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Getting Clear About Federal Proprietary Jurisdiction Limits!
(Son of Truth of Self)
Getting Clear About Federal Proprietary Jurisdiction Limits! by Chef JeM .....
"Mans Court case may have cracked open Fraud of D.C. Federal Jurisdiction" plus "Federal Proprietary Jurisdiction Limits" includes all "Acts of Congress"!
Date: 12/16/2015 1:47:54 AM ( 9 y ago)
April 20, 2020 - Presumed Jurisdiction Under Color of Law Is Possible Only Through Confusion -
"The federal government consists of the employees of the Congress of the United States which rules beyond its territorial limitations by actively and perpetually having Americans confuse the United States, the territory owned by or subject to the exclusive legislative power of the United States of America, with the United States of America, the America not owned by the Confederacy."[22]*
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February 16, 2020 -
"... They pass 'Acts' as 'Actors' in a play.
They have openly admitted that nothing they have done since 1860 counts,
plainly stated it as the Enabling Clause they use as they publish their 'Acts of Congress'.
'This Act shall not effect any right thus previously established.'(i)"[21]
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Comment:
Now all that's left to fully connect the "crumbs" left on this truth trail regarding government is for the American people - most especially individual Americans - to assert their true identity as Americans and not as a government-controlled second class federal citizen with legislated revokable privileges that are subject to judicial whims whatever the prevailing winds of the times may be.
(i) Regarding "any right thus previously established" "Any right" would be better expressed as any Rights - just as they are called in The Declaration of Independence which is every American's very first Organic Law and which is the most acknowledging of our "Unalienable Rights"! These Rights were very well "established" before Congress (especially the entity that it has devolved to today) acted out its craft!
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December 16, 2015 -
We've been saying all along at the Organic Laws Institute (and for years before) that Federal jurisdiction is limited firstly because it is based on natural proprietary jurisdiction limits of the land, the territory, the property, etc.[11] Now comes a "Man's Court case (that) may have cracked open Fraud of D.C. Federal Jurisdiction"![1]
"We are bound to interpret the constitution in the light of the law as it existed at the time it was adopted," Mattox v. U.S., 156 U.S. 237, 243 (1895).[2]
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March 9, 2018 - Link to the Organic Laws in United States Code:
http://uscode.house.gov/browse/frontmatter/organiclaws&edition=prelim
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March 7, 2019 - "Ours v. Theirs" - By Anna Von Reitz -
Even today, among sincere patriots, there are many misunderstandings.
I had one such man who has devoted his life to restoring the lawful government owed to the people of this country describe the Federal Constitutions as our "Founding Documents".
They aren't our Founding Documents. They weren't even anticipated when our Founding Documents were forged.
The Federal Constitutions establish the Federal Government and our States are Parties to those agreements, but no, folks, the Federal Constitutions --- all three of them --- were lucky to be included as Organic Law in this country.
The Constitutions govern national trusts and commercial services contracts. They stipulate which organizations are supposed to provide which services. They establish the form and structure of the Federal, Territorial, and Municipal Governments as they pertain to us. They limit the Federal Government. They provide guarantees to our States and to us. And that's about it.
As things stand, the trusts have been held in contempt by the British Monarch and the Pope, and the services have been totally ramrodded. The Hired Help has been running the roost, writing up contracts for themselves, charging whatever they wanted against our credit under conditions of fraud and under color of law.
And who are the Hired Help? The "United States Citizens" and "Citizens of the United States".
These are two groups of foreign operatives on our shores, one British (United States Citizens) and one Papist (Citizens of the United States). Their political status is created and defined under Article 1, Section 2 and Article I, Section 3.
They are our employees and we are their employers. Never forget it again.
The Constitutions are their "Founding Documents"---- not ours.
We have every reason and right to form up our actual State Assemblies and hold the Queen and the Pope feet first to the fire for Gross Breach of Trust and for Fraud and many other crimes against the living people of this country.
We, the People, who are the actual population of the geographically defined States, can enforce the Constitutions and we need to do so without any further debate.
In view of the way we have been dis-served by the Queen and the Popes, we have every right to refuse them any further assumption of contract. Mr. Trump has a 30 day quid pro quo and that's all anyone has at this point.
They want us to respect the Constitutions and pay the bills, but they don't want to live in accord with and respect the Constitutions --- nor do they show the least little bit of concern for their actual employers.
They, the Hired Help, want to lord it over us and pretend that we are employees, just like they are employees---- except that we are considered "volunteers" who don't get paid for our services: slaves and indentured servants.
The tail has been wagging the dog so long that they, the tail, have forgotten that there is a dog, and tragically enough, there are even many Americans who have been asleep and thought so, too.
Well, here's a big ray of sunshine up their skirts. We are back. In force. On the land and soil of the American States. We know who we are. We know who they are. And the whole world knows what they owe us.[18]
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Comment: This is the very first time that I am hearing a distinction between "citizen of the United States" and "United States citizen." I have immediately made note of this important distinction here (and at "Are You Really a "citizen of the United States?").
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February 28, 2018 - Specific "Acts of Congress" -
The following was just brought to my attention via a private communication:
The post-"9/11" entities called "Department of Homeland Security" (DHS) and, later, the U.S. "Immigration and Customs Enforcement" (ICE) were created as the result(s) of Acts of Congress, ... they are both, in law, bound by the Constitution under Article IV., Section 3, Clause 2: ("Property Clause").[12]
I'm now inspired to identify the specific "Acts of Congress" for the above two named entities.
