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The question is...   by philip kelleher   17 year 1 of 1 (100%)

For me, the question is, not whether anyone has ever talked to God, ( for we all do in our own way, as we  All  ARE the Body of God here  on Earth) the question for Humankind is,  do we Listen for the reply?     

In the stillness of our Hearts will be found the only 'evidence'  of the                 Divine and  we then may see it reflected Everywhere.    

The most profound and clear Teachings I have found are at :                                  AskRealJesus .com                                                                                                                       I invite you to go there and let your Heart  feel if this is for You.                                           ~  Philip 

"You must be the change you wish to see in the world"  ~  Gandhi

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God is love   by rudenski   18 year 1 of 1 (100%)

In this world there are a lot of people saying they know God but do they? It would serve God more to be a "Good Samaritan"(Who was a non-believer) than to be a believer who does not serve love. The moral code the Good Samaritan had is superior to the moral code of believers who say they believe but do not do what they say. That said, most all of our intetions are not as pure as the Good Samaritans. But it is an ideal worth aspiring to for believers. In my experience with death, I found that our ill intentions
vanish before the light of God's love and only our loving kindness, joy, and best intentions make it into the place where time ends. All other records are purged at the end of time. If one is going to make one's mark on what is timeless, then one should be busy filling one's lives with as much loving kindness, joy, and loving intentions as we can muster in each life that we all live... It is who we are in the abscence of time...

I think it is useful to believe in God who is love because a dialog can be created that is worth having...Friendships and relationships are even important in timelessness but when that dialog starts telling us to do things beyond the scope of loving kindness, joy, and loving intentions...then we are following another god...

Who would you want as your neighbor? A moral atheist or an amoral believer?
I would just assume be a moral atheist than be a believer who was a follower after the abscence of loving kindness, joy, and loving intentions... Love is all that remains when time ends so love...


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Not yet   by quigleysdad   18 year 1 of 1 (100%)

You're probably frustrated by the responses you've gotten to this point. If anyone tells you they've seen god take it with a huge grain of salt.Thats why things in this realm are called matters of faith. I've never seen an atom but we've all seen evidence of its awesome power. I can't see gravity but I don't dare try to deny its existence. In a world thats done its best to distance itself from an all powerful creator its understandable how someone would question god's existense or become jaded about a loving creator. When we kicked him out of our schools, our courts and our government he magnanomously stepped aside, being the gentleman that he is, and left us to our own devices. Its not that he's punishing us. Its just that we don't want him around. Please don't make the mistake of basing your belief in god on the circumstances that you experience in the temporal world. We are spiritual beings trapped for a season in a physical body. This body is subject to disease and dismay but only for a season. There is no growth or progression without pain. Jesus said our spirit can't be quickened unless it dies. A seed can't sprout until its planted.Be encouraged, if you're looking for proof you won't find it. But if you're looking for god he'll find you. Either way we'll all see him eventually
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Talked to or seen God   by His Herbs   18 year 2 of 2 (100%)

The question "Has anyone ever truly talked to God or seen hard evidence of Him/Her" brings a mental picture to mind. I think of two flea's on the back of a dog talking to one another. One says to the other, hey have you seen the dog? Why no I guess I haven't, where did he go the other one says, and they carry on a debate about the "dog" and if he really exist. All the while the "dog" is all around them and just can't see him. I know this sounds goofy and is not meant to be disrespectful, but it seems to me this is the case with many people.
The scriptures say that anyone who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of them that diligently seek Him. It also ask the question, where can I go to get away from God? If I climb the highest mountain He is there, if I descend to the lowest parts He is there, if I sail to the uttermost parts of the earth surely God is there also. The question should not be where is God. The greater question is where are you? I have read all of the responses to your question to date and am fascinated there there are so many general ideas but no definte answers. Have we become so separated from God in our search for truth that we buy into every wind of doctrine that blows bye? Can we not see the truth for what it is? Is there none that will stand up and with certainty say that there is one God, and one way to Him. Jesus said "I am the way the truth and the life and no one comes to the Father except through Me" We will not all wined up in the same place in the end and therefore it really doesn't matter what you think God is or isn't in this life. God has not hidden His plan from people. It is written for all to see. God does not desire for anyone to perish, but that all would come to repentance. Repentance of what I beg to ask? Repentance of our rejection of His Son and the very person of God Himself. If we come to God and repent of our sin and accept Jesus Christ as our personal savior, then niether death or life, or angels or pricipalities, or powers, or things present or things to come, or height or depth or any other created thing will be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. So where is God? Waiting for you my friend with open arms to come to Him. The question is, will you? Today is the day of salvation! You seek for truth. I've given it to you. Accept it and your eyes will be opened and you'll discover God was all around you all the time. Reject it and you will continue to walk in darkness.

