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From: "Bill. B." <bb@fix.net>
To: "Prostate Discussion" <Pralt-discuss@prostate90.com>
Subject: PROSTATE90 Frustrated and nervous
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 21:42:14 -0800

I'm having a hard time keeping faith in the alternative process and need a
bit of something to hang on to here. Now, those who have PC probably won't
feel a lot of sympathy for me, since I haven't been formally diagnosed with
PC. But I seem to be sliding in that direction, though I've been trying
really hard to stop the slide.

My history:

Fall 1996, routine physical finds total psa of 8.2
March 1997, antibiotic Cipro taken for one month; psa drops to 4.2.
Urologist performs biopsy which finds no cancer.
Aug 1997, total psa 7.9
Oct 1997, total psa 6.7; free psa 13% I go on Chinese herbs.
Feb 1998, total psa of 4.6; free psa 17%. Continue on herbs.
Mar 1998, total psa 9.7; free psa 13%
April 1998, biopsy finds one of six samples shows "suspicious" cells
May 1998, four samples taken: find PIN (high grade intraepithelial
neoplasia; I'm told that 45% of the time it becomes cancerous)
Oct 1998, total psa 6.4; free psa 14%
November 4, 1998, did Ultimate Fast, began PeeNuts
Also began changing my already "good" diet to do most all that is suggested
in Larry's book. Began exercising more (running ½ hour every other day).
Even began wearing boxers rather than briefs.

January 12, 1999, began NeoProstate 300 and CM Plus (Cetyl Myristoleate), a
fatty acid ester supplement supposed to reduce inflammation, including BPH,
which I have moderate case of.
January 28, total psa 7.4; free 12%, my worst numbers ever!
Before the three supplements listed above I was taking Prostagin. I was
arising on avg. twice a night to urinate. My flow volume was quite good.
Now I find myself up once every hour to hour and a half, with a slow flow
and my libido nearly gone.

I'm frustrated.

In posts to this group, and advice from doctors and supplement dealers
recommended by this group I have read or heard the following contradictory
info:

- include lots of lycopenes in my diet, and also that they are dangerous.
- lots of soy is important, and that soy can cause cancer.
- CoEnzyme Q10 can help, and that it will increase cancer risk.
- I should take Flax Seed Oil, and that it is very bad for me and to only
take olive oil.
- remove dairy from my diet and to consume lots of unpasteurized dairy like
yogurt.

Larry's web page says following his path to prostate health can be achieved
for under $200, yet to take the cheaper of two recommended supplement
regimens for just one fast period (and two are recommended per year) cost
me nearly $250. What would it cost me to go to all the naturopaths,
homeopaths, BTA experts, dentists, and others that are recommended?

I can't imagine being able to afford to have all my fillings replaced.

One doctor recommended by this group tells me to take his supplement A but
not B. Another practitioner tells me to take his B but not A. Both want
the statistical evidence for their product not to be distorted by my taking
other supplements.

I suppose it could be argued that I might be lots worse if I wasn't doing
what I'm doing healthwise. But I'm certainly not improving, much the
contrary!

My urologist (and I've shopped around for one who didn't have obvious
dollar signs in his eyes and who would support me in "alternative" healing
methods) tells me he could get my psa into the "safe zone" within a few
days with drugs. But what would that prove, he asks? He tells me that my
psa level is the best indicator he has of my prostate health. In our
on-line discussion group here, many are talking about lowering their psa by
various methods. What is the point unless it is a "natural" level? Who
wants a low psa unless they have a healthy prostate?

I guess I'll give the PeeNuts, the NeoProstate3oo, and the CM another
month. If I've not improved in that time, I don't know what I'll do.
Maybe a serious dose of antibiotics is the route to go!?

Bill
bb@fix.net

Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 15:06:41 +0100
To: "Prostate Discussion" <Pralt-discuss@prostate90.com>
From: Dusan Stojkovic dusan@online.no

Hello Bill,

It is very good that you have posted your letter. We all are going to learn
much from you and your experience.