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About an hour later, Just verified that the following is an "Act of Congress":
TITLE I—DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY
PUBLIC LAW 107-296—NOV. 25, 2002
116 STAT. 2135
Public Law 107-296
107th Congress
An Act -
To establish the Department of Homeland Security, and for other purposes.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE; TABLE OF CONTENTS.
Nov. 25, 2002 [H.R. 5005]
(a)-SHORT TITLE.—This Act may be cited as the "Homeland Security Act of 2002”.
(b) TABLE OF CONTENTS.—The table of contents for this Act is as follows:
Sec. 1. Short title
Sec. 2 Definitions ..."[13]
...
SEC. 2. DEFINITIONS.
In this Act, the following definitions apply:
(1) Each of the terms "American homeland" and "homeland"
means the United States.[14]
(2) The term "appropriate congressional committee" means
any committee of the House of Representatives or the Senate having legislative or oversight jurisdiction under the Rules of the House of Representatives or the Senate, respectively, over the matter concerned.
(3) The term "assets" includes contracts, facilities, property, records, unobligated or unexpended balances of appropriations, and other funds or resources (other than personnel).
(4) The term "critical infrastructure" has the meaning given that term in section 1016(e) of Public Law 107-56 (42 U.S.C. 5195c(e)).
(5) The term "Department" meams the Department of Homeland Security.
(6) The term "emergency response providers" includes Fed- eral, State, and local emergency public safety, law enforcement, emergency response, emergency medical (including hospital emergency facilities), and related personnel, agencies, and authorities.
(7) The term "executive agency" means an executive agency and a military department, as defined, respectively, in sections 105 and 102 of title 5, United States Code.
(8) The term "functions" includes authorities, powers, rights, privileges, immunities, programs, projects, activities, duties, and responsibilities.
PUBLIC LAW 107-296—NOV. 25, 2002 116 STAT. 2141
(9) The term "key resources" means publicly or privately controlled resources essential to the minimal operations of the economy and government.
(10) The term "local government" means—
(A) a county, municipality, city, town, township, local
public authority, school district, special district, intrastate district, council of governments (regardless of whether the council of governments is incorporated as a nonprofit cor- poration under State law), regional or interstate govern- ment entity, or agency or instrumentality of a local govern- ment;
(B) an Indian tribe or authorized tribal organization, or in Alaska a Native village or Alaska Regional Native Corporation; and
(C) a rural community, unincorporated town or village, or other public entity.
(11) The term "major disaster" has the meaning given
in section 102(2) of the Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act (42 U.S.C. 5122).
(12) The term "personnel" means officers and employees.
(13) The term "Secretary" means the Secretary of Home- land Security.
(14) The term "State" means any State of the United States, the District of Columbia, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, Guam, American Samoa, the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands, and any possession of the United States.
(15) The term "terrorism" means any activity that— (A) involves an act that—
(i) is dangerous to human life or potentially destructive of critical infrastructure or key resources; and
(ii) is a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State or other subdivision of the United States; and
(B) appears to be intended—
(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping.
(16)(A) The term "United States", when used in a geographic sense, means any State of the United States, the District of Columbia, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, Guam, American Samoa, the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands, any possession of the United States, and any waters within the jurisdiction of the United States.
(B) Nothing in this paragraph or any other provision of this Act shall be construed to modify the definition of "United States" for the purposes of the Immigration and Nationality Act or any other immigration or nationality law.
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December 1, 2019 - Continuing Toward Total Clarity Regarding (Government) "Employees" -
"... our Employees ... have no reason or right to be fighting on our soil."[20]
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December 30th -
"Federal Proprietary Jurisdiction Limits" includes all "Acts of Congress".
This blog-writer has enjoyed using PayPal and decided he wanted to apply for their debit card. In the process of filling out their application he stopped at the request for a Social Security Number. He used to participate in the "Social Security system" but he doesn't participate in it now. Also he doesn't use the number if it is not a truly Lawful requirement (and as far as he knows there is no Law that demands his "voluntary" sharing of the number with anyone or any entity). Subsequently he asked PayPal to "show me the Law."
On Friday, December 25th, 2015 he wrote:
"... On your page[4] you say: 'Federal law requires us to collect your ... Social Security number ...'. Please show me the law that makes this particular requirement and especially applicable to Americans who are not residents of Washington DC, Federal Territories or other lands that are subject to the exclusive proprietary jurisdiction of the United States Congress.
Thank you!
Cordially and sincerely
without prejudice,
By: Chef Jemichel
@ San Diego, California
In 'The United States of America'"
PayPal responded:
"...
Absolutely, the federal statute that requires us to collect your SSN is a requirement of the Patriot Act, Section (Paypal deleted the section number in their last correspondence). This section requires that we, the financial issuing institution makes adequate attempts to satisfy identification before issuing sensitive financial documents. We currently do not offer our PayPal Debit MasterCard to federal territories or republics outside of the 50 states. The district of Columbia is included within the places we can issue cards per our governing card issuer Bankcorp. Thank you for being a valued member of PayPal and have a great day.
