Oxalate Dumping: How to deal with it?

Oxalate Dumping: How to deal with it?


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In this video I discuss nutritional solutions to help manage oxalate dumping. This can include eating certain foods at specific times, and also involves key nutritional supplements. The main aims are to replenish what it lost, reduce inflammation and aid oxalate clearance from the body in a safe way.

Timestamps:

00:45 What is oxalate dumping? Recap
01:24 The most effective strategy to reduce dumping symptoms
01:55 The number one priority minerals
03:03 The best form of minerals
03:39 Oxalate's arch nemesis!
04:04 A way to speed up oxalate excretion?
04:33 The three main B vitamins
05:13 An important amino acid and an important fatty acid
05:51 What dose of nutrients to take
07:43 What other supplements can be used?

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@BuggsSunny
1 month ago
TLDR
- Oxalate dumping occurs when the body releases stored oxalate, causing symptoms like inflammation, joint pain, brain fog, and more.

- To manage oxalate dumping, consider:

- Eating small amounts of oxalate-containing foods (e.g., dark chocolate, nuts) to slow the process.

- Replenishing essential minerals:

- Potassium: Prevents deficiency symptoms like thirst, rapid heart rate, muscle weakness.

- Magnesium: Prevents oxalate crystallization, supports urinary clearance.

- Calcium: Binds tightly with oxalate, aids in excretion.

- Using citrate forms of minerals (potassium citrate, magnesium citrate) to dissolve oxalate and replenish lost minerals.

- Consuming sources of sulfate ( Epsom Salts , sodium/potassium bicarbonate) to counteract oxalate damage and promote excretion.

- Taking B vitamins:

- Biotin: Helps counteract intracellular biotin deficiency caused by oxalate.

- Vitamin B6: Useful for inflammation-related depletion, common in oxalate issues.

- Vitamin B1 (thiamine): Important when the body produces excess oxalate.

- Trying taurine: Amino acid that aids in excess oxalate elimination by improving bile acid metabolism.

- Using butyrate: A fatty acid produced by gut microbiome that increases oxalate dumping into the gut and prevents reabsorption.

- Supporting specific organs:

- Kidneys/bladder: Hydration, acetyl-glucosamine to repair mucosal barriers.

- Joints: Proteolytic enzymes, MSM, or DMSO cream for pain relief.

- Skin: Aloe vera and CBD for irritation relief.

- Eyes: Saline solution or MSM eye drops for irritation.

- Adjust nutrient dosages based on personal needs and dumping frequency.

- Aim to take nutrients daily, with higher doses on dumping days and lower doses on non-dumping days.

- Caution: Manage diarrhea with non-citrate magnesium, avoid calcium supplements for constipation, and don't take minerals with oxalate-containing foods.


@ingridinwonder1218
@ingridinwonder1218
9 months ago
B1 and potassium helped me tremendously with the pain of the crystals under my feet, 1 square of dark chocolate slows the dumping down for me indeed. When I started full carnivore I did not know this, the need of going slow. Fainting, vomiting, nausea, diarrhea for weeks. It nearly killed me, it was horrendous. Thank you EO for making this clear!

@David-R.
@David-R.
1 month ago
Wow this video is gold!!! Took one problem and covered it completely!! People don't realize that most doctors have NO clue about what that is. Sadly!!!!!

@tomjones2157
@tomjones2157
9 months ago
THANKYOU Elliot!!! 🥰🥰🥰 I've been hospitalised into intensive care with oxalate problems that nearly killed me several times and had a lifetime of disability. Doctors tell me nothing about the actual cause or how to manage it other than pushing a million medications and see you next time and say its extremely rare (but repeating) situation they haven't encountered before and (its not, lots of my relatives have also been through the EXACT same thing, with exact same clinical markers, same sepsis, same specialists and same nurses in intensive care even at the same hospital and they all say they have never seen this before, Its like some sort of Conspiracy to never mention oxalates, they just say "genetics" and "luck of the draw" in some sort of religious mystical vague answer). Its so comforting I can now do something to help cut down on the pain when I'm dumping. Going on the low almost zero oxalate diet has improved my kidney function by over 50% so I am saved from dialysis as I'm now over the 15% function and I no longer pee blood or need to see that bloody hospital again and all my so called diagnoses and other medical conditions are improving day by day. It feels like you CARE Elliot, like a lay carer when no-one else does. Its cruel that the people who are actually trained care for you in the medical world are turning a blind eye and suppressing knowledge. I am so grateful people like you and Sally Norton are getting the word out so people who are extremely sensitive to Oxalates can know what to do instead of suffering and dying young.



