- Abigail Shrier - Author of her book: "Bad Therapy: Why the Kids Aren't Growing Up"
- From video @ ~6:35:
- Joe Rogan: "You know, I never really considered that until your book, until I heard the title of your book. I read the synopsis of it. I never really considered it. I never considered that thinking about your problems -all the time - talking about your problems all the time, literally make the problems grow.
- Abigail Shrier: "That's right. I mean, its the #1 symptom of depression. Its called 'Rumination' (negative thought process that involves repeatedly focusing on negative feelings, distress, and their causes and consequences) this pathological obsessing over your pain. That's why stuff like exercise... That's one of the reasons, aside from chemical reasons that doing anything - running errands - is good for your mental health. Getting out of your house & accomplishing anything is good for you. But sitting around talking & thinking about your problems - that's a bad habit. And the best cognitive behavioral therapists & others - the dialectical behavioral therapists - the ones who do really well with depression, the first thing they do is try to break that bad pattern. But a lot of therapist just [promote] to indulge [in] it."
- Abigail Shrier - no mention of meditation? Abigail is not one who meditates. Otherwise, she would make a clear mention of it.
- With the understanding that thinking is a habit (indeed, it is). There is no mention of changing that habit - the direction of that habit - from constant thinking negative thoughts to thinking in a positive direction - even that is not addressed.
One thing that Abigail does appropriately address is the overuse of drugs being prescribed to young people in order to cover over, to coverup, their own anxieties - to avoid process of moving through anxiety.