- Quantum Physics and the Ancestors by greggechols
17 y
3,428 8 Messages Shown
Blog: Dreaming Alive
It’s amazing to think that what we are doing in this moment actually has importance to the past. It’s something I certainly never thought about until just a few years ago: and it wasn’t a reading of Quantum Physics that helped bring about that revelation, either.
Actually, it was in a Mayan Temascal sweat lodge in Tulum, Mexico, that this awareness came to me. I’d never experienced a sweat lodge before, and it was as if the spirit of my ancestors—the spirits of those who came before me—came to my awareness. It was a powerful “vision” of sorts, one that instilled in me the fact that the healing work I was doing was, in turn, healing them, the ancestors. I intuitively knew this had truth, especially in how my work could be affecting my familial ancestors
Little did I know this work would affect more than my family. It is as though our work at healing ourselves heals the future as well. I guess the work with Quantum Resonance proves that: the work by David Bohm and writings by Michael Talbot prove these things.
The fact that so many of us are gathering “insights” into facts and truths about the natural world prove this as being true on many levels. We are being taught by the world around us, despite what our science textbooks might have us believe. The wind, the stones, the water: they are all sharing wisdom with us, and it is up to us to be open and receptive to this wisdom.
Everything is shifting and changing. Everything is sharing, moving, wiggling, laughing. Everything is abundantly being shared with each of us. Everything is filled with ancestral wisdom, if we can allow ourselves the opportunity to experience that. Such wisdom is a gift, and it is to our benefit if we open it and not leave it for the next generation to open. If only we can open it, its work will already be underway for the next generation, and those who came before us as well.
You see, it is possible that the ancestors seek healing in ways they couldn’t heal themselves. It is as though they couldn’t complete a task, and left it for the future generations to complete it. It’s inconceivable to imagine in what ways the task was left for future generations, but it is sometimes left, nonetheless.
I firmly believe what is called the idea of leaving something for yourself for a future life. Robert Thurman explained this concept in an interview over a decade ago:
Tibetans believe it’s like a micro-cellular CD-ROM that’s placed in what you might call the spiritual gene—a gene with all its codes, but spiritual, because it doesn’t go with the physical genes or physical flesh, but it goes instead in the rebirthed soul of the begin. It’s like a genetic code in the soul that goes from body to body. In the sixteenth century, a teacher had planted this on the spiritual gene of this person, and it suddenly was triggered now, many lifetimes later, in the twentieth century.
There are truly treasures everywhere: treasures that are given to us to heal ourselves, heal our ancestors, and heal the future. These treasures might come in our DNA, they might come in the song of a bird; they might come in a sunset, or even in a National Football League kickoff return. Who knows! The key is to be open, receptive, and in wonderment: for the possibility for the impossible is all around.
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![This is NOT me. This is just randomly assigned avatar, until I upload my own photo. Click here to see my profile.](https://www.curezone.org/upload/Members/Faces/tn-pygmymarmosets.jpeg) greggechols
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- Wow, thanks again, Gregg! by Liora Leah
19 y
1,118
Reading your blog, just had a thought or two I wanted to share: We ARE our own ancestors! and we are our own future selves! If we are spiritual BEings, then we exist out of what we think of as conventional time. When we shed these bodies made from the earth, we go back to our essence, our "pure" (for lack of a better word) spiritual etheric BEing. we live forever, we have always existed, and everything is, was and will be simultaneously, as the All-That-Is is continually unfolding, creating, BEing, and there is no "past" or "future" only the NOW-time. So, if this is True, and we find ourselves living "forever" and always, and we choose to "come back" via re-embodiment (aka reincarnation), we are the SAME Spiritual BEings we have always been, we're just wearing "new" bodies, "temporarily", of course-- and these are all just human terms, as Time seems "real" to us, and linear, when it is not and there really is no such thing as Time for it is a human illusion. So, if this is True, then we have "already" existed in the 3-D earthplane under the human illusion of "Time", and so we have already been, or always are, our own ancestors, as well as our own "future" selves!
Does that make sense?
"The Nature of Time": http://curezone.com/blogs/m.asp?f=356&i=4
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![This is my avatar. Click here to see my profile.](http://curezone.com/upload/Members/New02/tn-Yard_060.jpg) Liora Leah
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- Re: Wow, thanks again, Gregg! by greggechols
19 y
1,231
Yes, Liora, this makes sense! I love the term "We are our Own Ancestors," and I run and jump and play with that one all the time. Have you ever heard Willie Nelson's song, "I am my own Grandpa"? Kind of like that.
I'm wondering if you experienced some of these truths during your work with the plant medicine? I "get" this stuff in my dreams, visions, and very deeply and richly in working with the plant medicines. It's so amazing. WE have created all of this, and it's so beautiful how we've HIDDEN this from ourselves. I'm so glad that I have opportunities to re-discover all of this from time to time. Liora, you are gifted with this as well, and perhaps your own re-discovering, re-membering, is an energetic light for all those around you. Perhaps you help them re-member just by being around you! I'm not sure how this all works, but I know something is moving, and there's so much more I want to re-member and re-discover!