@5solas743
9 months ago (edited)
A year ago I would have thought all of this oxylate stuff was bogus. BUT, after a while on the carnivore diet the wheels fell off the wagon! Up until this point I was feeling the best I had in years! I felt if I was aging in reverse. I had previously been a hardcore vegan and green juice warrior! My health was steadily declining. I transitioned to paleo over time and that helped but carnivore was/is the best for me.

But one morning I woke up and several of my old injuries were achey. I couldn’t even put weight on my wrist to do a push up. My whole body felt stiff. Then over the next couple of days I began to feel very lethargic and flu-like. I had severe pain when urinating! I had horrible brain fog. My eyes would burn and itch. I developed a rash in a few places. I had a build up on my teeth. All of this seemed to happen over night out of nowhere!

I wish the carnivore community would make people more aware of this possible eventuality. It would have saved me a lot of misery and doctor visits. Oh, and even though the docs didn’t find any proof of a UTI they still tried me on two different Antibiotics jic, one of which caused me some new health issues!🤦🏻‍♂️. I am still having some issues several months later but nothing like before.

Oh, I discovered too that some of us need to be very careful about consuming too much bone broth as it will convert to oxylates. If I drink too much it is guaranteed that I will be peeing out flames the next day! 😬.

Thanks Elliot for the video! People, takes this stuff seriously and save yo self some misery.



@kara6177
9 months ago
Elliot, so helpful!
I feel like Sally Norton sometimes does not go into how to manage dumping effectively as much as stating that it happens.
Thediahrrea lasted for MONTHS on carnivore no matter what I did. I’m back to keto with low oxalate veggies and already feeling a lot better. I had to back track and slow that train down.
Elliot, I am now pregnant…what are your thoughts on continuing low oxalate diet? Should I take it even slower or just take the supplements?



@Druids234
9 months ago
Very good presentation. Two crucial questions are not addressed, though: First, what is the average and range of time it takes to complete the dumping process? I've seen YouTube Comments quoting 2 years; Sally Norton (together with Elliot, one of the world's leading experts on oxalates) describes herself as being in her 9th year of dumping (she was so badly oxalate poisoned she couldn't get off her couch when she started on a low oxalate diet). Am I right to think the normal range is roughly 6 months to 2 years?
Second, what is the level of oxalate at which one can normally manage the fine balance between optimal dumping and avoiding the worst damage to your system (and symptoms thereof) - if excessive the oxalate on its way out can be more damaging than when it was coming in? I've heard Sally say that the normal oxalate excretion rate of the body is between 150 to 200 mg of oxalate per day, which suggests that a low oxalate diet of roughly 50-100 mg/day might be the optimal balance. In my own experience (10 months on carnivore), I find that a low oxalate intake in the form of chocolate 18 g for 70 mg of oxalate and x2 cups of black tea at 25 mg oxalate each, which totals 120 mg of oxalates, keeps me in the zone between feeling extremely unwell (headache, nausea, fatigue) and continued signs of dumping in the form of cloudy urine (not mentioned in this video, but something Sally refers to). But I could probably benefit from reducing the chocolate contribution to no more than 20 or 50 mg of oxalate per day.

@claremaidofthewave251
@claremaidofthewave251
9 months ago (edited)
Thanks for this, didn’t know about the MSM eye drops. I’ve ordered some, fingers crossed.
Edit update: The MSM drops for eyes arrived, putting the drops in burned like hell, eyes were red and sore, even more irritated. Only applied twice because the 2nd time was worse and lasted longer.
Initially I thought perhaps it was meant to react but would calm down.
Then I read more reviews and saw I was certainly not the only one. Have ended up with Optrex Double Action drops to calm things down and lubricate. Be careful!


@presouz5
@presouz5
5 months ago
I started drinking distilled water exclusively almost a month ago & about two weeks in I started experiencing some weird symptoms and I do have oxalate issues and have been on medium to low oxalate way of eating for years but it looks like this new detox. I’m doing with distilled water and (honestly who knew distilled water could do this) but it does pick crap faster than regular water because it doesn’t have anything attached to it being pure so it just goes in and cleans house & seems to reek havoc all over your body picking up minerals and moving them out. Even my teeth hurt. I’m getting zings. Even my eyes hurt.! And I ended up with brutal gout in both knees, which are weak joints that I’ve dealt with for 18 years. And I know by experience in 2016 that going low oxalate way if life do to Oxalate Toxicity & dumping for the first time my right shoulder was paralyzed for a couple months before I figured out what was going on.


@safetifying
@safetifying
3 months ago (edited)
Most helpful. I took several of the things that you recommended and started to get relief within about 10 minutes 🙏🙏


@GrandmaGiGi
@GrandmaGiGi
2 weeks ago
My God Elliot!!
You are BRILLIANT!!
The suffering I’ve been experiencing is rank. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!
I have all listed except butyrate and calcium; both are easy to obtain.
Bless you a thousand fold!!! Tweet