) more have cured themselves with this protocol.

>>>This program you are instututing is complicated, expensive, hard to follow, and a little too late for stage IV disease.
These programs are inferior in stage IV cancers.<<<

*I* am not instituting ANY "program"; I am assisting someone that has researched and chosen this program to cure their cancer. A little too late? :::huge smirk::: In the last years of his clinic Dr. Schulze SPECIALIZED in late stage cancer patients...he called them 'the walking dead'. They had massive tumors (most metastatic at that stage) and had already been given the "2-3 months at best, there's nothing more to be done, get your affairs in order" prognosis...and these patients had OUTLIVED that prognosis when they came to him. He SPECIALIZED in these patients & prognosis. And with THOSE patients, he accomplished 90%+ success/cure ratio.

Patients starting the program and doing it 'in full' are generally out of pain (or have a 75%+ reduction in pain) in less than 1-2 weeks...some within days. The Cold Sheet treatment alone has caused many to see a substantial reduction in tumor size in just one treatment. Perhaps you've heard about "induced fever" and it's known efficacy in curing cancer and ALL diseases? The cold sheet treatment is done weekly on the IP. This protocol has been used successfully for CENTURIES to cure "incurable diseases"; it's but one small part of the IP

Here's a good starting point for gathering information so you could start doing more "scientific research" to learn how effective and "clinically proven" this one part of the IP actually is.
http://www.alkalizeforhealth.net/therapeuticbaths.htm


Also, I responded quite fully regarding a previous post of yours regarding cayenne and your erroneous comments about cayenne:

//www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1207072#i

...and you've never even bothered to respond (I must assume that's because you had no evidence to support your erroneous claims). The purpose of Cayenne in the IP has far less to do with polyphenols and far MORE to do with increasing circulation throughout the body (especially to the areas in question). You know, eh? Natural oxygen therapy! A proven, natural substance that not only blasts oxygen throughout the body (via blood circulation), but also happens to regulate/stabilize circulation throughout, heals/strengthens the heart, kills parasites, and assists to clean the arteries of plaque.

You obviously have NEVER researched the biological and physiological truths of the Incurables Program, nor do you know of the products (and PROTOCOLS) included.
For example, you say:

>>>Activated charcoal at night before going to bed can be consumed this absorbs toxins and gives your liver a break. Do not take with therapeutic substances as it will bind to them<<<<).

Well duh, EVERY patient doing the IP is taking both activated charcoal AND Bentonite clay on a daily basis. And Bentonite clay does NOT bind with the charcoal making it inactive.

Also, aside from the daily Intestinal Formula #2 (which contains charcoal & bentonite), Schulze also utilized charcoal slurries & poultices.

>>>I can feel safe in saying flushing the liver of a stage IV cancer patient will not kill cancer, uless it is liver cancer.<<<<

HUH? Why would you recommend activated charcoal to give the liver a break, but say that removing physical obstructions from the liver via Liver Flushing is only effective for liver cancer??? Cancer never appears unless the liver is somehow compromised. I believe both Gerson and Schulze reported they've never seen a case of cancer outside the presence of a compromised liver...and I know many other healers ("natural" and otherwise) that agree.

>>>Holy Cow! Cancer is like a strep infection. You can't waiste too much time trying to figure out why you got an infection, trying to reverse conditions that made you susceptable to infection, waiting to see if your protocols worked. You must treat the infection now! There really isn't enough time for trial and error.<<<

Removing the CAUSE of the disease IS the ONLY TRUE CURE of ANY disease. And removing the cause quickly is very effective and quickly removing the disease.

>>>
Holy Cow! Cancer is like a strep infection. You can't waiste too much time trying to figure out why you got an infection, trying to reverse conditions that made you susceptable to infection, waiting to see if your protocols worked. You must treat the infection now! There really isn't enough time for trial and error.
Well, strep can kill you in a few days if not treated. So this above protocol then would not seem appropriate if it were instituted in a time sensative illness.
Stage IV cancer is the same then. You are in a race. The point of no return is very near if not already past.<<<

Do you have ANY IDEA how "FEAR" (like what you inspire in the above comments) adversely effects the immune system, via the negative impact on neuropeptides and neurotransmitters? Obviously NOT! The minute one starts the IP program the body is given everything it needs to start restoring itself immediately. Quite frankly, your outlook on cancer and the 'fear cards' you play sound exactly like allopathic medicine. If you "knew the cure" as well as I do, there'd be no need to inspire immune-destroying-fear in people that are fighting disease. The body is hard-wired to heal itself and it WILL, and it will CONSISTENTLY...but only if it's given EVERYTHING it needs, all at the same time (biologically, physiologically, mentally, emotionally & spiritually)...and the IP program addresses all of these things.

We're not talking "trial & error" here, we're talking about a full program that has consistently worked in late stage cancer (and ALL "incurable diseases).

