Any studies on stuctured water? Specifically with the vitalizer plus vortex machine?
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vortex energy favorite of genius' by finallyfaith 18 year 1 of 1 (100%)
that machine is fairly new and i doubt much research on it exists, though i could be wrong. it is based on the theories of rudolph steiner who founded biodynamic farming, as you may know. also viktor schauberger, who is the original water wizard, talked a lot about vortexes and water and how nature creates them naturally in streams and brooks. in a mountain runoff brook the water falls through many rocks, creating small eddying pools or mini vortexes, these are what he believed energized the water, that and the sunlight and the minerals leached from the rocks in the stream. i wuold love to buy one of those machines and plan on doing it. if you do please post your experiences in the energized water forum.
steiner believed you could energize water for farming by infusing it with powdered quartz crystal and then creating alternating clock wise and counter clock wise vortexes, so that machine is based on real genius' theories, whether or not it works may be hard to measure.
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that machine is fairly new and i doubt much research on it exists, though i could be wrong. it is based on the theories of rudolph steiner who founded biodynamic farming, as you may know. also viktor schauberger, who is the original water wizard, talked a lot about vortexes and water and how nature creates them naturally in streams and brooks. in a mountain runoff brook the water falls through many rocks, creating small eddying pools or mini vortexes, these are what he believed energized the water, that and the sunlight and the minerals leached from the rocks in the stream. i wuold love to buy one of those machines and plan on doing it. if you do please post your experiences in the energized water forum.
steiner believed you could energize water for farming by infusing it with powdered quartz crystal and then creating alternating clock wise and counter clock wise vortexes, so that machine is based on real genius' theories, whether or not it works may be hard to measure.
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I am not sure if this is what you had in mind by risingsun 18 year 1 of 1 (100%)
http://www.heartspring.net/water_clinical_studies.html
* Fluid replacement promotes optimal physical performance.
* Electrolyzed-reduced water scavenges active oxygen & protects DNA from oxidative damage.
* The mechanism of the enhanced antioxidant effects of reduced water produced by electrolysis.
* Antimicrobial interventions to reduce Salmonella species on poultry
* Treatment of Escherichia coli inoculated alfalfa sprouts with electrolyzed oxidizing water
* Inactivation of E. coli & Listeria on plastic kitchen cutting boards by electrolyzed oxidizing water.
* The bactericidal effects of electrolyzed oxidizing water on bacterial strains in hospital infections
* Effect of electrolyzed water on wound healing.
* Effect of electrolyzed oxidizing water on excised burn-wounds in rats
* Decomposition of ethylene, a flower-senescence hormone, with electrolyzed anode water.
* Use of Ionized Water in hypochlorhydria, achlorhydria, reduction of high blood pressure
* Use of Ionized Water for gynecological conditions
* Clinical Improvements obtained from the uptake of Ionized Water
* Alkaline ionized water for abdominal complaints: Placebo controlled double blind tests
* Physiological effects of alkaline ionized water: intestinal fermentation
* Effects of calcium alkaline ionized water on formation and maintenance of osseous tissues
* Reduced Water for Prevention of Disease
* Use of Ionized water in heart disease and toxins.
* Use of Ionized water in skin disease.
* Use of Ionized water in allergies.
* Use of Ionized water in diebetes treatment
* Use of Ionized water in treating Acidosis
* Environmental electroshemistry of water
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http://www.heartspring.net/water_clinical_studies.html
* Fluid replacement promotes optimal physical performance.
* Electrolyzed-reduced water scavenges active oxygen & protects DNA from oxidative damage.
* The mechanism of the enhanced antioxidant effects of reduced water produced by electrolysis.
* Antimicrobial interventions to reduce Salmonella species on poultry
* Treatment of Escherichia coli inoculated alfalfa sprouts with electrolyzed oxidizing water
* Inactivation of E. coli & Listeria on plastic kitchen cutting boards by electrolyzed oxidizing water.
