"i also like to know what i am taking"

like ur some model of perfection mr coffee and purple cream. and u don't ever eat any food from the grocery store? u have a lab to test everything that goes past ur flapping gums?

How do you know that he lied about owning a clinic?


I can tell Charlie's a business man but personally I'm sure he knows his sh1t just from the articles he has posted. You can tell he has extensive knowledge of herbs and alternative medicine.. He seems like someone who has a great product and people are just hating on him for no reason..

I've only been in this section of curezone for a week or so but from what I've read in Charlie's posts it seems his approach to curing health problems would work. Its been proven that digestive problems are a huge contributer to negative health issues, if the liver gets a boost that should be able to help re-balance the body.

Has anyone else had a bad experience with one of his tonics?


-MtL

How do you know Charlie is lying about his practice? Not mentioning his origin in the medical field is his prerogative, just like other owners here who chose not to describe what they do before coming here.

I knew about the flooring business before he started this forum. This shouldn't affect anyone's judgement about his knowledge of herbs to heal the liver.

I was here in CZ only for 1-2 years but what Charlie posted about the liver/bile action made more sense than wading thru 50 pages of posts at the LF forums. Stimulating bile release (harshly) is not the same as enhancing bile production. No one mentioned this point at all at LF forums. Liver flush is akin to pressurized dry plumbing to remove silt!

But I agree he should demonstrate the efficacy of the liver tonic and his knowledge to the purists. This forum and the liver tonic concept is new for many. This shouldn't be hard to achieve. A small sample tonic lasting for a few days should temporarily relieve those with chronic constipation, although not in a painful laxative manner. People do eat daily and BMs should be timely and regular. But chronic cases lasts for days, sometimes close to a week. If the tonic works, the effects should be strikingly visible. (Although I'm frustrated I can't get the tonic due to customs & shipping here, sigh.)

People get cheated when they approach something out of fear, greed or desperation of a quick fix (it's greed mostly). Seek clarification on the subject before committing, on a cool head. It does not matter what the "seller" wants, what's important is what you seek and how you do it. Learn and ask questions before going into it, not after.

I can understand why Charlie guards his formula. It could be due to regulations or basic human nature. I've seen worse in older TCM geezers, while having no one to pass their knowledge to (no successor), and cannot tolerate the competition knowing their hard-earned secrets, took their medical knowledge to their graves. It's a real pity because many people are ill and unable to find permanent relief. This wouldn't happen if they are given proper recognition for their accomplishments. Internet is not the place for this generation of folks. A book is a good idea and benefits humankind as well.

Food for thought : Why does a student seek a teacher? Because of the desire to change (one's way of thinking). If it's knowledge you seek, books in a library offers more. A student trying to change the teacher to align with his own thinking is laughable.

Maurice

I for one would never buy any herbal combination/tonics without knowing what was in it. I think I read in one of the posts, that the liver tonic had iron in it. I'm not positive about this, so don't shoot me. So if this is true and I took the liver tonic without knowing it had iron in it, would have been toxic for me because you see, I have Hemochromatosis (Iron Overload Disease). Not knocking the tonic but the ingredients should be made known. I'm sure i'm not the only one on Curezone that is allergic or sensitive to an herb or certain supplements. Just my 2 cents.