>>>>Detox regimes, diet, complicated regimes are to slow to work, too hard to fine tune, too hard to see if they are working soon enough. If they do not work, how much time was waisted discovering such? What treatment do you do next? How long will this take?<<<<

You've OBVIOUSLY never even read the full 600+ pages of the Save Your Life Incurables Program manual. I'd suggest that perhaps you'd find it more "professional" to learn about what you're speaking of before making disparaging remarks (that are founded in lack of knowledge about which you speak). ???

>>>I have some very serious recomendations for you. These things are cheap, effective, and have clincal data supporting their effectiveness.<<<

SURPRISE! Virtually everything you suggest IS done in the IP! Only it's done in a natural way that the NATURAL BODY responds to most quickly and effectively.

>>>>Take one tablespoon of chlorophyll three times daily with large glass of H20. Detox by chlorophyll is not theory, it is proven in lab. studies. They could not induce cancer in cell lines if chlorophyll is used. The same with DMSO.<<<<

Hmmm, on the IP, one is taking 4-6 tablespoons daily of a Superfood mix that contains:
Spirulina, Chlorella, Wheat Grass, Barley Grass, Alfalfa & Spinach leaf...I think Schulze had the "chlorophyll thing" covered. And lo & behold, he didn't need it to be "lab proven" to know that it works!

>>>and then go to feed store and by DMSO. Dirt cheap!<<<
There's no need to subject a body that is already compromised to an isolated chemical compound with side-effects like this:

http://tinyurl.com/5cgx6v

...when one can easily accomplish the action of DMSO with truly NATURAL products & protocols that are safe, effective, and do NOT cause the body to have to expend unnecessary energy doing the "biological mutations" necessary to convert the chemical into something usable while be compromised by the side-effects.

>>>These detox substances start to work immediately, Are cheap! They can be started now. Two of these detox agents are fantastic oxygen donors. They are using chlorophyll in photodynamic therapy now,(AMA,) so oxygen may in fact cure.<<<

Oxygen, chlorophyll, photodynamic therapy. Well, the IP has it all covered. One must spend 30 minutes daily in NATURAL sunlight, preferably naked (sunlight, you know right? that's the kind of light therapy that just happens to work best with the NATURAL body). Oxygen therapy. You've obviously never heard of the daily deep breathing, daily hot/cold contrast showers, daily aerobic exercise (and how cayenne/ginger effect complete circulation/oxygenation of the human body). Of course, the oxygen level in our atmosphere HAS declined substantially since the IP program was used by Dr. Schulze clinically, and there's no doubt in my mind that if he were still in clinical practice he would have added even MORE "oxygen supplementation" to the IP. Just fyi, I always suggest using some form of H202 or Ozone in whatever way it's easiest for the person to utilize it (H202 baths are FANTASTIC). Every "body" is different, that's why the program includes the constant admonition to "listen to your body" and adjust/add protocols as your body is telling you it needs them. Perhaps that doesn't fit your "need" for "scientific, clinical evidence", but it's been proven to work well for well over ten thousand people. And while anecdotal evidence is not a "proof", enough anecdotal stories adds up to empirical evidence.

>>>>Also, Cesium Chloride has %100 success rate in the very first clinical trials conducted. (Dr. Brewer)This is unheard of, especially in cancer. Who can knock this response.You can buy cesium for $60 per month. Take 2 grams with food, three time daily.Will shoot your internal ph of cells up to 7.5 or 8. This opens up cell membrane to oxygen perfusion, and cancer hates oxygen and higher ph. (Koch/Brewer/Warburg)<<<<

Of course "cancer hates oxygen" (all anaerobic 'life forms' usually do, eh?) There is NO NEED to subject the body to the stress and imbalances caused by Cesium Chloride. And as Gerson proved/documented QUITE clearly, "killing the cancer" BEFORE the liver was adequately able to deal with the volatile toxins released by the dying cancer, resulted in unnecessary complications and even death. (Hence the 1-4 coffee enemas daily in the Gerson Protocol). And for you to recommend it as you did (with how to take it and how much to take) WITHOUT providing information that I've pasted below from Cancer Tutor) is WORSE than irresponsible, it has the potential to be life-threatening. There's no need when healing the body for substances like this that carry so much potential for harm and risk of serious complications. Chemically altering pH (when the body is so acidic it cannot alter it for itself), detoxing cells & tissue before the organs of neutralization and elimination can handle the load, doing things in the wrong order with chemicals and isolated substances, these things all carry great risk and potential for harm. While they may indeed "kill the cancer" (as do chemotherapy & radiation), they're no more natural than the latter...and when they are no longer utilized? There's no reason the cancer won't return...because one has never eliminated the CAUSE of the cancer.