Thanks for your words, your writings, and for this space to share all these wonderful gifts! Love and blessings, ge
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![This is NOT me. This is just randomly assigned avatar, until I upload my own photo. Click here to see my profile.](https://www.curezone.org/upload/Members/Faces/tn-pygmymarmosets.jpeg) greggechols
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- Re: Wow, thanks again, Gregg! by Liora Leah
19 y
1,208
Actually, bits and pieces of understanding have been floating around in my head for a long time, seemingly fragmented, and I had one of those "ah, ha!" moments while reading your blog!
The phrase "we are our own ancestors" came from something Deena Metzger once said at a Dare'. My memory is poor, but it had something to do with her telling us that when we dream or vision, the ancestors are speaking to us, and that we are incorporating what they tell us into our own souls, so when we share the insights with others, we are ourselves the ancestors, as they are speaking through us.
While I believe that Deena meant it metaphorically, I think it is quite literally true. Case in point: I was working with a healer who did a soul retrieval for me. She "traveled" to the "Other side of the Veil" to retrieve fragments of my soul that had "split off" due to trauma. She asked my Spirit Guides if they could assist her in bringing the soul-fragments back across the "Veil", and to help her incorporate them back into me. She told me that one of the Guides helping her was a Native American elder; she didn't know if he was a medicine man or a tribal leader.
Months later my Spirit Guides told me that one of my "past lives" was as a Lakota medicine man, and that he was the Spirit Guide that had helped the healer with my soul retrieval! AAAK! mind boggling! So, if we were to write this up in hypothetical terms, it might go like this:
If I was a Lakota medicine man in my past life, then at some point during that "life" I/he left the body (i.e. experienced biological death) and returned, in some kind of spiritual etheric form, to the "other side of the Veil" i.e bodiless dimension.
If I was in a spiritual etheric form, then at some point in "time" I/he decided to go back into a new body i.e. reincarnate.
At some point in "time", after who-knows-how-many earthplane lifetimes, I/he incarnated as "Liora Leah".
The Lakota medicine man, then, although not a "biological ancestor", could certainly be called a "spiritual ancestor", and since he is me, i.e. we are the same spiritual etheric being, then I am my own ancestor!
And, add this to the mix: if all the above is true, and I am the reincarnated Lakota medicine man, how did he get to be one of my Spirit Guides?!?
Ah, this is where multi-dimensionality comes in. My Spirit Guides have told me that we are existing in more than one place at the same "time". We are incarnated Spirit beings on the earthplane; at the same time, we may be incarnated in other bodies in other dimensions; some parts of us may be without biological bodies and be "Spirit Guides" to other human beings; some other parts of us could be out creating new worlds and stars in some other dimension(s), etc, ad infinitum! Given this, it is perfectly plausible to presume that a part of us could also be our own Spirit Guide(s)! And, to top it all off, there is no past and no future, only the NOW, so everything we are BEing and everything we are Doing is happening all at once!
So, given the nature of "time" and of "multi-dimensionality", new hypotheses emerge: if one of my Spirit Guides is the Lakota medicine man, then there is no question that not only am I my own ancestor, but I am also my own Spirit Guide! This certainly accounts for my Spirit Guides telling me that "We are You are Us are One!"
And, if there is no such thing as "time", then there is no such thing as a "past life" and there are no such things as "ancestors" because the word implies the spirit of a being who lived in the "past". Therefore, there is only a NOW life and there are only "NOWcestors". Therefore, I AM my own NOWcestors and I AM my own SPIRIT GUIDES and THERE IS NO SEPARATION BETWEEN ME AND my NOWcestors and my Spirit GUIDES, for WE ARE YOU ARE US ARE ONE IN THE NOW TIME!
AACCK!....ARRGH...sorry, Gregg, I think some brain cells just went flying off somewhere out into the ethers...!
Liora "Lakota medicine man/Nowcestor/Spirit Guide" Leah
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![This is my avatar. Click here to see my profile.](http://curezone.com/upload/Members/New02/tn-Yard_060.jpg) Liora Leah
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- Re: Wow, thanks again, Gregg! by Liora Leah
19 y
1,094
well, i just experienced a "glitch in the Matrix"! thought i wrote and posted another message, only to find, here i am, writing and yet to post another message!
Here goes, for the second time, or is it the first, really, as everything is happening in the NOW time, so...
Well, last night i was kinda goofing around, but thought about it and read what i wrote, or am writing, or...how does one put anything down in writing when there is no past tense?
...anyway, i digress...
the area of my 3rd chakra/solar plexus is feeling very tight, as whenever i get an "aha" ...