* The bactericidal effects of electrolyzed oxidizing water on bacterial strains in hospital infections
* Effect of electrolyzed water on wound healing.
* Effect of electrolyzed oxidizing water on excised burn-wounds in rats
* Decomposition of ethylene, a flower-senescence hormone, with electrolyzed anode water.
* Use of Ionized Water in hypochlorhydria, achlorhydria, reduction of high blood pressure
* Use of Ionized Water for gynecological conditions
* Clinical Improvements obtained from the uptake of Ionized Water
* Alkaline ionized water for abdominal complaints: Placebo controlled double blind tests
* Physiological effects of alkaline ionized water: intestinal fermentation
* Effects of calcium alkaline ionized water on formation and maintenance of osseous tissues
* Reduced Water for Prevention of Disease
* Use of Ionized water in heart disease and toxins.
* Use of Ionized water in skin disease.
* Use of Ionized water in allergies.
* Use of Ionized water in diebetes treatment
* Use of Ionized water in treating Acidosis
* Environmental electroshemistry of water
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My experience with Vitalizer Plus by #21277 18 year 3 of 4 (75%)
I purchased the vitalizer plus almost a month ago after doing some research on its background and science. Honestly it made a lot of sense on how it can optimize your drinking water; the question was, is the typical drinking water that much worse?
The truth was that I immediately noticed a big difference on the first cup of water of vitalized water; I know this sounds ridiculous but it felt that most water was absorbed in my throat as if it was so penetrating. The water feels very light and thin - I had minor side effects on the first few days of using it (my body was probably adjusting to it). I went from drinking less then the reccomended daily dosage to drinking more than 6-8 cups of water a day - this all because I been craving the water terribly (my body feels like it still getting recharged with the water).
The difference can be very subtle to the untrained mind but I think the body will show signs of enjoying it. Bad quality water can have pollutant and even disease markers that can disrupt that natural properties of structured water - it can take your body energy to absorb the unstructured water and it can have a hard time reaching the cell level where its needed to hydrate and eliminate cellular waste.
I think structured water can play an important part in overall health and it is a good compliment to good diet.
Mike
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I purchased the vitalizer plus almost a month ago after doing some research on its background and science. Honestly it made a lot of sense on how it can optimize your drinking water; the question was, is the typical drinking water that much worse?
The truth was that I immediately noticed a big difference on the first cup of water of vitalized water; I know this sounds ridiculous but it felt that most water was absorbed in my throat as if it was so penetrating. The water feels very light and thin - I had minor side effects on the first few days of using it (my body was probably adjusting to it). I went from drinking less then the reccomended daily dosage to drinking more than 6-8 cups of water a day - this all because I been craving the water terribly (my body feels like it still getting recharged with the water).
The difference can be very subtle to the untrained mind but I think the body will show signs of enjoying it. Bad quality water can have pollutant and even disease markers that can disrupt that natural properties of structured water - it can take your body energy to absorb the unstructured water and it can have a hard time reaching the cell level where its needed to hydrate and eliminate cellular waste.
I think structured water can play an important part in overall health and it is a good compliment to good diet.
Mike
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energized water works wonders by finallyfaith 18 year 3 of 4 (75%)
consider the following:
one way of energizing water is through ozonating it. curezone member golfegg's wife had stage iV Breast Cancer and cured herself mostly using ozonated water
another method of energizing water involves using a stainless steel bowl, some wire and a 9 volt battery. curezone member parhat lives in Thailand and has experimented with this method. he found that beans sprouted with this water sprout faster and grow considerably bigger than beans sprouted with regular water. for someone who bean sprouts are a dietary staple this is a BIG deal.
then there patrick flanagan, maybe the best known of the modern day water wizards. he developed a means of isolating the hydrogen atom from water and combining it with silicon. when added to water this compound creates super hydrogen water. professional mountaineers who climb mt. evrest have used his product to combat dehydration and altitude sickness at extreme elevations.