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I met God in a Near Death Experience   by rudenski   18 year 2 of 3 (66%)

With all the conflicting information in the world and different opinions, has anyone ever truly talked to God or seen hard evidence of Him/Her

When you say Him/Her it reveals two things. That you are open minded enough to allow God to be whatever God is but the capitalized Him/Her lets me know you still have some internalized fear of some type of God you may have learned about from your upbringing.
Let me give you an example. If you were to go to a judge, you might call him "Sir" or "Your Honor" but when the judge comes home and talks to his children, do you think they call him "Sir" and "Your Honor?" We are all not just God's children but even more... God is like the best father ever that wants just what is best for you...he would never kick the shit out of you for what you do or abuse you if you deny him...just like a "real father" God just wants you to get back on track and will pull all kinds of strings to help you get there...and all the while you will think it was all you...and when you get full of yourself and deny your father...he will always be there for you when need him...God is greatest mother so much so that she never sees harm...whatever we do wrong it is not our fault...she doesn't even see anything but good in us. That is such an understatement...God loves us like a little infant or toddler...and God asks nothing of us but only to return that favor to our fellow man and when we love others like God loves us...God is joyful and is so very proud of us...
When we become comfortable enough with our relationship with God, we can put aside the pomp and ceremony and run to God and cry in God's arms and God wipe away our every tear...and we can lay our worries in God's lap...and then go back into the world of pain and fear and try again to overcome pain and fear. The god of this world is often called God and the religious people of the world so often attribute the title God to this other god. The god of this world is death and dying.

When we choose to enter this world, it is our choice to leave the tit of our mother God in heaven to play with death and dying. When we choose to enter the womb of the the earthly mother we choose, it is in rebellion of our heavenly father...but that is okay with God who is our father/mother. Just like an earthly father/mother, we want to see our children leave the nest and go out and do their best...and whatever good they do...that is good enough for them.

We could have stayed beside God but we have free-will and fell...into our mother's womb. But we were immortal beings before we ever entered our mother's womb and God knew us before we were born... We have free-will and even angels have free-will... but to learn the lessons of death and dying...we forget our father/mother in heaven and we leave to play with death and dying only somewhere along the way...God hopes we will learn about love... That may not be why we come to earth but that is how we can return to our heavenly father/mother's side. All roads lead back home though. In the end...we die...and return to our father/mother's side. The love we gave and the love we received makes the trip back home but everything else is cast away.

The object of a life well lived in my opinion is to give and receive as much love as we can while we live because this is what makes us who we are in heaven. There is a universal law of giving and receiving...you get back ten times what you give with love...so give love...

I met God one day after I died...and I returned to tell the tale. I am not alone though. With emergency room care, hundreds of thousands have returned from what would have once been to a grave to return in their bodies in Near Death Experiences. Most meet God or whatever religious icon or spiritual energy they could call "love" and by any other name, God is love.

If you want to read about my real encounter with God, I posted my Near Death Experience a few years ago in Curezone. It may not be the "proof" you are looking for but to me...it is all the proof I will ever need. I met God and it changed me...that is proof that something happened... but I will let you decide:
//www.curezone.org/forums/m.asp?f=206&i=298#i
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Really?   by vairnut   18 year 1 of 2 (50%)