Sincerely,
Michael
PayPal Debit Card Team
PayPal"
Then this writer responded on Tuesday, December 29th -
Greetings Michael and PayPal Debit Card Team!
Thank you for the info!
The USA Patriot Act is an Act of Congress.[i]
Federal legislation is proprietary based. That means it's limited to the territory actually owned by or subject to the exclusive jurisdiction of the United States of America.[ii]
I live on private land in California that is not owned by or subject to the exclusive jurisdiction of the United States of America and therefore not within the jurisdiction of this Act of Congress. I invite you to show me the error/s in what I have just presented.
Without your show of written Law as to the error/s in the above statement I will conclude that you have a company policy for collecting this kind of information that is in addition to "Federal law".
Cordially,
Without Prejudice
By: xxx
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[i] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Act
[ii] Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17:
http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/a1_8_17s16.html
The final reply from PayPal came this evening:
On 12/30/2015 19:28, webform@paypal.com wrote:
"...
Thank you for contacting the PayPal Debit MasterCard. team today. My name is Ricky and I understand that you have questions about the PayPal Debit MasterCard..
Here's how to apply for a PayPal Debit Card:
* Click the link below.
* Log into your PayPal account if needed.
* Complete the application.
* Read and accept the terms and conditions.[5]
To apply for the PayPal Debit MasterCard., you'll need to:
* Have a confirmed physical street address (not a P.O. Box). This can be done by:
* Linking a credit card whose monthly statement is sent to a physical street address.
* Applying and being approved for a PayPal Credit product that confirms your physical address.
* Completing the location confirmation process. For assistance, call us at 1-888-221-1161.
* Be an active PayPal member in good standing.
* Add your Date of Birth and your Social Security number to your PayPal account.
After you request the card, it will arrive in 7-10 business days in a plain white envelope with an Omaha, NE return address
Thank you again for contacting us today. I am glad I could resolve your questions about your PayPal Debit MasterCard.. If you have further questions give us a call at 866-888-6080. Thank you for being a valued PayPal customer and have a great day!
Sincerely,
Ricky
PayPal Debit Card Team
PayPal"
I then thought for a brief moment about calling them but immediately realized that I had already anticipated that they would not be presenting any written Law that would indicate an error in my response on Tuesday, December 29th. I then accepted their non-response to that issue.
I conclude that PayPal has a company policy for collecting Social Security numbers (from their customers who want the PayPal debit card) that is in addition to the "Federal law". Consequently I decline to pursue the application. Does that deny any of my Rights? I don't think so. I don't know that I have any Rights to a company product or service unless I have actually made a purchase as the basis for demanding the delivery of the product or service. I don't have that kind of a transaction with PayPal.
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August 28, 2018 - PayPal Continues With Non-Disclosure That (In My Opinion) "Colors" Their Legal Agreements -
Just sent the following to PayPal:
PayPal
I've received this same semi-automated reply a couple times before.
The repeated resending of these "forms" is not encouraging when I have submitted replies and made inquires with the prime intent to resolve this!
Are my replies being noted? .........
If so then I have already replied a couple times saying I do not have any of the "documents" being asked for here.
An offer was presented to me to call. I do not have a phone however I asked if an internet-based "conference call" could be possible that I can participate in via computer. That inquiry was not answered. Instead I got the request form once again that was initially sent some weeks ago asking for the documentation.
I've also requested to be given a copy of the law that supposedly requires me to submit the documents. Only a general reference to a bank secrecy Act and the patriot Act was mentioned. I responded regarding the later saying that Act did not get registered in the federal registry to indicate that it is a duly enacted law. However even if it were "law" all "Acts of Congress" are limited to territory owned by the United States and other proprietary-based jurisdictions. I do not live on any federal property!
I have no evidence of any Law that requires me to submit any documentation to you. I have to conclude that your repeated requests for documentation (after I had responded several times in like manner as here) are either just company policy or are an indication of an unwillingness to fully relate to an individual American "free inhabitant".
Not answering to my requests for full disclosure is also not encouraging here. (That’s stating it very mildly.) Non-disclosure in legal agreements unfavorably colors the agreement. I think there is some "clean-up" needed in regards to this account.
Please respond without any further semi-automated "forms" and kindly acknowledge my repeated replies regrading the documentation that you've requested from me. Also please let me know if an internet-based call is possible.
Thank you for considering my requests.
Without Prejudice,
By: xxxx/xxx
San Diego, California.
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On 08/28/2018 00:07, service@paypal.com wrote:
> Dear xxxx,
>
> Thanks for helping to keep your account secure by providing documents
> to confirm your identity.
>
> Unfortunately, one of your documents is missing, so we'll need you to
> send it.
>
> Please log in to your account and check your notifications. Find the
> notification that asks you to provide documents to confirm your
> identity, and then follow the link to upload:
>
> - A copy of your government-issued photo ID (i.e. passport,
> driver's license) that includes your date of birth.
>
> - A copy of a utility bill verifying your address. We can also
> accept a copy of the bank statement, credit card statement, or 401K or
> brokerage statement. The document must have been issued within the
> last 12 months, contain your name and the residential address listed
> on your PayPal account. We are unable to complete verification using a
> PO Box address.
>
> - A copy of your social security card, W-2 or pay stub. If you
> don't have access to any of these documents, you can go to your local
> Social Security Office and request a letter verifying your Social
> Security number that they will date, sign, and stamp.