I will start this letter by classifying main causes of degeneration of our
body.

Toxins:
-dental(amalgam, nickel, root fillings)
-colon(mucus, parasites,chemicals,mercury,nickel,copper,cadmium,arsenic...)
-foods(toxic chemicals,processed foods,poorly digested ...)
-eating food that is not compatible with your blood type
-toxins in our body because of the malfunction of liver and kidneys,...
-Toxic electromagnetic fields and radiation
-others

-"emotional toxins", "toxins created by stress","mental toxins","spiritual
toxins",...Those ones may be as well different category.

Poor digestion caused by
-Diet (eating foods that kill)
-Diet-eating food that is not compatible with your blood type
-Diet-Poor food mixing
-not enough chewing
-stress
-others

Diet without good balance of essential(E) nutrients
-Imbalance in Minerals
-Imbalance in Vitamins
-Imbalance in Fats
-Imbalance in Amino-acids
-Imbalance in Others
-----------------------------------------

It is not my intention to try to put all of them here, so ...
These are just some of many many possible causes.

Though I have try to put those causes in different categories, they are
causing each other and multiplying each other and this categorization is
only to make it easily explained. In reality it is not possible to isolate
only one or few causes and look at them separate. Different causes activate
each other.

For example: Sitting in front of CRT screen is causing significantly higher
mercury evaporation from your Amalgam fillings. Than you are affected not
only by the radiation and Amalgam, but also by the extra Mercury foams that
get released by this combination.
Ref.: http://vest.gu.se/~bosse/Mercury/abs/ortendahl91a.html

While one isolated cause may not be dangerous, put together many causes and
it can kill you.

So, I am doing it only to easily explain how different causes may cause
cancer in different ways.

We can start developing any degenerative disease by having any of the
combination of those causes.
Now, because we are unique, what may cause cancer for me, won't even make a
smallest problem for someone else.

The main idea in Larry's Book is to remove that what is causing cancer and
to let our body heal itself.
Sounds simple, but, what is the main cause for my cancer, may not be of
any importance for your cancer.

Take a look in four different man: John Jack Tom Don
Lets say that their blood type is: O A B AB
http://home.online.no/~dusan/blood_type.html

Let's say that 100% of those causes mean that you have collected enough to
get cancer.
And let's say that you have to remove at least 70% of all causes in order
to let your body cure itself.

All this story is to understand why someone get cured and other don't.

Lets say that John's causes of cancer were 30%amalgam, 10% Toxins in colon,
30% diet, 30% others.
So let's say John totally improve his diet, his colon,and his teeth, and
leave 30% of other causes like they were and he get cured.

Suppose Jack's causes of cancer were 30%nickel, 30% Toxins in colon, 30%
diet, 10% others.
So let's say Jack totally improve his diet, his colon, his emotional and
mental, and he forget his teeth and about 5% of other causes what with
nickel makes 35%. He get better, but he still have cancer for a years.

Lets say that Tom's causes of cancer were 40%emotional, 10% Toxins in
colon, 40% diet, 10% others.
So let's say Tom cut down his emotional causes to only 10%, totally improve
his diet, and he leave his colon like it is so his score is now (30%) , but
he still cure himself.

Lets say that Don's causes of cancer were 30%radiation, 30% Toxins in
colon, 30% diet, 10% others.
Suppose Don totally improve his diet, and he cleans his colon, cut down
others causes to 5% but he is still living in the same house where he is
exposed to the high level of the harmful radiation.
His score is now 35% and he continue getting worse and he eventually die.

In reality, things are not so simple, but this simplified model may help us
understand why? and how?
In reality combinations are many times more complicated, and we are dealing
with thousands of possible causes.

I think you have got my point.
And my point is : You still did not cut down "your score to 30%".

So with doing what you did, you have maybe cut down your causes to 50%, but
there is still 20% way to go.

Do next:

- Cleanse your teeth from amalgam , nickel and other dental metal.(This one
cost extra money!)
- Adjust your diet for your blood type (This one does not cost extra money!)
- Do ultimate fast again. (This one saves money!) It does not helps much
taking supplements, if your colon can not absorb it.