so it all depends on what you are trying to do, but don't think its all just mumbo jumbo, cause it ain't. now if you are in good health and happy then don't worry about it. but the fact is that you could always be in better health. and the vitalizer is really a very experimental machine, i would not order it to try to achieve optimal health necessarily i would order it out of curiosity and because water is one of my abiding fascinations. if i wanted to achieve better health i would get a watr ozonator, that has been studied and found to be very affective.
water is an open field of study and we are really just begining to understand it. there is so much still to know. and so much benefit mankind can get from knowing. water even responds to thoughts and prayers. check this out if you don't believe
//www.curezone.org/blogs/m.asp?f=596&i=7
//www.curezone.org/blogs/m.asp?f=596&i=5
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consider the following:
one way of energizing water is through ozonating it. curezone member golfegg's wife had stage iV Breast Cancer and cured herself mostly using ozonated water
another method of energizing water involves using a stainless steel bowl, some wire and a 9 volt battery. curezone member parhat lives in Thailand and has experimented with this method. he found that beans sprouted with this water sprout faster and grow considerably bigger than beans sprouted with regular water. for someone who bean sprouts are a dietary staple this is a BIG deal.
then there patrick flanagan, maybe the best known of the modern day water wizards. he developed a means of isolating the hydrogen atom from water and combining it with silicon. when added to water this compound creates super hydrogen water. professional mountaineers who climb mt. evrest have used his product to combat dehydration and altitude sickness at extreme elevations.
so it all depends on what you are trying to do, but don't think its all just mumbo jumbo, cause it ain't. now if you are in good health and happy then don't worry about it. but the fact is that you could always be in better health. and the vitalizer is really a very experimental machine, i would not order it to try to achieve optimal health necessarily i would order it out of curiosity and because water is one of my abiding fascinations. if i wanted to achieve better health i would get a watr ozonator, that has been studied and found to be very affective.
water is an open field of study and we are really just begining to understand it. there is so much still to know. and so much benefit mankind can get from knowing. water even responds to thoughts and prayers. check this out if you don't believe
//www.curezone.org/blogs/m.asp?f=596&i=7
//www.curezone.org/blogs/m.asp?f=596&i=5
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structured water by tomi444 18 year 1 of 2 (50%)
ff,
i have read much about WATER in respects to drink healthfully. the cost to find out
what help it would be is too high. it talks about water structure made through VORTEX when water is running through a mountain stream and collecting minerals in
it's path. i personally feelthat it's OTT. what it says to me is (i drink filtered water) that other water doesn't make it's way through the CELLS IN OUR BODIES
properly. i just dont accept that. i'm 66 alive and well, i put celtic SALT in my water and i have high blood pressure and a heart attack 2 years ago, i feel just great. i feel ff that at times we go too deep into what is good for us. i dont wish to be too sceptical aout it but i've read in some FORUM about it's USE but they just
say they use it because they payed for it.i would like more info. Tom.
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ff,
i have read much about WATER in respects to drink healthfully. the cost to find out
what help it would be is too high. it talks about water structure made through VORTEX when water is running through a mountain stream and collecting minerals in
it's path. i personally feelthat it's OTT. what it says to me is (i drink filtered water) that other water doesn't make it's way through the CELLS IN OUR BODIES
properly. i just dont accept that. i'm 66 alive and well, i put celtic SALT in my water and i have high blood pressure and a heart attack 2 years ago, i feel just great. i feel ff that at times we go too deep into what is good for us. i dont wish to be too sceptical aout it but i've read in some FORUM about it's USE but they just
say they use it because they payed for it.i would like more info. Tom.
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Comparing Vitalizer Plus with Alkaline Water Ionizers by balletomane 15 year 1 of 2 (50%)
Hi, I am also curious about the Vitalizer Plus and wonder how that compares with the much more expensive Alkaline Water ionizers in the market, e.g. Enagic, Jupiter, Tyent machines that separate the water molecule into a positively-charged Hydrogen, a negatively-charged one and an Oxygen atom, the last two becoming the drinkable, alkaline and clustered water.