How can one believe in a God who stands by and let's bad things happen to good people ? Who lets the world get into such a state of confusion and mayhem ? Let even the holy, innocent and chaste believers in the world be shot to death ( you heard about those little girls in Amish country PA? ) . Please explain this type of love that God supposedly has for this world . Would you stand by and let your children be exposed to any of these things if you were all powerful and all knowing ? Isn't this what God does ? If he's out there he's not doing much ,if anything . He doesn't seem to be an interactive or preventative God but from what I've read in the old testament he sure likes to react . He seems to have a knack for condemning and sending the imperfect off to eternal damnation . If God didn't make us perfect (although we're supposedly made in his likeness) then how can we be expected to not make mistakes ? Would you lock your child up in the closet for the rest of his life if he or she did something you said they should never do ? Aren't we supposed to be God's children ? Then there's the concept of faith . You're supposed to believe in something you can never see , touch , feel , hear or , as they like to do in the scientific community , measure, when you can't do any of the above mentioned. God could make it a lot easier for us to all get into heaven if he'd just show up (which he's never done by the way) . If he cared that much about us all that's just what he'd do too . That would certainly go a long way to remove any doubts any of us were having , wouldn't it ? For some reason he wants to remain the biggest mystery the world has ever supposedly known . But if he wants to make himself visible or perform some kind of irrefutable miracle that everyone can see at the same time then maybe I'll agree with you !
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allow God to be whatever God is   by Karlin   18 year 1 of 2 (50%)

When you wrote "open minded enough to allow God to be whatever God is" , it tweeked a thought in me about defining god. When various religious persuasions have different definitions of what god is, it must mean that many, some at least, of those definitions are limiting what god is, and that some of them must be wrong to do that.

Therefore, not defining god at all, no expectations, no limits either, would be honoring god the most. How can we have any connection to something that we are telling ourselves to no define? Perhaps thats true anyway, that we don't have a connection to god. Compare that to the connection animals have with god - they have NEVER intellectualised about god, no definitions at all. And yet, we presume animals and god are doing okay together, whereas humans must surely be dissapointing god with all the inhumane and violent and brutal things we do, especially disapointing would be those who claim to be believers but still commit acts of horror.

The solution for getting our relationship with god "right"? Don't try. Just live moraly. We don't meet him until we die, like rudenski did, so leave it until then.

I have no business posting this answer. Sorry. You all know I "preach" athiesm, and this is a scarecely-camoflaged ploy at doing that. However, my real thoughts on god are to ignore it - don't bother with it, it will become clear when we die, but not truly athiesm. I admit that I may be a believer, it doesn't matter now here on earth.

Killing in the name of god really takes me to strange places... I cringe with agony over the way we try to create god in our own image.

Rudenski, you really hit a nail on the head with that sentence, it makes total sense to me, and it is now my "belief system" to "NOT define god", which is what I have been doing all along, on purpose, is "not defining god", and claiming myself to be athiest in order to do that 'perfectly'.
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Evidence of God   by mama2two   18 year 1 of 2 (50%)

Yes, I see God every day. I see Him in my children, I see Him in my blessings, in the trees, the sunsets, in everything good, God is there. You don't have to see Him to SEE Him.

(Short version) I read a story once about a man who helped out a poor man, but wasn't really sure that he should and had doubts about it, but in the end he did. At the end of the story, God revealed to the man that HE was that poor man. And if he would have refused that poor man, he would have refused God.

God is in every one of us. You may not see a heavenly figure in the sky or hear a booming voice from the heavens, face it, you probably never will. But have FAITH and God will reveal himself to you, he will speak to you. I sometimes wonder if God is there, especially when my life is hectic and I don't stop to look and listen. But once I do, I see him everywhere. God helps us through our lives, through good and bad. God doesn't punish us, he loves us and wants to protect us from evil. He speaks to us through others, and through the Bible.

For God so loved the world that he gave his only son, that who ever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. John 3:16. That means that if you believe that God sent his son to die for our sins and if you believe in Him, you will go on to be with him in heaven.

You may not consider it to be hard evidence, but it's right there for you to see, hear, smell and touch. I believe that what God wants and expects of us is nothing but good. He wants us to help others, give of ourselves, trust in him, stay away from evil and things that hurt other people. It's simple really. And you've nothing to lose.

This life is only the beginning. We are only here on earth for a brief moment, before we go to heaven, or elsewhere. If we believe in and live for God, which is our true purpose here on this earth, we will live in Heaven forever. And Heaven will be an unbelievable place, with no suffering, sickness and pain, It will be absolutely breathtakingly beautiful. I sure dont want to miss it.