- Do gallstones liver-gallbladder cleanse (This one saves money because you
are not eating 24 h!)
http://home.online.no/~dusan/gallstones.html

- Chew your food longer.
- Meditate, relax,
- Forgive and Ask for forgiveness
- love yourself more and Love others more
- Do everyday something for yourself and something for others and stop
focusing only on disease
- Talk with people about your problems. You do not necessary have to spend
money for Psychologists.
- Go to the church and confess , even if you do not believe in God or
religion
- Do not hate anyone for anything
- Liberate yourself from: anger, fear, doubt,....
- Move your bed.
- Change you house.
- Change your job.

- Keep your TV-set out of the house.
- Keep most of electronic devices in your house disconnected from
electricity when not in use.
(especially those with a large heating element or with a large
Electro-motor)

- Avoid using cellular phone. (It is radiating microwaves)

- Avoid preparing your food in microwave oven, or on the electric stove.
- Use gas burning stove if cooking foods. (does not cost so much to invest
in !)

Purchase juice machine and have at least one or more days in a weak only
vegetable juices or wheat grass or barley grass juices. Make your own
Wheat or barley grass.

Do not be afraid of Flaxseed oil ! Use it !
I have never seen person who was harmed with fresh expeller pressed flaxseed oil !

And 100% of people have been feeling better after they started using it
every day. It will make you sweat more.

Use Colloidal minerals.
I have never seen person who was harmed with Colloidal minerals!
And 100% of people have been feeling better after they started using it
every day.
Colloidal minerals will also make you sweat more.

If using soy products, use only miso and tamari, at least 2 years
fermented. Do not use it every day, and do not use it the same week that
you are consuming milk products !
Never use raw miso or tamari soy sauce. IT MUST BE BOILED ! Use It In The
SOUPS, or tea!
Miso will make you sweat more!

LEARN ! Fact that you are not getting better mean that You still do not
know enough!
http://home.online.no/~dusan/cancer.html

>>>>>My urologist (and I've shopped around for one who didn't have obvious
dollar signs in his eyes and who would support me in "alternative" healing
methods) tells me he could get my psa into the "safe zone" within a few
days with drugs. But what would that prove, he asks? He tells me that my
psa level is the best indicator he has of my prostate health. In our
on-line discussion group here, many are talking about lowering their psa by
various methods. What is the point unless it is a "natural" level? Who
wants a low psa unless they have a healthy prostate?<<<<<<<

Very good point, and very good urologist.

Focus on health and learning, and forget your PSA.
Try to feel your health, try to feel your body, and focus on getting better.

Try jumping every day 10 min on the Mini Trampoline. It is fantastic way
of improving health.
I have met person who has cured AIDS with 10 min jumping per day !

Try oxygen therapy. Food grade hydrogen peroxide can help cleansing colon.

Learn !

Web is full of knowledge. You do not much money to get it.
Get in touch with someone who is in the same position and learn together.

There is at least 1 500 000 important things I forgot to write about in
this letter!
Discover them yourself!

Read what others says, but try it before making final conclusion if
something is good or wrong !

Dusan Stojkovic http://home.online.no/~dusan/dusan.html

Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 16:50:09 +0100
To: "Prostate Discussion" <Pralt-discuss@prostate90.com>
From: Dusan Stojkovic <dusan@online.no>
Subject: PROSTATE90 Re Frustrated and nervous -> battery

One more thing:

You do not need to take out from your mouth teeth with root filling in
order to get better.

Sterilize your mouth with a simple device.

Mouth and body sterilizer:
--------------------------
All you need is :

- One battery of 3V, or 4.5V or of 9V
- Two isolated cables, each long 60 cm (24 inch)

- something made of silver or Gold, small enough to put it in your mouth
(some other metal will do for a short time, benefit is much bigger than harm)

Take for example two small silver spoons. Any spoon will do for a short
time, benefit is much bigger than harm.