http://www.cancertutor.com/Cancer/Alkaline.html

*****You should have your blood uric acid, electrolytes, potassium, magnesium, calcium and sodium levels checked at least once every 2 or 3 weeks, even if you take the recommended dosage of potassium and Coral Calcium. The potassium may become too high or too low or the magnesium or calcium levels may become too low (you must take the Coral Calcium for the calcium and magnesium)!! Uric acid levels, which can damage the kidneys if they become too high, rise due to the amount of DNA released by the dead cancer cells. At 3 grams of ionic cesium chloride a day, it is unlikely the uric acid levels will rise very much, but if they do the drug Xyloprim can take care of the problem. Furthermore, hypokalemia (too LITTLE potassium in the blood serum) and hyperkalemia (too MUCH potassium in the blood serum), can lead to a dangerous irregular heartbeat! Contact your physician if increased fatigue, irregular heartbeat, or significant blood pressure changes occur during treatment.*****

*****The Side Effects and Symptoms of This Treatment

As mentioned above, the combination of cesium chloride and DMSO is very potent. There are many possible side-effects and symptoms of its use. Some of these side-effects are harmless and will probably go away. Others are potentially dangerous.

It is absolutely critical to become VERY familiar with all of these items.

Inflammation, Swelling and Pain Where Concentrations of Cancer Cells Are

Of all of the symptoms and side-effects of the Cesium Chloride Protocol, this is the most dangerous for certain types of cancer. When the cesium chloride gets into a cancer cell, the cancer cells starts getting "sick" from starvation. Up until this point the body's immunity system has largely ignored the cancer cells for a variety of reasons. However, when the cancer cells become sick, the immunity system recognizes them as cancer cells (i.e. sick cells) and starts to take action. This action may cause serious inflammation and pain.

All Stage IV cancer patients will experience some inflammation, however, in many cases, depending mainly on the type of cancer, the inflammation will be severe and will result in pain. But it is not the enlarging of a tumor or the pain that is dangerous, it is the possibility that the temporarily enlarged tumor may block the flow of key fluids in the body. For example, in the brain or pancreas a temporarily enlarged tumor may block the flow of blood or bile, respectively. If you find yourself in this situation, you may need medical attention.

One thing that may help is taking DMSO both with cesium chloride (as usual) AND taking DMSO and/or MSM by themselves a few hours later. These products are known to help reduce inflammation and pain. Key enzyme products, such as Vitalzym or 10Zymes (10Zymes is the product Essenses of Life includes in most of their packages), may also help reduce inflammation and pain.*****

And you say this about the IP? >>>>This program you are instututing is complicated, expensive, hard to follow,<<<< It sure the heck ain't life threatening!

In the book "Biological Transmutations" (authored by Nobel/physics nominee Louis Kervran) he shows & proves just how the body reacts to all these isolated substances.
For example Na + O = K (not in a test tube, but in the human body). It is EASY to throw the balance of minerals into a dangerous imbalance when we're using Science that's totally 'test tube based' (as clearly evidenced in the warnings from Cancer Tutor). There is NO POSSIBILITY of these kinds of dangerous & life threatening reactions when utilizing the Incurables Program.

First, physician...do NO harm.

>>>Finally, whole aloe vera is very, very healthy treatment. Whole aloe contains quinones which are oxygen donors. ALso contains immune stimulants that actually increase white cell production accross the entire spectrum of white cell population.<<<

The IP program uses aloe vera topically, orally and via retention enema (as needed or discerned by the person doing the program). It's not only an oxygen donor, it also contains allatonin, which promotes the growth and regrowth of all tissue at the cellular level.

The most effect natural immune system supplement is echinacea; it is a daily part of the IP (these are "explanation links", you can find the clinical proofs randomly via the 'net...the problem with these 'proofs & trials' is that most do NOT utilize the whole plant, rather they utilize isolated extracts...without all the natural phytochemicals so necessary for the proper & effective in the human body)


http://healingtools.tripod.com/imnhbs.html#ech+


http://www.kcweb.com/herb/echin.htm

Herbal Information Center-Echinacea - Herbs

http://www.alive.com/1976a5a2.php?subject_bread_cramb=531

Dispelling Myths About Echinacea :: Holistic Healing :: Herbal Remedies :: A-F :: echinacea (Echinacea purpurea)

http://healthyherbalist.com/nl_echinacea.html

NL ECHINACEA -
http://www.HealthyHerbalist.com


http://content.herbalgram.org/wholefoodsmarket/herbalgram/articleview.asp?a=702

ECHINACEA: A LITERATURE REVIEW; BOTANY, HISTORY, CHEMISTRY, PHARMACOLOGY, TOXICOLOGY, AND CLINICAL USES.

