i need advice for intestinal cleansi... 
yukisan
16 y
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Hi,
I have suffer from bad breath since I was a child and had to suffer all the humiliation that comes with it. I've just found this forum and I feel already excited about all the new things I can try. So I feel I've found new hope. So far I have only used products for bad breath ( evrything!!!!) they work for a short period of time and then the smell comes back. After reading for the last two days as many messages and all the website suggested here to get a good idea of what TMA is,I have come to the conclusion that it's my case. I will ofcourse go to the doctor to confirm but I don't think that would go far since doctors here in uk are not too concernd about "cosmetic problems". However, I like to start as soon as poss with whatever I need to do to get on with the treatment. So, here is where I will need help from some of you.
Firstable, cleansing; I am not sure how to do this. Do I need to start fasting for few days (how many?). Take some cleansing products? (how long?) while fasting? Do I need to start on the acidophillus as soon as cleansing is finish?
Second; I have got already charcol, vitamin B2, and acidophillus but cannot find here UK copper chlorophyll , any suggestions of where can I get this?
I am sorry that I am only asking advice but I promise that as soon as I start all my new journey into this treatment I will post any new findings.
So far I can say that Therabreath (imported from america) product probed so far to be good to keep the smell on edge. Probiotics (I imported them from australia- $$$) was a dissapointment. Thank you all
yukisan
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- Re: i need advice for intestinal cle... mpdela
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This is a reply to # 1,132,964Hi yukisan,
I'm sorry I don't live in the UK, so I couldn't tell you where to get the products. I'm sure someone else who lives there could help you with that. I do highly recommend that you avoid expensive products. There really is no need for them. Read the ingredients of these expensive products, and you’ll see that you can get the same ingredients at your local health food store, pharmacy, or online with other less advertised manufacturers.
I can, however, give you some other info about intestinal cleansing. There is a whole forum dedicated to that, which I'm sure is rich in information.
Bowel Cleanse Support: Intestinal Cleanse Support Forum
I bet they have alot of info on how to best cleanse your intestines safely. A very effective way that I’ve tried in the past is doing a one full day of fruit juices and water, and you can rub Castor Oil on your lower abdomen overnight. Do this when you don’t have to go to work or school the following morning, since it will be cleaning you out very well, and you'll need to stay home for that.
I would think that there are 2 very important phases to this. The first is to clean out as much as possible in a healthy natural manner (avoiding using drugs), and I would do so until you feel well-cleansed and if you can, get feedback from someone about what your odor level is. Usually, once the intestines are thoroughly cleansed, the odor goes away with it within a few days after your blood cleans out as well, so drink alot of water.
The second phase is the tricky part. How to rebuild the gut without bringing back the odor??? That is the question! That depends on what the CAUSE of your odor is. I suggest that you read my posting entitled See scientist42 postings re other metabolic cond similar to TMAU. If you go to the Search box on the upper right corner of the CureZone posting pages, write his username, scientist42, and it'll give you some of his postings. Open any of them, and click on his user name which gives you his CureZone Profile. Click Date on R messages only, and it will give you his 3 most important and informative postings. You can also click on Date on All Messages to read all his postings.
Basically, scientist42 says that not all liver-enzyme abnormalities produce TMAU requiring a low-choline diet, but you could also have other liver enzymes affected which may not process amino acids [PROTEINS] well.
Here’s the catch, if you indeed have TMAU, then you need to start with A low choline diet: See the list posted by the U.S. Department of Agriculture, http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/Data/Choline/Choline.pdf., which indicate the choline contents of many foods. Also see http://rarediseases.info.nih.gov that explains everything about Trimethylaminuria (TMAU).
If your condition is more a mutation of other liver enzymes resulting in poor processing of amino acids, then you need to avoid meats, as he explains on his postings. As he says, there are many liver enzymes, and any one or more of them could be the culprit of your odor.
So…what to do? Well, after a day of cleansing, you might want to look at the list of low-choline diet and begin eating foods that are not meat products. The slower you introduce each new food – one at a time, the better control you’ll have of determining which produces odor or not. If you see that meat products produce your odor, then, stay away from them. If you see that higher choline foods produce your odor, stay away from them. This should help you a lot.