>
> - A copy of your IRS statement verifying your full Individual
> Taxpayer Identification number (ITIN).
>
> After we receive and review your documentation, we will notify you via
> email regarding the status of our review.
>
> Thanks for being a valued PayPal customer.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Rxxxx
> PayPal Compliance Department
> PayPal
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An Apparent Reply From PayPal Re: The Above -
"From: service@paypal.com
xxx
Date: Today 18:00
Dear xxx,
Thanks for helping to keep your account secure by providing documents to confirm your identity.
Unfortunately, one of your documents is incomplete, so we'll need you to send it again.
Please log in to your account and check your notifications. Find the notification that asks you to provide documents to confirm your identity, and then follow the link to upload:
- A copy of your government-issued photo ID (i.e. passport, driver's license) that includes your date of birth.
- A copy of a utility bill verifying your address. We can also accept a copy of the bank statement, credit card statement, or 401K or brokerage statement. The document must have been issued within the last 12 months, contain your name and the residential address listed on your PayPal account. We are unable to complete verification using a PO Box address.
- A copy of your social security card, W-2 or pay stub. If you don't have access to any of these documents, you can go to your local Social Security Office and request a letter verifying your Social Security number that they will date, sign, and stamp.
After we receive and review your documentation, we will notify you via email regarding the status of our review.
Thanks for being a valued PayPal customer.
Sincerely,
Sham
PayPal Compliance Department
PayPal
Please do not reply to this email. This mailbox is not monitored and you will not receive a response. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact us at complianceverifications@paypal.com.
Copyright © 1999-2018 PayPal. All rights reserved."
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I don't want to do "business" with this entity any more. I'll probably transfer out the remaining (tiny) balance in the next day or so and ask them to close the account (possibly unless they can tell me what restrictions they might have placed on it).
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July 30, 2019 - About Eleven Months Later -
There have been a number of times over the course of the last eleven months when this writer was offered a modest donation as appreciation for his private consults with others that could have come to him by way of PayPal - however the functional status of his PayPal account was uncertain and he didn't want to risk having the funds blocked or held under the claim that the account was not fully validated with an acceptable form of ID. Therefore he has had no PayPal activity for over the past year. This past day a notice came from PayPal regarding their legal agreement and in that notice was a link to feedback which this writer found interesting and through which he responded by visiting the PayPal site. He stared looking at the legal page and soon noticed it said "These legal agreements apply to users in United States." That immediately raised the legal question: which definition for "United States" are they using? Finally he submitted the following "feedback":
Contacting your site now In response to your current legal notice.
Was unable to access emailing a message to you because of a security question that does not relate to me. One security question was answered regarding "mother's maiden name." The other asked for the last four of a driver's license (DL) and I do not have a DL!
It would be an improvement to provide another security question that actually pertains to me. Would it be possible to remove that irrelevant security question and replace it with one that is pertinent to me? .........
The reason for wanting to email you is to ask for your definition of "United States." According to the United States Judiciary there are at least three definitions for the United States. Which definition for "United States" are you referring to in regards to: "These legal agreements" and especially who they apply to?
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August 12, 2019 -
No response to the inquiry that was submitted on July 30th (immediately above here).
Sent the following as a "private email" at the PayPal site:
Your legal page says: "These legal agreements apply to users in United States." There are several legal definitions for "United States." What legal definition for "United States" do "these legal agreements" refer to?
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August 26, 2019 -
Just "emailed" PayPal at their site:
Two issues here:
#1.) I responded via link for "feedback" in your previous notice (in July) re: your "legal agreement." The legal page said: "These legal agreements apply to users in United States." There are three or more different legal definitions for "United States." That raises the legal question: which definition for "United States" are you using? ......... I demand to know your legal definition for "United States."
Issue #2.) I had submitted the following "feedback" (in July) now updated w minor edits:
Contacting your site now in response to your current legal notice.
Was unable to access emailing a message to you because of a security question that does not relate to me. One security question was answered regarding "mother's maiden name." The other asked for the last four of a driver's license (DL) and just as I had previous stated: I do not have a DL!
Please provide another security question that actually pertains to me. Please remove that irrelevant security question and replace it with one that is pertinent.
Thank You!
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February 7, 2020 - Tonight's Update Re: PayPal -
This Blog-writer received a notice regarding an unexpected ("commission" of) $10 that was recently deposited into his PayPal account. He naturally wanted to access that. His current total PayPal balance is whooping $10.92! However, according to PayPal they are under "federal" regulations that demand PayPal to verify the account holder's ID and apparently there is no minimum $ required for this mandatory compliance with this demand. That is the conclusion that this writer is making after just having had the following exchanges with the PayPal system:
8:00 PM on Friday, February 7th, 2020 immediately after the following online conversation with a PayPal agent (spelling errors corrected):
PayPal Virtual Agent
4:25 PM
Hi! I'm PayPal's Virtual Agent. I can help with common questions like "what's the status of my dispute" or "I want a refund".
If I can't help, I'll transfer your message to an agent.
(chef)
4:27 PM
How do I send money (my Paypal balance of $10.92) to a friend now when I don't have a bank account?
PayPal Virtual Agent
4:27 PM
Need help with refunds?