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Hard Evidence   by knows   17 year 1 of 2 (50%)

God, yeah, where'd He go?? I met Him over in Cambodia way back in June 1970. He was hiding right inside of me. Saved me a few times over there too. When I got home I thought I was God for a while there. I couldn't do anything wrong. I could drive my car correctly, I could dress myself properly, I could study for exams to ace them, I could go to work and perform my duties perfectly, I could even eat properly. Man, I was good. It was GREAT. Then, then, I got married and found out I wasn't doing any of those things right. I was married to God. Oh well, had it going for a while there.
Discovered I couldn't live with God so I divorced Her. Took to studying all the religions of the world. Couldn't find God in any of them. So I went back to the God I discovered way back in 1970 in Cambodia. Ahhhh, home agin. It worked too, saved me again. My comment on all that is: It ain't what you think it is. Look in a mirror - He's hiding in there.
Hard eveidence? Gee, I wonder. I wonder if the grass is going to grow this year. I wonder if the Robins are going to return. I wonder if the flowers are going to bloom and the gardens grow. Hard evidence?
Want to diascover God. Go to war, do a little combat. He'll show up, and it will surprise you when it's all over with. It's way too easy. Look in a mirror.
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I called on God   by Zoebess   18 year 1 of 2 (50%)

I met an old woman, when I was a young woman, and she emphatically spoke to me of her conversations with God. I listened, incredulously, but most of all impressed with her spiritual certainty. It left an impression on me....

The act of faith is suspending disbelief. In deciding to believe in something, anything, you develop faith....

I would like to share one example where I called on God and my faith in God was rewarded....

Longer story short, one evening I was in a cage with another woman and a chimpanzee, named Sally. The cage was roughly 10 X 12 X 20. It immediately adjoined another, where another chimp was housed, a male. We had been in the cage perhaps an hour, maybe a little more, but it was time to leave and Sally was not interested in us leaving. The problem began when the other woman who was a visitor and not used to handling the chimps began saying NO to Sally. There was protesting on the part of Sally and even the male began to vocalize too, hooting. Then someone came into the room and was going to unlock the cage so we could get out and Sally began poking the woman desperate to initiate play. The woman pushed Sally's hands away and that triggered an attack. I had always known that there was that potential in chimps since they play very rough and the majority of accidents/attacks seem to happen in familiar settings when there is rough play going on. Well, Sally grabbed the woman's hands and began to attack her. The male began screaming as the blood went flying. The attack was probably only a few minutes, but everything began to go in slow motion as it seemed every noise, every action became a layer in this event, the woman screaming, me screaming, people outside the cage screaming, the male screaming, my own thoughts racing like a jigsaw puzzle, trying to put the pieces together in nanoseconds and knowing in the back of my mind that both the woman and I could easily be killed. For whatever reason, God only knows...ggg, the people *outside* the cage behaved as poorly as one could in the situation and that feeling of abandonment was the most poignant since it became evident that the calvary would not be showing up...

I remember standing up, although the memory is also in slow motion, as if I were doing some yoga stance or tai chi-ing into a tower of desperation. I stood up, put my arms out, looking down on the situation of chaos, blood and terror. I called, aloud, on God. "God help me", I said. In a heartbeat, a column of gold light, almost like a pillar of gold light, with gold confetti in it, hit Sally in her chest. The pillar of light was round, approximately 16 inches wide. Sally's head flayed back and I saw her eyes roll up into the top of her head. Her mouth hung open as she became speechless as if the wind were knocked out of her. My own inner guidance, (angels?), urged me, now!! and as the light switched off, I took that instant to body slam the chimp. I had fear that she would tear me up but I pleaded in my mind, "God dont let this chimp kill me". I lay on her, cheek to cheek, both of us heaving with adrenaline. Amazingly, she lay limp as a kitten, and did not resist. I called on someone to unlock the cage and they got the other woman out. They locked the cage door behind and I was almost afraid to move since I did not know what would happen. I asked God to allow me to get up and then spoke up, "open the cage, I am coming out". As I lifted my body from Sally's, she lay motionless as if paralyzed. I stepped away and out.

I would not have even mentioned the gold light but as soon as I got out of the cage, the other woman wanted to know, what had happened, "what was that gold light". I told her the truth, "I called on God for help"...

Like my experience when I was young, listening to my elderly friend encourage me to cultivate spiritual certainty, I do not expect you to believe what I have shared, but I will profess it as truth. In so many ways, that lesson of listening to someone and feeling the strength of her faith planted seeds in me of my own faith. Over the years I have witnessed many miracles and each time, I become even more certain of the presence of God in our lives. What, who, where, and when God is, I do not know. It is a matter of faith for me and I have chosen to believe even with the lack of evidence, and that my friend, has made all the difference.

