What you post flies in the face of thousands of others experience. Those are the two best colloidal silver products in existence, with the smallest particle sizes and greatest surface area and not only do they have hundreds and hundreds of unsolicited testimonials, It certainly does not mirror my own experience, nor that of a great many other CZ members, and I personally know a great number of people they have helped tremedously in a wide variety or conditions.
What were your conditions and symptoms that you say mesosilver and utopia silver did not help?
Do you have any relationship with any of the other silver companies? Such as silver solutions?
DQ
I can tell you it is useless against Bartonella ( a Lyme coinfection) from: http://www.personalconsult.com/bartonella/
I don't dispute you - but are you saying that you personally have tried it against Bartonella, and if so what brand and how much did you try? Or are you simply relying on information from that website?
Do you have a more precise link to anything on that site that specifically says the either Utopia Silver of Mesosilver are ineffective.
Thanks,
DQ
Newport, what is your basis for stating that colloidal silver does not kill all Lyme? Although for first time users, colloidal silver may take some time to build up in one's system and therefore to work, once it is built up in the tissues and the person is on a steady daily regimen, I have never seen it fail.
In no way would I classify the benefits of Utopia Silver colloidal silver as "mild." The healing potential is enormous and it packs a huge punch on all types of pathogens. Unless you have convincing newsbreaking information that I am not aware of, I am going to include all types of Lyme in its healing capabilities.
Warm regards,
Luella
My questions:
Utopia Silver and Mesosilver were not mentioned. Only Silver Gen. For diseases such as Crohns, Lymes, Fibromyalgia, HIV, Herpes, Cancer, Candida, Strep, MRSA, etc.., high quality colloidal silver is recommended. Utopia Silver's colloidal silver has a colloidal content of 85% and an ionic content of 15% as opposed to home made colloidal silver which has a an ionic content of 85% and a colloidal content of 15%. Myself, I will use nothing besides Utopia Silver and I can give you my shining testimonies as to how I have circumvented the flu, pneumonia, and an infection after a tooth extraction. Before colloidal silver, the flu would mean automatic pneumonia or if I was lucky a respiratory infection. My overall health and energy have never been better.
My second question is how long did this person take the silver, although again I will state it was not the highest quality and first time users need time for the silver to build up in their bodies.
So no, Newport, I am not at all convinced and I do have personal experience with Utopia Silver colloidal silver.
Oh, and I forgot to mention the fibromyalgia. That is gone too.
"Believe nothing just because a so-called wise person said it. Believe nothing just because a belief is generally held. Believe nothing just because it is said in ancient books. Believe nothing just because it is said to be of divine origin. Believe nothing just because someone else believes it. Believe only what you yourself test and judge to be true" ... Buddha
Yep, worked for me.
Warm regards,
Luella
"Sure sounds like a sales pitch to me." "no need to sell its benefits"
Sure sounds like a bit of a put-down to me! If she is "selling", where is the affiliate link?
Perhaps CS is not a cure everytime for Lymes - though what you used was homemade ionic silver with about 1/500th of the surface area of the Utopia Silver product at equal PPM. If it is not a 100% cure for Lymes, it surely has been successful a great many times with Lymes. Just as it has been successful for Crohns, MRSA, staph, fibromyalgia, and a great many other conditions.
I know this forum is mostly the "make your own ionic silver forum" instead of a "Colloidal Silver forum, but when it comes to the really serious diseases there is just no comparison.
Let me ask you: if the Budwig diet were promoted as a potential cure for cancer, and it worked on some cancers and not on others, would it be false to recommmend it as a potential cure for cancer? If CS works for many forms of Lymes would it not be worthwhile to try?
I might point out that of all the colloidal silver companies, only Utopia Silver has stepped up to the plate and become a sponsor of CureZone - and they did so at my urging because the owner is a lifelong friend and I told him that CureZone was a good and worthy commuity to support. For those of you who remember my earlier articles, the owner Ben Taylor and Utopia Silver have been standing in the front lines of the fight for health freedom for the past three and half years.
Most importantly for members health concerns, Utopia Silver absolutely does make a superior colloidal silver.
DQ
I am not selling a product here, I am defending a product. You may be correct, but you are comparing large particle homemade ionic silver with 1/500th the surface area and efficiency to ultra small particle colloidal silver, and so you might not be correct. Given the gravity of the possible consequences I appreciate your information and I will include it in my recommendations for Lyme's. There is no need for you to take potshots simply because someone does not readily agree with you 100%. Unless of course you are taking the shots at Chris10 in the Politics or Conspiracy forums, in which case I will join you.
Peace,
DQ
If that were true, then Utopia Silver and Mesosilver would be using that process and saving a ton of money - the owner of MesoSilver is an MIT educated person who was a contractor for NASA and one of the most knowledgeable people in the world when it comes to colloidal silver. You would think he would have known and just be using an ordinary silver maker with added ascorbic acid instead of investing half a million dollars in developing a better way to make colloidal silver based at least in part (the key part) on the concept of the present owner of Utopia, who knows a thing or two about colloidal silver himself.
For that matter, you would think that all those other companies that turn out mostly ionic silver would also have figured out that all they needed to do was put a dash of ascorbic acid in their products instead of making dubious claims about their products or suspending them artificially in animal gelatin.
What ascorbic acid does is oxidize colloidal silver. You know, like in "corrodes". THAT accounts for the change in color of ionic silver treated with ascorbic acid. All one has to do is Google "ascorbic acid oxidizes silver" to get plenty of conformation. Or place some of your home silverware in water with ascorbic acid added.
In other words what you are telling us is that you have a really good machine that you make some good quality ionic silver with - which you proceed to into essentially corroded tarnished silver.
DQ