I can help with checking the status of a refund, requesting a refund or issuing a refund. Click an option below to get started.
(chef)
4:28 PM
None of the above
PayPal Virtual Agent
4:28 PM
I found some articles in our Help Center that might help you. Check them out! If you need more help, please type “need more help".
When will my Samsung Pay account automatically top up?
Where can I use PayPal with Samsung Pay?
How do I send money right away via PayPal using my bank account?
(chef)
4:29 PM
Please transfer me to an agent.
PayPal Virtual Agent
4:29 PM
I can transfer this conversation to an agent. The estimated response time is a few hours.
After I transfer the conversation, you can close the window and come back to it when it’s convenient for you. When we respond, we’ll send you a notification with a link to the Message Center where you can reply.
Would you like to transfer this conversation to an agent?
(chef)
4:29 PM
Yes
PayPal Virtual Agent
4:29 PM
Please send us a detailed message below and an agent will respond as soon as possible.
(chef)
4:30 PM
…
How do I send money (to a friend) now that I don't have a bank account?
You are now connected to Amit
Amit
6:25 PM
Hello! Welcome to PayPal Messaging Center! My name is Amit, how are you doing today?
You are now connected to Amit
Amit
6:34 PM
(chef), I understand your concern towards sending money. Do not worry, I will definitely help you get more information on this.
You can send money to your friend using PayPal balance but before that you would need to verify your identity with us.
To do so, please help us with your photo Id, proof of address and proof of SSN. You can attach the documents here on chat or you can upload at http://www.paypal.com/il/uploaddoc
If you do not verify your identity with us, the only option is to withdraw funds to bank or debit card. If you have a debit card, withdraw funds to it. You will have a fee of 1% for withdrawing funds to debit card and no fees to withdraw funds to bank account.
It looks like you stepped away from our conversation. That's ok! When you reply we’ll connect your message to the next available Customer Support team member if the previous Team Member is not available.
Please go ahead and leave us a message if you haven't already, and we will get back to you in a few hours.
(chef)
7:29 PM
I do not have any of the things that you are asking for to verify my identity. I do not have a "bank or debit card. The system asked for a bank account to send (my PalPal balance of $10.92) to a friend. What does it take to get authorization to do this? .........
You are now connected to Amit
(chef)
7:29 PM
Hello!
Amit
7:30 PM
Hi (chef).
(chef)
7:30 PM
Greetings Amit!
Amit
7:31 PM
I'm sorry to say but if you do not have a bank account or debit card then the only option to withdraw funds is by requesting a check to your mailing address. For that you would need to help us with proof of address.
(chef), I apologize but I see that there is a bank account linked.
(chef)
7:32 PM
I am willing to accept your check providing that you leave the "Pay To" line blank or allow me to designate my friend as the payee. Is that possible? .........
Amit
7:33 PM
Could you please confirm if you're attempting to withdraw the money or make payment using bank account?
(chef)
7:33 PM
Whatever bank account is listed is expired.
At this point I'm firstly interested in the withdrawal option and then closing the account.
Amit
7:35 PM
I see that there is a bank ending with xx71 linked to this account. If this bank is expired then you can withdraw funds requesting a check but the check would be in the name of account holder and not someone else.
(chef)
7:36 PM
Okay. I will accept that. Can you assist me please through this withdrawal process? .........
Amit
7:37 PM
Sure. Please help me with proof of address here. Acceptable Proof of Address documents are:
•Utility bill (Dated within last 12 months)
•Cell or landline phone bill (Dated within last 12 months)
•Motor vehicle registration (Dated within last 12 months)
•401k/Brokerage Statement (Dated within last 12 months)
•Copy of Grant Deed on Home or Lease Agreement for Home
•Bank or credit card statement (Dated within last 12 months)
(chef)
7:37 PM
I do not have any of these items.
Amit
7:38 PM
I'm sorry but in that case there is no option to withdraw the funds. You would need to have either a bank/ card or a confirmed address to withdraw the funds.
(chef)
7:40 PM
I think Pay Pay could send me a note to this effect at my mailing location and that I could sign their insert and mail that back to verify my address. How about that? .........
Amit
7:41 PM
I'm sorry but check withdrawal do not work that way. When we have a confirmed address or once after you provide proof of address only then the option to activate check withdrawal can be override.
If there was an option, I would have definitely helped you. I would recommend you to add a valid bank account or card to withdraw the funds.
(chef)
7:44 PM
Thanks for your kind thoughts however I do not have the funds to open a bank account at this time. Re: verifying my address I could mail a notice to PalPal.
Unless there is a way to obtain special authorization on the withdrawal of my balance of $10. and ninety some cents I would like the mailing location for PayPal so I can send my notice.
We are talking about $10.92 of funds in my account that I need special authorization to receive.
What is the mailing location please and who do I address this to? .........
Amit
7:51 PM
I apologize but there isn't an option to send check to your mailing address without you confirming the address or adding a financial to withdraw.
(chef)
7:52 PM
I hear your "no option." What is the PalPal mailing location and who do I address my notice to? .........
Amit
7:53 PM
Ok. You can send notice to our legal department here:
PayPal
Attn: Legal Dept./Civil
2211 North First Street
San Jose, CA 95131
(chef)
7:55 PM
Thanks! If you aren't providing me with a representative then I'll look up the agents for this. Have a good night! .............. Cordially and sincerely without prejudice.