I wish you well on your journey to find your own faith...

be happy, be well,
Zoe

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GOD have talked to me many times   by evavirg   11 year 1 of 2 (50%)

GOD come home to me in August 2000. 
 
Jesus Christ was also in my home and I think it was he that took his Father with him.
 
It was only few hours left before I should make a suicide but GOD come before I did it and instead did he took me out from my country.
 
You can read more on my blog. 
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Interesting   by Uniqleeme   12 year 1 of 2 (50%)

Did you feel like you were in a dream? Or were you feeling overly conscious as described in NDE's?
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The Presence of God   by Norvash   12 year 1 of 2 (50%)

For many years I thought God only existed in people's minds and yet something compelled me to keep looking for evidence. One day at a church, I heard a man, Marshall Vian Summers, speak about the presence of something he called Knowledge within us. He referred to it as the piece of God that God put in us when we were created so that we would always be able to find our way back to him/her. He said that this place just "knows" things without explanation and that the connection to this place is within everyone and can be developed. I knew what he was referring to because I had experienced what he was talking about. I just didn't know what it was. He said it is greater than intuition but that intuition is a very small piece of it. What amazed me is that he said everyone has access to this and everyone can DEVELOP this connection to God. It isn't connected to any religion. It transcends all of that and yet is totally inclusive of everyone on the planet. To make a long story short I wanted to know more and began studying his work. That was in 1990 and I've never looked back. It has changed my life and how I see the world. I now do not doubt the presence of a Greater Presence in my life. I can feel it. Some people may not want to call it God but it's a good a name as any. For anyone interested in checking it out go to the newmessage.org website for a real experience. Much of the material on this site is free or very inexpensive.
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A visit from God   by #148627   13 year 1 of 2 (50%)

I had a dream one night. I was above the earth looking down. The place I was at was very bright and I felt much warmth. On earth it was red...there was much bloodshed and it was a nightmare like I've never seen before. I had tears rolling down from my eyes...the pain of seeing what was happening on earth was too much to bear. God asked me if I now understood why things had to be this way. I said yes. I was comforted by God and as much as it was painful to see all the souls who wouldn't make it...I felt much peace inside...I knew there would be no more pain. I didn't see God's face in the dream, but I did hear him...I can't describe how he spoke to me.
I have had other messages in dreams and I had a life event happen to me in which there is no other explanation than God.
Many nights before I go to sleep I pray that God will come to me in a dream again. I felt like I was at home and I need to be there and feel that again.
All things shall pass...there is a GOD if any of you have doubts.
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God is love.   by Gr8ful   17 year 1 of 2 (50%)

Even an atheist needs God. An idea to not believe in.  

Who can deny anything, without first creating something to deny?

God is love to me.  A love that is so above anykind of love I can even imagine. 

Love asks for nothing. Love wants nothing. 

For Love lacks nothing. To lack nothing is to have no needs.

Yes to me this is God.

What lacks nothing must have everything. What has everything must be everything.

Everthing that is real. 

To have happiness is to be happy.

I do not need to ask forgiveness, all I have to do is forgive.

I do not need to be thanked, all I need to feel is thankful.

People think God wants all these things from us, how can this be?

God has no lacks.

People think God will send us to hell if we insist on making mistakes.

How can this be?  

Imagine with meMoney mouth

Masterpiece: Gods Creation ( The most beautiful painting you can imagine so perfect that nothing can be done to improve it. Improvement is impossible)

We are that painting. Every line, dot, mark, color.   I am a dot , you are a line, he is a mark, she is a color.

Now that we exist we start to lable the things in our vicinity.  Hmmm why am I not as bold as that line.  I am bigger that that dot. I need that mark to go over there it is in my way. I have the best color.

Such is the human condition. Oblivious of our beauty and perfection as ONE. Frown

Yet the Masterpiece stays the same.Cool

Can I Share I book in progress with you?

God is in me too!

When God was in my mommy, oh the wonderful things she'd do!

She would make me food. She would brush my hair. She would sing a song or two.

When God was in my daddy, he would light up the whole room!

He would let me ride up on his back.

He would fly me like a plane.

He would gather our family together, and we would make a choo-choo train.

When God was in my sisters, they would let me in their room!

They would read me books and make funny looks.