http://holisticonline.com/Cancer/Cancer_echinacea-2_herb-rem.htm

Cancer, echinacea, Natural Herbal Remedies for Cancer, echinacea, 2, Holisticonline.com


>>So also remember,some detox programs are LAXATIVES OR DIURETICS. I don't think these have much track record curing cancer.<<<

There are no diuretics on the IP (unless one needs them for symptom control, and those are herbal and natural). The use of herbal laxatives in the IP is specifically for making sure the bowels move daily and effectively eliminate waste/toxins. Basic 3rd grade science: "no living organism can sustain life unless it can assimilate nutrients and expel waste effectively"

>>>Also, vitamin c is so very important. Please start patient on buffered vitamin c. He must get three to four thousand mg. with every meal and at bedtime. This is minnimum dosage. VItamin c does so many different anti cancer things it is not funny! Any cancer protocol that does not use vitamin c is inferior.<<<

Oh sure, let's throw some mega doses of Vitamin C in there with the DMSO, Cesium Chloride and all the other isolated, imbalancing, unnatural chemicals and protocols you've suggested. Yes indeedy, Vitamin C has been proven to cure cancer, but when the Vitamin C is gone, the cancer returns...because the CAUSE of the cancer was never addressed.

For your knowledge bank: Ascorbic Acid Is Not Vitamin C

http://www.thedoctorwithin.com/vitaminC/Ascorbic-Acid-Is-Not-Vitamin-C.php



>>>For the exact protocols you should contact me!
I can't tell you how important it is to get going on the right therapy and soon.
I can't tell how important it is to target alkalinity and oxygen therapies.
Cayenne pepper is high in polyphenols, this is an oxygen therapy, however stomach tolerances become an issue. ALso, dosing is an issue. If polyphenols are the therapeutic elements in cayenne then how much are you actually getting.
If you are sold on cayenne, then switch to olive leaf extract. Hundreds of times more potent polyphenols than cayenne without stomach issues. Make sense?<<<

It all may make sense (to you) "scientifically", but the human body is not a test-tube. You obviously do NOT have knowledge of the immense positive effects of cayenne and have no idea that olive leaf extract contains none of them (at least, not for the reason cayenne is utilized in the IP). You continue to erroneously state that cayenne causes stomach damage, when it actually heals tissue. You've obviously never even glanced at the full IP program (via the Save Your Life manual & videos, not the baseline information available on the internet), and you have no idea how incredibly & miraculously the body actually responds to full nutrition, healing herbs, natural oxygen protocols, organ cleansing & detoxing...when the program is utilized in the correct order. Sheesh, the echinacea alone (also a daily part of the IP) has been known to bolster the immune system so strongly that it has cured cancer single-handedly (it is so effective as an immune system strengthener that Native Americans used it successfully for rabies and rattlesnake bites).

Might I ask (rhetorically), compared to Dr. Schulze curing 9,000 people directly, and thousands of more indirectly, just what is your level of hands-on CLINICAL EXPERIENCE? Exactly how many people have you worked with individually/directly and cured their cancer, and what was your success ratio? And how many of them stayed cancer free and for how long?

Your methodology and suggested protocols are "science based alternative treatments". They are based on a Science that has been proven (time and time and time again) to be erroneous. Our modern "science" does not address pleomorphism; it does not address somatids, it still believes in Pasteur's "theory" (which he recanted himself and has been proven erroneous), and it does not address the simple "biological mutation" so completely shown/proven by Kervran.

You and I? ..will always butt heads. While I'm sure our intent IS the same (that we deisre to help others and save their lives). You choose to utilize "science"; I choose to utilize "natural". I've already researched the "science" to be a "hit & miss" combination; you've obviously never fully examined/researched the "natural".

Does "alternative medicine based on allopathic medicine" cure cancer? Sometimes. Is it 'easier' for most people to utilize? Almost always.
Does it result in COMPLETE remission? Rarely
Is it better than chemotherapy/radiation? Always.

But there are people out there that want to be truly cured; they want to be rid of the CAUSE of the cancer, not just the symptom. And those are the people I help, assist and support.

I do not involve myself in threads based on "alternative medicine" that are Science based cures for disease, because I respect the choice of the individual to utilize them. Occasionally I may suggest that there are more natural approaches, but I never involve myself, play "fear cards" and attempt to sway people with life-threatening diseases away from the protocols they believe in and have chosen to utilize.

Because even though it can never be scientifically proven, "belief" may be the factor that makes ALL the difference.

I would respectfully request that until you gain more complete information about truly natural cures that you refrain from dismissing and attempting to disprove protocols of which you seemingly know very little.

Fear IS the opposite of victory, and anyone fighting a life-threatening disease deserves to proceed without fear, utilizing the protocols and methodology in which they believe. ESPECIALLY when the protocol they choose (the IP Program) has as much or more empirical evidence of success as anything "alternative science" has to offer.

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