...if there really is no such thing as "time", then what we, in our 3D linear way of thinking, call "ancestors", "past lives", "Spirit Guides", "present" self, "future" self, are all really aspects of our interdimensional/multidimensional Self, our One True Self, with all "parts" of OurSelf interacting with each other in the NOW time, across all plains of existence, "space-time", dimensionality, within the All-That-Is, and as the All-That-Is is constantly in the NOW time and constantly unfolding, then we, too, as part of the WHOLE, are constantly in the NOW time and are constantly unfolding in our own Creation ...
yowza! popped a few more brain cells, a cerebral artery is threatening to blow, and my stomach feels like it's going to "pop" as Neo did in the Matrix when he first experienced the TRUTH of his existence...
gotta go and ask my Spirit Guides about all of this, or, really ask MYSELF about all of this...!
thank you once again, Gregg, for your thought-provoking and insightful writing! Love and Light, Liora Leah
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![This is my avatar. Click here to see my profile.](http://curezone.com/upload/Members/New02/tn-Yard_060.jpg) Liora Leah
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- And yes, Liora! by greggechols
19 y
1,420
This mind-blowing, eye-popping, third-chakra busting experience is so good. Thank you. I'm ready to experience what MY past, future, present, outer, and inner SELVES have to share with me as I close my eyes for some dreaming. Thanks again. blessings, ge
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- Quite the Discussion! by YourEnchantedGardener
19 y
1,128
Hey Greg, Hey Liora!
Quite the discussion, hear in the early morning hours
as we Dream Alive.
I like the Essene metaphors in regard to some of this.
These metaphors are reflected in the Enchanted Garden
Teachings and the invite from Mother Herself to Plant Your Dream!
I have been realizing once again that the message was intended
for me first, as well as others.
We inspire Enchanted Garden Consciousness through modeling
the love we want to share.
So it goes back to ONE SEED.
Plant a Seed, Grow a Whole New World.
Who is the SEED that asks to be PLANTED?
It is our own, and it asks to be planted in our own backyard
in fertile soil. It is about coming home. It is about making a sacred
site where we are, and becoming the SEEMLESS plant that CONNECTS
all the WORLDS inside and outside out.
The Essenes, as the story goes, while getting reports that the Romans
were on their way to off them, took the time to dot the "T''s and "Q''s
so to speak of the Dead Sea Scrolls. Then they filed away
this UNCENSORED ORIGINAL COPY of the TEXTS in little CLAY
URNS and CAREFULLY planted them in little caves, some in Quamran.
The Inspiration that KNEW already KNEW that
there would be a lot of EDITORS who would like to
NIX some THIS and THAT passage for their own BEST INTERESTS
that had to do many TIMES with CONTROLLING OTHERS through
MAKING UP the RULES as THEY SAW THEM.
IN the EARLY MONTHS of 1947, a little Arab boy was playing
COPS and ROBBERS so to speak with his best BUDS.
He found the CAVES. A LOT of THOSE ORIGINAL TEXTS are so
EMBARASSING to the EDITED TEXTS that many of the ARCHEOLOGISTS
who found them have withheld LOTS of this ORIGINAL INFO.
But the Beauty of it all is that we each have the WHOLE STORY
in each of OUR CELLS and the more we OPEN UP like this to EACH
OTHER we REMIND ourselves of the WHOLE TRUTH that is CONTAINED
in EACH OF US.
The point is to bring it here, here in 3 D.
Some people speak of this world as an illusion.
I prefer to imagine that this is a world of props that can be
manipulated to inspire us to get in touch and connect all the Worlds
of consciousness.
The SOUL in the Essene Work, is called our INDIVIDUALITY within GOD.
THE SOUL and the Earth are SOIL MATES.
So that is why when we do the NATURAL ACTS
like taking off our SHOES and WALKING BAREFOOT
we are RE MEM BER ING.
So it is good to see you all again here in this place of NOW
were we can CONNECT the WHOLE WORLD.
Each each inspire each other through the love we allow.
GOD IS LOVE., and we are a PIECE of THAT LOVE.
My birthday in this life was a couple months after those
caves in Quamran were found.
We were all there, Liora. Greg. We are all here.
It's all about connecting, and making the most
of the narrow places--the feelings--that either brings
us together or hold us apart. The Soul asks to be retrieved
and it is Hiding, as the Scrolls, in those caves.
Love from Your EG
4:29 AM
October 25, 05
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- Re: Quite the Discussion! by greggechols
19 y
1,277
Hey, Leslie!
Your message is fabulous. So poetic, full of love, and tender, juicy, moistly wonderful SOIL!! It IS ABOUT RE-MEM-BER-ING! And, yes, we ARE all so connected that each little re mem ber ing that we do helps everyone else re-mem-ber, also! I LOVE the feeling of us being SOIL MATES with the Earth, and that is so right on! It is so fun remembering all of this! What a joyful ride this is, re-awakening each cell, one by one (sometimes, many at once) of our amazing connection and partnership with EVERYTHING! May the love of this journey, and the love abundantly flowing and flowering out of our BE-INGS, bless each of us on this planet as we collectively and remarkably recall, remember, resoil, replant, and reexperience our true selves! blessings, ge
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![This is NOT me. This is just randomly assigned avatar, until I upload my own photo. Click here to see my profile.](https://www.curezone.org/upload/Members/Faces/tn-pygmymarmosets.jpeg) greggechols
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