Amit
7:57 PM
(chef), I wish we had any such option to withdraw money using check without confirming the address but there isn't any such option and we are obliged to follow certain regulations before we can overrode such decision. I have given you all the available options to withdraw the funds.
(chef)
7:59 PM
I appreciate the best that you had to offer at this time and especially under the circumstances of those (federal) "regulations." ......... Thanks Again!
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June 28, 2020 - Still dealing with PayPal -
They claim I can't "use the funds in (my) account to make any purchases online" unless I upgrade the account. I replied saying I have years of using the funds in my account to make any purchases online and don't understand why that is being blocked now. I then demanded to have access to the funds.
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June 29, 2020 - The following is probably the last com-cycle with this oufit before filing a federal complaint -
Retrieved the following PayPal message at 6:57 AM on Monday, June 29 2020 -
Philip 6:33 AM -
If you want i can transfer the conversation to our limitation department so we can assist you further.
Feel free to reply whenever you're ready. When you reply, one of our available agents or myself will continue to help you.
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xxxx 6:57 AM -
(Replied:) welcome further your assistance.
In reply to the most previous message of 10:16 PM on Sunday, June 28 2020:
Thank you for your information. I visited the "Resolution Center.” I absolutely do not have any photo ID. Isn't it noted in my file that I had previously reported this fact? .........
If not then please note this!
Also I have no proof of a SSN - and according to the issuer that number is prohibited from being used for ID purposes!
I am reasserting my demand for immediate access to my funds without further delays of any kind. You have 72 hours from 9:00 AM Pacific on Monday, June 28th.
All Rights Reserved, Without the "United States" - By: xxxx
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The above was followed by:
Jemark 7:20 AM
Hi xxxx, I understand you're concern about the limitation on your account at the same time you can request to remove the limitation on your account. Here's how to remove the limitation on your account:
Go to the Resolution Center.
Under 'You account access is limited', click Go to Account Limitations.
Next to each step required to remove the limitation, click Resolve and follow the steps to provide that information.
If you complete these steps and your account remains limited, it might be because:
We need additional information from you. We will send you an email to let you know exactly what information we need
We have not finished our review of your case. We'll email you the results of our review
Feel free to reply whenever you're ready and we'll reply as soon as we can.
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xxxx 7:25 AM
Looking forward to your email at your earliest convenience.
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Finally at 7:56 AM after responding to the following:
Jhon Carlo 7:38 AM
I have reviewed the previous conversation and understand that you want to have access to the funds in your account but i can see that there's a limitation to the account that needs to be remove first. This is how you can remove it. Here's how to remove the limitation on your account:
Go to the Resolution Center.
Under 'You account access is limited', click Go to Account Limitations.
Next to each step required to remove the limitation, click Resolve and follow the steps to provide that information.
If you complete these steps and your account remains limited, it might be because:
We need additional information from you. We will send you an email to let you know exactly what information we need
We have not finished our review of your case. We'll email you the results of our review
Feel free to reply whenever you're ready. When you reply, one of our available agents or myself will continue to help you.
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xxxx 7:55 AM
Please note that I have taken these steps as far as I can and that I do not have the photo ID and I do not have proof of SSN.
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Did they not see and note my reply as of 6:57 AM? ......... In any case this is one example among many of disregards of good faith attempts to satisfy what is now apparent to this Blog-writer as their demands for personal information under color of law that were also replied to saying "I am not a subject of those Acts of Congress and I am obviously not volunteering into that jurisdiction!"
It appears that filing a complaint with the FTC as of Thursday 9:00 AM will be in order.
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September 25, 2019 - Regarding Driver's License -
"... we need to think about what we learn.
A good friend faced with the demand to get a Driver License quickly noticed about a half dozen things that were asked on the paperwork that were improper-- for example, the ambiguous 'Are you a US Citizen?' question.
Which 'US'-- mine, yours or theirs?
What kind of 'Citizen'? State? Territorial? Municipal?
Followed by demands for Social Security Numbers and statements claiming 'residency' -- none of which apply to an American State National. (AKA natural born American /"free-inhabitant" - who is born on the land and soil of one of fifty American States.)
We aren't supposed to be enrolled in THEIR retirement system and we are certainly not 'residents' in our own country.
The simple obvious answer is that Americans aren't supposed to apply for Driver Licenses, either. That's why all this verbiage is there that applies only to foreign Federal Citizens. THEY have to be licensed. Not us.
Since it makes money (lots of it) for their States-of-State organizations they naturally want you to subject yourself to all their rules and statutory laws by 'voluntarily' applying for a DL --- an act by which you hang yourself and knowingly or unknowing misidentifying yourself as some kind of 'US Citizen'.
The lawyers leave it nebulous so they can pick and choose whether they misidentify you as a Territorial or as a Municipal today--- knowing all the while that you are, most likely, neither.
The act of coercing someone to buy something or do something (i.e. contracting) which enriches you and harms them is a crime of racketeering, which is why so much of what they do is actionable under the RICO laws, if and when you can get any of their own foreign 'district' attorneys to enforce against them.
And how likely is that?
... My friend had gotten to the point of recognizing all the suspect words and phrases, but he hadn't gotten so far as to recognize the evidence and admissions contained in the Driver License Application.