Connect each spoon with one cable.
Put both spoons in your mouth.

Put one spoon on one side of your tooth, and other spoon one the other side
of your tooth.

Hold in your hands free ends of the two cables that are connected to the
spoons in your mouth.

Touch with your "left hand cable" "plus +" on the 4.5V battery, and in the
same time with your right hand cable touch "minus -". You will feel Electro
cut.

If it is too uncomfortable try with 3 V battery.

What you have is simple electronic pulser. You should produce one or two
pulses every second , and in less than a 2 hour your teeth will be totally
sterile, and not only teeth but the biggest part of your body.

If you switch your hands, once left on the "plus", once right on the "plus"
you will get something like AC with 1 Hz frequency.

That is even more powerful than only DC pulser.

If you are keeping one spoon in your hand and one spoon in your mouth, you
can use 9V battery and sterilize your whole body.

It is much cheaper than Ozone therapy, and it can produce the same effect.

You may argue that it is not as comfortable, but, you can get use to the
pulses.

Don't do it if you are pregnant or having really bad heart !

If you do it for many hours, you can even kill the biggest worms- tapeworms.

So, spend your $5 and cure yourself !

It is as well tested on children. It can cure sore trout or flu in less
than 3 hours of treatment.

But, when child get sick, I think it is better to let them go through this
infection, because it helps cleansing body and it helps developing antibodies.

Use it only in a special emergency.
Forget antibiotics.

It is also killing Viruses , yeasts, bacterias and protozoa. Antibiotics
kill only bacterias, and not those one inside your teeth.

Antibiotics also cause yeast infections to spread.

Dusan Stojkovic :-)

To:"Prostate Discussion" <Pralt-discuss@prostate90.com>
Subject: Re: PROSTATE90 Frustrated and nervous
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 03:42:07 -0800

Dear Bill,

I understand your frustration and fear. Perhaps you should call me after
perusing below.

We are developing prostatitis workshops and a new book to come out this
Fall, with a panoply of newly researched cures for prostatitis.

Prostatitis is a precursor to, much more pervasive and in many ways more
insidious than PCa. For many the urinary/erectile dysfunction symptoms are
far worse, meanwhile it is becoming cancer in most.

Yet, Medicine offers only antibiotics which suppress the symptoms in 30-40%,
of the cases, leaving the infection to continue to fester, (as determined by
EPS), with an immune system severely weakened by the antibiotics.
Prostatitis causes elevated PSAs, explaining why yours went down temporarily
with the antibiotics, then rises, often even higher.

The biopsies you are doing can hasten the cancer, aggravating the
prostatitis. Problems in the mouth will continue to push the progression.
You also need to read Dr. Kelley's little book, "One Answer to Cancer",
available in the bookstore on http://www.prostate90.com or see
http://www.healthy.net/library/books/options/kelly.htm

I know some of these protocols are expensive, but that doesn't change the
causes, and in nearly all cases are far cheaper than the Medical
alternatives. Also the Medical approaches tend to compromise health, longer
term, while these protocols strengthen the immune system and promote longer
term health.

Please read "Prostatitis" on http://www.prostate90.com and review the Dental
chapter in my book. Much of what I wrote on Dental, 2 years ago, is now
mainstream and studies in progress will confirm most of the rest.

Have you had an EPS? Result?

Peenuts and NeoProstate will likely cure the prostatitis, over 4-8 months,
when combined with the rest of my program. We are researching other
treatments, the most positive being the German protocol, Photopherisis, not
FDA approved in the US, so available underground and in other countries.
Where do you live?

Photopherisis involves purifying the blood with the combination of
Ultraviolet and Ozone, takes 2-3 weeks, costs $900-1200. It works about
95%, by cleansing all bacteria and viruses from the blood, even Herpes. It
is probably 100%, when combined with the rest of my program. I can help you
find the treatment, should you wish to pursue it.