Does anyone know how the structured water that Vitalizer Plus creates differ from the water made by those ionizers?
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Hi, I am also curious about the Vitalizer Plus and wonder how that compares with the much more expensive Alkaline Water ionizers in the market, e.g. Enagic, Jupiter, Tyent machines that separate the water molecule into a positively-charged Hydrogen, a negatively-charged one and an Oxygen atom, the last two becoming the drinkable, alkaline and clustered water.
Does anyone know how the structured water that Vitalizer Plus creates differ from the water made by those ionizers?
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Why should proof replace common sense ? by zappman 16 year 1 of 2 (50%)
I have the Vitalizer and I've been using it for over 4 years. Great product in my opinion. I can go into many benefits, but I'll keep it short and say that the benefits have to be experienced.
The Vitalizer is not simply about spinning water. Spinning will energize it and raise the O2 content to some degree, but the real "jazz" is based on the duplication of natural high mountain processes as water naturally traverses. Hunza water would be indicative of having these experiences.
Water falls and vortexes and tumbles and as it does so, it absorbs etheric(magnetic) energy from the earth, while also absorbing far infra-red energy from the sun. Mineralization is also a natural process as water filters through sand , soil and rock. The combined issues serve to form the basis for water's capability to form hexagonal clusters, clusters that are smaller that those of pentagonal water. The features are simply about delivery and cell penetration/hydration.
The Vitalizer Plus has large (and heavy) ceramic magnets in the base to provide the etheric component of water's experience, while the base also has a generous bed of tourmaline (semi-precious stone) that emits far I.R. energy. Within the resevoir, we find the mineral basket for mineral ionization and , of course the unit spins the water.
The water is powerful enough to cause detox in many people who drink it. That should say something to you.
If you contact this supplier and tell her that you got a referral from within curzone, she'll give you a healthy discount. She prefers that I don't mention the amount for competitive reasons. It's sizable, however. She gave it to me, so I know.
http://www.wholeearthhealth.com/vitalizer_plus
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I have the Vitalizer and I've been using it for over 4 years. Great product in my opinion. I can go into many benefits, but I'll keep it short and say that the benefits have to be experienced.
The Vitalizer is not simply about spinning water. Spinning will energize it and raise the O2 content to some degree, but the real "jazz" is based on the duplication of natural high mountain processes as water naturally traverses. Hunza water would be indicative of having these experiences.
Water falls and vortexes and tumbles and as it does so, it absorbs etheric(magnetic) energy from the earth, while also absorbing far infra-red energy from the sun. Mineralization is also a natural process as water filters through sand , soil and rock. The combined issues serve to form the basis for water's capability to form hexagonal clusters, clusters that are smaller that those of pentagonal water. The features are simply about delivery and cell penetration/hydration.
The Vitalizer Plus has large (and heavy) ceramic magnets in the base to provide the etheric component of water's experience, while the base also has a generous bed of tourmaline (semi-precious stone) that emits far I.R. energy. Within the resevoir, we find the mineral basket for mineral ionization and , of course the unit spins the water.
The water is powerful enough to cause detox in many people who drink it. That should say something to you.
If you contact this supplier and tell her that you got a referral from within curzone, she'll give you a healthy discount. She prefers that I don't mention the amount for competitive reasons. It's sizable, however. She gave it to me, so I know.
http://www.wholeearthhealth.com/vitalizer_plus
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structured water - vitalizer plus by overhaul1939 16 year 1 of 2 (50%)
Until I see a true scientific study I place the $400+ vitalizer plus in the category of the copper bracelet and the vibrating belt. I am skeptical (very doubtful) as to how swirling a glass of water can change the molecular structure.
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Until I see a true scientific study I place the $400+ vitalizer plus in the category of the copper bracelet and the vibrating belt. I am skeptical (very doubtful) as to how swirling a glass of water can change the molecular structure.
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