They are in fact admitting that DLs are not intended for Joe Public. And, furthermore, any demand that Joe Public get such a license intended for foreign workers is admitted to be an act of racketeering under color of law and also an attempt to suborn perjury."[19]
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January 11, 2016 -
Posted the following comment on: "Newly Discovered Eighth Grade Exam From 1912[Following post] Shows How Dumbed Down America Has Become" with a link to this blog. I've started to upgrade my comment inside: "( )".
Unfortunately this 1912 exam has its own errors with at least two under the Civil Government section. These errors have continued to be reinforced by government schools. They obfuscate the (complete) foundation of our American freedom and the very limited jurisdiction of the federal government. So, don't negate yourself if you don't score 100% on "Civil Government".
I have a number of blogs on this subject matter. Here's one to start with:
http://www.curezone.org/blogs/fm.asp?i=2292529
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April 2018 - "Thomas Jefferson and the Troll Army" - By Anna Von Reitz -
Mr. Thomas Jefferson speculated that if we had a well-informed populace, there would be no need for a government ---- and he was right.
The only problem is that first a populace has to be well-educated, which ours is not. Even those we consider to be educated --- doctors, lawyers, and university professors --- are very narrowly trained, and not what would be called "educated" in any former era.
I have asked hundreds of lawyers where law comes from and after four years of Law School --- they don't have a clue. That's tragic --- both from a moral and a practical standpoint. It makes them incompetent lawyers and unfeeling men.
This is not our fault. We have spent trillions of dollars on schools and education and been cheated --- as on so many other occasions --- by those who pretended to be experts. The question remains--- experts in what?
Certainly not education.
An eighth grade education in 1900 was provably more rigorous, wider-reaching, more practical, and more intensive than a high school education today. Since Jimmy Carter's federal Department of Education took over and started dictating to state and local schools in 1976, American test scores have plummeted and have continued to nose-dive no matter how much money we throw into The Black Hole.
Many college graduates today--- COLLEGE --- have less than the Sixth Grade reading skills of my generation. And we were no great shakes compared to our grandparents who all studied Latin and Greek, Rhetoric, Logic, Philosophy, History, Geography and Grammar far above and beyond any course of study we engaged in.
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So we are ignorant and ignorance makes us fearful--- a fact that Trolls take full advantage of. And we are also ill-informed -- first by our truncated education and next by the war machine Press Corps pumping out propaganda 24/7.
Having been left virtually untrained in the art of logic and having been abused and mistreated by their own government, people don't know HOW to reason their way through things, or who to trust or what to do.
Some of them, either because of actual mental limitations or because of their fear, can't be reasoned with and can't be taught. And of course, a good many who are being paid to be obstructive and to be disinformation agents and to try to excuse the current "government" could care less what the truth is anyway, ..."[17]
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April 27th -
The downside of not knowing the "fraud" is that trespassers under "color of law" are then unrestrained from committing heinous crimes against the people and against the nation. Such was the case in Oregon.[6]
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July 2, 2016 -
"... Federal Jurisdiction.
The zone of Federal Jurisdiction, where the U.S. Federal Government has exclusive legislative authority, is within the District of Columbia, Guam, American Samoa, Puerto Rico and the other American Offshore Territories and possessions, and under admiralty Law in the territorial waters off the continental coasts, (federal zone) outside of the territorial waters controlled by the states (state zone waters).
No Federal Legislative Jurisdiction lies within the borders of the 50 States. Federal rules, laws, and jurisdiction can only be applied within the 50 states borders with written permission from the state, for designated Federal Forts, Magazines, Interstate Waterways, and Buildings."[7]
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September 16, 2016 -
"...Federal ownership of land may be (and usually is) merely proprietary— meaning that the Federales are acting as property managers— a role that does not create any exclusive use by the federal government and does not create federal subject matter jurisdiction."[8]
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May 28, 2017 - A comment I just posted at Paul Stramer's site:
I suppose "what has been done to us" is a phrase with appeal to anyone who thinks and/or feels they are a victim.
Re: "conspiracy against The Constitution" - would that be a conspiracy against The Conspiracy? When was the Constitution of September 17, 1787 ever adopted with written oaths to support it? If "The United States" (as per "this Constitution") is congruent with the principal of proprietary-based jurisdiction then what (if any) true Lawful relationship do Americans have with "this Constitution" if they are not actually in "The United States" or in any legal arrangement with the United States government?
However, the status of "free inhabitant" is still an option, but one would have to be willing to give up all their identifying with every aspect of "government" and that might be too much to ask of most people.
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November 17, 2017 -
Posted a "review" of the book: The Outlaw's Bible"[10] -
I have a copy of this book. Since first getting it I became a student in the Organic Laws Institute under the professorship of Dr. Ed Rivera. Gaining a working knowledge and understanding of how the four Organic Laws are very much like "Four Pillars"[i] will far exceed just having this book's understanding of the United States legal system. The reason why this is so is because the Constitution of September 17, 1787 does not truly apply to private Americans on the land who are not on or engaged with government property or other proprietary-based activities.
The very best that this "Bible" has to offer is found in "Commandment IV: Don't Consent".[ii] If you are not on government-owned property, engaged in a government privilege or otherwise Lawfully subject to the jurisdiction of government then that jurisdiction is voluntary and voluntarily entered into via your consent.