Let us know how you do.
mpdela
Hi yukisan,
I know I said to avoid using drugs during the cleansing process, and I am a firm believer that natural is best, but the U.S. National Institute of Health, under rare diseases page, http://rarediseases.info.nih.gov/GARD/QnA.aspx?PageID=4&CaseID=21258&... says to take low doses of antibiotics to reduce the amount of bacteria in the gut to suppress the production of trimethylamine. My son and Marx (see his recent posting) used them, and it helped remove odor with the cleansing process.
Also with the cleansing process, using soaps with a moderate pH, between 5.5 and 6.5 helps restore a healthy skin. Trimethylamine is a strong base (pH 9.8), thus soaps with pH closer to that of normal skin help retain the secreted trimethylamine in a less volatile form that can be removed by washing.
Best of luck,mpdela
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- Re: i need advice for intestinal cle... yukisan
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This is a reply to # 1,132,988dear mpdela
Thank you very much for such a prompt response and so detailed. I have a good idea of what to do. I started my cleansing at the weekend and started with the charcol, B2 and Antibiotics . However can't get chlorophill so until I get it will continue without it. Well after a day of cleansing and a day of eating only fruit and some rice cakes and drinking plenty of water I realized that for some reson I can notice my smell. Before I knew I smell only by the way people reacted as I started to speak. In the last two days I can smell myself, I think I read about someone feel frustrated because this treatment made him/her smell worse. However, I am not concern because I think there is an initial reaction in the body that makes the problem get worse before it gets better. I am not sure... But I will continue with the treatment and post any changes.
Thank you aswell for the information about scientist42. It is good to know that there is a group in UK .. As soon as I have time I will post them.
take care
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This is a reply to # 1,134,825Hi yukisan,
Congratulations with your efforts. I wish you the very best.
About sensing that your odor is getting worse before getting better, remember that the toxicity has been in your blood, sweat, and virtually your cells for quite sometime. Usually a cleansing regimen begins to give your body the welcomed opportunity to finally try to cleanse itself out now that the gut is no longer throwing toxins into the bloodsteam. In that cleansing process, your sinuses might be clearing up a bit more, and you are then able to smell yourself better. Also, the body cleans itself out by utilizing the largest organ we have - our skin. It is sweating out all the smelling toxins. Once that process is successfully completed, you will have a clean gut, clean blood, skin, and cells, and hopefully become odor-free.
Remember to begin introducing low-choline foods slowly one by one afterwards. At first, try to avoid meats or high protein foods until your odor is gone, in case your protein-digesting liver enzymes are not working properly, thus resulting in undigested food that produce odor again. Then, after you feel odor-free, introduce the lower-choline chicken & meats one by one to see how your body reacts. Strive to create a well balanced diet that your body can deal with.
About the chlorophyllin, it is recommended that you take it with zinc because it contains copper, and the zinc somehow neutralizes the copper. This is the most expensive of the supplements, and if you buy it together, the chlorophyllin and the zinc, it could cost you $18.00 at
http://www.smartbomb.com/le00601.html.
If you want to get a much cheaper chlorophyllin that also contains Alfalfa Powder but doesn't contain no zinc, it will cost you $6.48 at
http://store.thecatalog.com/2645.html.
You can then purchase the zinc on the side at any pharmacy or even grocery store.
I wish you luck with this. Thanks for giving me your update. It's good to hear how you're doing.
mpdela
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This is a reply to # 1,134,825Hello yukisan,
I'm also on my first day of cleansing and for some odd reason, I can smell myself. I mean I've had whiffs of it before but now I can smell it constantly. The smell for other people is prolly 100 times worse than what I smell though.
I'm hoping this will finally put a stop to this embarassing illness so I can move on with my life and have social interaction. Let me know how your cleanse is going, everyone should keep posting their results here.
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there are SO many ways to cleanse, you should really do what you feel is most comfortable
some people recommend a TWO WEEK fast before cleansing, which i think is a little extreme
i didnt fast at all, i just maintained a good diet when i was cleansing..recently i have used Oxypowder for an intestinal cleanse and i saw great results, i also used colonix/toxinout as well.
just make sure to keep up with acidopholous/probiotics so things dont get too out of whack. take care
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