I would stay all afternoon.

When God was in my brother, oh the fun that we would have!

It never mattered what we did.

I was always glad.

When God was in my friends...They would always say kind things

They would cheer me up when I was feeling down and wipe away my frown.

When God was in my strangers there were many things they'd do

Some would simply smile

Some would open a door

Some would say hello to me, and some would say much more

I met a man whom I really love and we married right away

And the way he shows his love to all

God is in him everyday

And now that I am a mommy... I found God in my children too.

And when they look at me with love... I know God is in me too!

My conclusion

We are dreaming. In the bible it says that Adam fell into a deep sleep.  No where in the bible does it say he woke up.  To me Adam is symbolic for the whole of humanity.

We are in a dream journey. 

We are sleeping as God watches over us knowing that we are perfectly safe.

Some of us are having nightmares.

Some of us have learned how to let the nightmares go, and go on to more peaceful dreams.

When my baby has a nightmare, I can not tell him it was only a bad dream, and it is not real.

Because he believes in it. 

I can only say to him, come to me, everything is alright now.

As he grows I can teach him that it is not real. 

Perhaps that is all that Jesus, Buddha, and countless others that woke up are intending to do with us?

You decide.

You will never find the light if you only look in the darkness.

Happy Dreams brothers and sisters! 

Give love a chance, and love will guide you.

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Anyone who has seen God's face   by wisemom   17 year 1 of 2 (50%)

is dead.

In the Bible, it is stated that God turned his back to Moses (whose hair turned white at even the backside of God) because if Moses saw his face, he would die.

To know God is to seek God. I can understand your questioning, and I believe even the most faithful believers have doubted His existence.

As for male or female, the answer is yes and no. God calls himself a Father to the fatherless, yet also gives the analogy of being a Mother hen gathering her chicks under her wings.

We cannot know if God is male or female. In debating this we lose the truth. God created man AND woman in his image. So, we have to assume that the Godhead is the unity of man and woman. A picture of this is a godly marriage. Forever on in God's eyes. The married couple then produces offspring. The very picture of two becoming one.

If you are seeking God with all your heart, you will find him. He will be a Father, if that is what you ask him to be. He will be a Mother if you need him to be. He will always be your closest friend. He will never leave you, nor forsake you. He will carve your name into the palm of his hand so that he never forgets you. You will be his child if you seek him with all your heart.
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evidence   by Ready2Rapture   17 year 1 of 2 (50%)

"Hard evidence" needs to be defined before your question can be answered.

Many people write off spiritual encounters as hallucinations, so "seeing" God would not provide hard evidence unless one is willing to concede that such encounters are even possible. For the naturalist, for example, the supernatural is impossible, so any evidence for it must be ignored or given an alternate explanation. In other words, the naturalist can't possibly accept any evidence for God, no matter how convincing.

Personally, I begin with the premise that God's existence is proven at the very least by the fact that anything physical exists at all. Things cannot create themselves. And the more Science learns about the complexity and interdependence of life, the more ridiculous the idea of their being the result of blind chance becomes. We look at the space shuttle and say "design", but can we look at life and say "accident"?

So I accept as "hard evidence" of God, the universe and all it's complexity. What is your definition of "hard evidence"? If it precludes the supernatural, then the question cannot be answered.
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why worry?   by marydavis   17 year 1 of 2 (50%)

I am always drawn to the questions that people ask about the existence of The Creator.
I have read several of the responses and I will tell you that if I did not believe in a kind , loving and all powerful God I would probably never leave the house.
I have called on God for 40 years and finally , just this year, I feel closer to Him than I could ever have hoped to be.
I will absolutely PROMISE you that Faith will make you a stronger, healthier and better person.
God is here- and even He likes to hear Thank you every now and then.

God Bless you and I'll just wait ..I will be interested to hear of your own miracle soon.
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Why do bad things happen to good people?   by rudenski   18 year 1 of 2 (50%)

Because God wanted creation to choose love with their own free will....When God created free-will... 1/3rd of everything that is God rebelled against love and hid from God's love in darkness. We are the ones who chose to let bad things happen to us. We are still light beneath the darkness of death and dying we put over the perfect light that is our soul but we fell into death and dying with our own free-will. Hopefully one day we will "see the light" but it is our choice... In the end though...when every soul and spirit chooses love over death and dying...death and dying will die and never return...
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