When you are not under the government's jurisdiction then why would you want to volunteer into it?
[i] See: "Four Pillars of Constitutionalism".
[ii] Page 294
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March 2, 2018 - Getting Clear About "United States" as a Legal Term -
"The term 'United States' in the phrase 'U.S. Citizen' or 'United States citizen' refers to citizens of a corporation that was formed in 1871. The definition can be found in 28 USC § 3002 Definitions wherein we see '(15) United States Means - (A) A federal corporation'.[16] The United States should not be construed as an abbreviation of the United States of America. Any time one is referring to the United States of American, do not abbreviate."[15]
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October 31, 2018 - Federal Rulings For Additional Clarity Regarding citizenship. -
"A citizen of the United States is a citizen of the federal government ..." Kitchens v. Steele, 112 F.Supp 383.
"Clearly, one of the purposes of the 13th and 14th Amendments and of the 1866 act and of section 1982 was to give the Negro citizenship. Jones v. Alfred H. Mayer Co. (1967), 379 F.2d 33, 43.
"The object of the 14th Amendment, as is well known, was to confer upon the colored race the right of citizenship. " United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U. S. 649, 692.
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Notes:
[1] http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?85933-Mans-Court-case-may-have-cracked-open-Fraud-of-D-C-Federal-Jurisdiction&p=805982
See all these entries and most especially #66 to #70!
[2]
https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/156/237/case.html
Also:
http://takeamericabackofmaine.vpweb.com/Constitutional-Remonstrances.html
[4] at:
https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_dc-intro&intl_cid=Debit-Cart-Apply
[5] https://www.paypal.com/us/cgibin/webscr?cmd=_dc-intro
[6] http://canadafreepress.com/article/hillary-clintons-clinton-foundation-mega-millions-not-born-in-the-usa
http://www.evil.news/2016-02-01-militia-meltdown-is-oregon-standoff-really-about-government-insiders-selling-u-s-uranium-to-russia.html
http://libertyblitzkrieg.com/2015/04/23/more-clinton-foundation-cronyism-the-deal-to-sell-uranium-interests-to-russia-while-hillary-was-secretary-of-state/
http://newstarget.com/2016-02-11-exclusive-fbi-sting-to-arrest-86-americans-in-massive-blm-cover-up.html
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-01-27/fbi-arrests-oregon-militia-leader-six-others-one-dead
https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2016/01/27/the-clintons-is-the-oregon-standoff-really-about-uranium/
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html?_r=0
[7]
http://famguardian.org/taxfreedom/Evidence/OrgAndDuties/IRSPrivateCorp-20070630.pdf
[8] https://mainerepublicemailalert.com/2016/09/15/ammon-bundy-totally-vindicated-and-now/
[9] http://www.paulstramer.net/2017/05/what-is-name-of-crime-unlawful.html?
[10] https://archive.org/stream/The_Outlaws_Bible/Outlaws_Bible_djvu.txt
[11] "Government bureaucrats rely on your ignorance of the fact that all written law is limited to a specific subject. For governments, the subject is territory. Thus, Congress cannot write laws for Japan. Furthermore, Congress cannot write laws to regulate you without your consent, unless the United States of America owns the property on which you are located." - From: What Does The Constitution Say? at https://organiclaws.org
[12] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_Four_of_the_United_States_Constitution
[13] https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/STATUTE-116/pdf/STATUTE-116-Pg2135.pdf
[14] This is a major key that requires extraordinary clarity and certainty as the entire arena of jurisdiction rests upon this understanding. The phrase "United States" is a legal term and it is strictly defined. In order to obtain the degree of legal knowledge of this phrase you must suspend your conventional understanding and not read additional meaning into the actual legal definition of the term, otherwise you won't grok the limitations of jurisdiction in this instance or in any other instance that rests upon proprietary jurisdiction.
The definition in the "Act" in this instance at (16)(A) reads: "The term 'United States', when used in a geographic sense, means any State of the United States, ..." This is where the "extraordinary clarity and certainty" is required the most! This phrase: "any State of the United States" has two parts consisting of "State" and "the United States". Oh, but wait - there's actually more to the phrase in light of the following: ", the District of Columbia, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, Guam, American Samoa, the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands, any possession of the United States,". Are these entities considered as States "of the United States"?
[15] http://afreecountry.com/?q=non-citizen
[16] 28 USC § 3002(15):
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/28/3002
[17]
http://www.paulstramer.net/2018/04/thomas-jefferson-and-troll-army.html
[18] http://www.paulstramer.net/2019/03/ours-v-theirs.html
[19] http://www.paulstramer.net/2019/09/examples-of-operant-conditioning.html
[20] http://www.paulstramer.net/2019/12/the-biggest-lies.html
[21] http://www.paulstramer.net/2020/02/cia.html
[22] "Gerald Celente: “State Controlled Capitalism Is Called Fascism.”
September 24, 2012 by Ed Rivera:
https://organiclaws.org/gerald-celente-state-controlled-capitalism-is-called-fascism/
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Also see: "Congress changes the meaning of ... the words 'state', 'State' and 'United States'".
To: "Free Yourself From All Semantic Deceptions of Government!".
Here: https://www.curezone.org/blogs/fm.asp?i=2298826
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