On Ozone, See Gary Null, http://www.oxytherapy.com/oxyfiles/oxy00334.html
and The Carolina Center http://www.he.net/~center/therapy.HTM and below
article. On Ultra-violet see http://www.he.net/~center/therapy.HTM

Your best hope is to diagnose/treat your prostatitis and then work
diligently to rebuild your immune system, avoiding the counter productive
protocols.

Best,

Larry

Larry Clapp, Ph.D., J.D.
lclapp@prostate90.com

Author, "Prostate Health in 90 Days, Without Drugs or Surgery", Hayhouse
9/97, currently the best selling prostate book, in 9th printing.
http://www.prostate90.com

Disclaimer: I am not a medical doctor. I am primarily an educator and not a
practitioner.
I am a provider of information on healing methods based on my own healing
experience.
The responsibility to accept and apply this information for your own health
lies directly
with you and your Doctor.

The CAROLINA CENTER for Alternative and Nutritional Medicine
Telephone: (919) 571-4391
4505 Fair Meadow Lane-Suite 111 Toll-Free Information: (800) 473-9812
Raleigh, NC 27607 Fax: (919) 571-8968

Ozone gas is a powerful oxidizing agent, second only to fluorine in its
ability to oxidize and disinfect. Ozone gas was discovered over 100 years
ago but it was not until World War I that it was used medically to treat
wounds and other infections. In the 1930's, German researchers found other
uses for ozone, including the treatment of various inflammatory bowel
disorders, such as ulcerative colitis, Crohn's Disease, and chronic
bacterial diarrhea with a method called rectal Insufflation. Then they
started treating the blood directly with ozone, and discovered that when
ozone is administered this way, it will destroy viruses and other infectious
or abnormal particles present in the blood. This technique was called
Autohemotherapy. The most current research has shown that the unstable
electrons of ozone blast holes through the membranes of viruses, bacteria,
yeasts, and abnormal tissue cells, thereby destroying them.
Ozone is created by passing an electrical charge through a flow of oxygen
which separates the oxygen molecule into a radicalized unstable form of
oxygen, known chemically as O3 or ozone. These radical ozone molecules
quickly seek to re-stabilize, thereby releasing a burst of oxidative energy
wherever they are applied. This oxidative power of ozone has proven to be
effective in destroying lipid-enveloped viruses, such as Epstein-Barr,
Herpes, cytomegalovirus, and viruses that cause hepatitis. Research has also
shown that ozone easily destroys the HIV "virus" in the laboratory. Data
from this study can be found in "Blood: the Journal of Hematology," October,
1991. In addition, ozone has been used successfully in the treatment of
arthritis, cancer, multiple sclerosis, cardiovascular disease, and many
other conditions.
Over 5000 physicians world-wide routinely use ozone in their medical
practices. Over the past ten years, there has been a dramatic increase of
interest in the medical use of ozone among physicians in this country. I
have personally used ozone in my own practice and found it to be an
effective therapy when used with a complete program of body cleansing and
supportive therapies. And because ozone is such a powerful oxidizing agent,
it is imperative that it be used under medical supervision. Ozone treatments
should be combined with a thorough body cleansing program because of the
intense detoxification that occurs when it enters the bloodstream. It is
also true that any therapy will be more effective if the body is not already
overloaded with toxins.
There are several ways to administer ozone, depending upon the condition
being treated. As an ambient gas, ozone is excellent for disinfecting
wounds, especially those that are difficult to heal. Most infections occur
because of the invasion of anaerobes that do not thrive in an oxygen rich
environment and the application of ozone places radicalized oxygen in an
area of anaerobic proliferation. Ozone can also be given by "rectal
Insufflation." This process introduces ozone into the colon through the
rectum, much like an enema, but with ozone gas instead of water. Ozone is
taken up by the hepatic vein that lies next to the rectum, and might also
enter the body across the intestinal mucus. This is one reason why body
cleansing is so important prior to the introduction of ozone.
Direct exposure of the blood to ozone can be carried out in a number of
ways. The most common and the most popular among German physicians is
"Autohemotherapy." A small amount of blood is drawn from the body, and
placed in a vacuum bottle after which O3 is infused into the bottle. The
bottle is then shaken, and the "Ozonated" blood re-infused. This method does
