There is 1 message in this issue. Topics in today's digest: 1. Ira M. Fine: From: "Hippocrates Health" <hypocrates___@xxxxxxx.xxxx _______________________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 04:34:24 PET From: "Hippocrates Health" <hypocrates___@xxxxxxx.xxxx Subject: Ira M. Fine: Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 09:48:39 EDT From: IRAMFINE@aol.com Subject: Re: My theories, motivation, and backround Hi, To the many people who indicated they want me to send them health related information. I would like to offer you all a perspective on myself. What started out to be a short explanation of where my health information comes from has turned into a much longer explanation on some of my theories, and specific product recommendations, and ethical questions.
As a child, I grew up with many serious health problems. It never occurred to me that they were caused by poor nutrition and unsanitary conditions. Fortunately for me, my wife was knowledgeable about the health benefits of vitamins, minerals, and herbs. I saw many chronic health conditions I had had since childhood completely disappear or improve greatly so as not to be a major problem. This made me a believer in alternative health theories. My father came to live with us when he was 78 years old. He had many health problems such as high blood pressure, bronchitis, emphysemia, asthma, vertigo, tinnitus, prostate and skin cancer, and many more. I dedicated my life to curing his maladies. Over a period of four years, his health improved greatly under my direct care. His doctor had the attitude that vitamins and minerals would not hurt him, so he did not try to stop me, but my father's attitude was that he believed in the doctor, and his doctors had to approve of everything I did. This is when my studying of alternative health began in earnest. Except for my wife, my whole family thought I was a radical health nut. However, they could not deny seeing the radical improvement in my father's health over that six year period. After my father died, I went into a deep depression. He did not die from the cancer, but he died because his doctor told us he was cured of a bronchial infection, and the doctor did not need to see him again. The doctor was wrong. As a result, I have adopted a personal crusade to help others where I did not help my father enough. My wife and I do many hours of health study research each week, and some is from reading books and corresponding with knowledgeable people whom we know. Most of mine is on the internet, and I also subscribe to many health related internet mailing lists and subscriptions to magazines, most of which are alternative health in nature. Much of what I share with those to whom I send information on my mailing lists are from some of these mailing lists to which I subscribe which I copy and paste and then forward. We are well known at all of the health food stores within a 40 mile range of where we live in eastern Pennsylvania. I do not accept everything I read or receive as necessarily my being in agreement with, but I always try to keep an open mind. I have found that some things that at first reading may seem to be unbelievable quackery, but upon closer scrutiny, has shown to be totally very valid. Hulda Clark's work with the parasite zapper was one example of that for me personally. Now I believe her work and theories to be totally valid, and I whole heartedly recommend her books and theories to others. My wife and I have both been on her program, including buying a zapper, and the results we achieved were amazing. The established allopathic medical community nor anyone else has been able to disprove her theories. We have also tried Earl Conroy's Thyrodine and ImmunoGuard for my hypothyroidism, and my wife's weak adrenal problems. We found that we both had much more energy and motivation, and improvement in our mental attitudes. Over the years, we have tried many of those MLM health product schemes, and we have found little noticeable improvements. That is not to say the products are not good, or have not shown good results for other people who have taken them. It is just that we did not perceive any health improvements, so we think the hype may have been exagerated for these particular products. I believe in the healing power of magnets: I sleep on a Nikken mattress pad, and I wear Nikken insoles in my shoes. I have osteoarthritis and rheumatism. The magnetic products helped me immensely. I also drink distilled water with coral calcium added, and I drink Dr. Drucker's Quest for Health MicroMinerals. These two products also have produced fantastic and very noticeable health improvements for me and my family and friends. These products are MLM marketed, and I am a distributor for all of these products.
Is it unethical for me to recommend these products and then suggest you order them through me?? Yes and no. Certainly if I provide you with my distributor numbers, and many of you do order these products using my distributor number, I will receive a monetary commision from these companies. Is it wrong for me to benefit financially from recommending products that work well and bring relief or solve health problems for others? I think the answer lies in intent and results. It really is not my intent to make money from these products, but it is my intent to help others with sharing health information, and if this information includes sharing products that I personally believe in with others, I think that is all right. What is important is that if you try these products, you are also happy and very satisfied with them because you have noticed the health benefits and improvements they claim. With the exception of Nikken magnetic products, which I believe are grossly overpriced, any company that I deal with provides at least a 30 day customer satisfaction guarantee. You all are welcome to order the products directly from the company without using my distributor number, so that I would not receive any kind of a commision from your purchase. What is important is that your health problems are solved or alleviated. I am not trying to build a downline on these MLM products. I really only became a distributor so that I could purchase it myself at distributor cost instead of paying the full retail price. Most of what I do is sharing of found information, and it is up to each reader to evaluate it and accept or reject whatever he or she may decide. If I personally recommend either a particular product, or a particular protocol, or other thing, it is based on my actual experience with that product or protocol. If a particular product works and provides the health benefits claimed, I do not believe it is unethical to endorse or recommend such products. I am not personally receiving any monetary commision or kickback from those recommendations, unless it is something I am a distributor for, and you use my distributor number when ordering those products. Some of what I forward are commercial websites, and their purpose is to persuade readers to purchase their products. Often, I have not actually tried the products these websites are promoting. Many people who know me personally have great respect and credibility for my personal recommendations. For this reason, unless I state that I am personally recommending a specific product or treatment, assume that I am not. Also, I have no degrees or other officially recognized medical credentials. I only have a passionate interest in alternative health and nutritional studies due to trying to find solutions to health problems that I, my family and friends and other loved ones have had. It has become an obsession withme. I believe in God, and I believe that God wants me to operate a rooming boarding residency hotel for people who are in transitional situations, and that God also wants me to help others with health problems based on nutritional, vitamin, mineral, herbal, and other alternative healthmodalities. Ira M. Fine iramfine@aol.com _______________________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________________________________