not seem to elicit as intense a reaction as does direct intravenous infusion
of ozone. The method of administering direct IV ozone is not as popular with
the German physicians, but it is gaining more acceptance among interested
doctors in this country. It has been proven that even this way of ozone
delivery has very low risk factors. Air, which contains nitrogen, never
enters the body so an air embolus cannot occur. In fact, ozone is now
carried in ambulances in Germany and administered directly by intravenous
injection in patients having just suffered a CVA (stroke). It appears that
when ozone is administered within 24 to 48 hours of a stroke, much of the
paralysis and other post-stroke complications can be avoided. The use of
ozone in spinal cord injury may also prove efficacious in preventing
permanent paralysis by reducing swelling around the spinal cord, but this
has yet to be explored.
Ozone can also penetrate human skin, and this appears to be the most natural
way of introducing ozone into the body. It is, by far, the most comfortable
for the patient. Systems may vary, but the idea is to put ozone through the
skin by using an ozonating bath of some kind. The key is to keep the skin
pores open while gas is supplied around the body. Some systems employ a
steambath chamber that fills with ozone, while using warm water to keep the
pores open. Other systems include the use of a bag that is filled with
ozone. The patient climbs into the bag and ties it at the ends to prevent
gas from escaping. The major disadvantage of this system is that the body
cannot be kept warm enough to allow the skin pores to remain open.
Ozone, with all its miraculous properties, remains as one of the most potent
therapeutic substances on Earth. Therefore, many factors need to be
considered when designing and implementing a program that includes ozone
therapy. To be most effective, ozone should not be used alone, but rather,
in conjunction with other therapies. It should be used in a supervised
environment since the concentration of ozone is of great importance. High
concentrations can cause red blood cells to become fragile and rupture.
Consequently, all ozone that is used for medical treatment should pass
through an ozone analyzer first, which calculates the exact concentration of
ozone before it is administered. Ozone is also a respiratory irritant,
although some inhalation may actually be therapeutic. Ozone does have some
difficulty penetrating into the deep tissue spaces of the body where viruses
are known to hide. Therefore, good lymphatic flow and proper adjunctive
therapies are necessary to increase oxygen/ozone perfusion.
In the atmosphere, ozone is responsible for keeping the earth healthy by
buffering the ultra-violet light of the Sun, and oxidizing the pollutants in
the air. When the level of ozone is high it simply means that ozone is
trying to oxidize these harmful substances. It is also much easier to
measure ozone than it is the pollutants, so ozone is used as a marker to
indicate the air quality on any given day. If the amount of ozone in the air
did not rise on days when pollution levels were high, one of two things
would happen. Either you would die immediately of toxic air poisoning, or
you could not venture outside without a gas mask.
Is ozone the magic bullet? Is it the greatest medical discovery of the
century? Is it the cure for AIDS and cancer? Personally, I don't think so.
However, I do believe that ozone is an important tool in medicine and should
have a place in the treatment of disease, because most of the diseases
afflicting humans today can be traced to diminishing levels of oxygen and a
compromised immune system. Any therapy that can increase oxygen at the
cellular level deserves to be incorporated into a complete treatment
program. Ozone also possesses particular properties that make it a potent
anti-viral substance. This is significant since many of today's most
devastating diseases appear to be viral in origin. These diseases need
active, powerful intervention in order to be reversed. Ozone is a potent
immune system stimulant that can also help to restore the bodies' own
defenses, thereby making it possible to resist some of these intrepid
viruses. Of course, building back the immune system depends on a complete
program, including thorough detoxification with body cleansing. So, when
given in conjunction with a program of thorough body cleansing, lymphatic
massage, supplementation, and other adjunctive therapies that stimulate the
bio-oxidative process, ozone can do miraculous things. And, it is up to all
of us, patients and doctors alike, to demand access to this incredible
healing substance.