Can you do both of these at the same time? or is that too much fiber? I plan on eating sensibly while i do the Colonix, no fasting for me right now. Also i saw Renewlife’s liver detox and heavy metal detox kits, are those any good to use with a colon cleanse? Thanks :D   [End]
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Hah! I mentioned to my proctologist that i was taking the Paragon system to rid my self of parasites and she looked at me like i was an insane idiot and immediately ran out of the room, no joke, ran. I was there at the time to go over my colonoscopy results. Most of the parasites i had were in the duodenum, flukes, so i wasn’t expecting it to show up on the scan anyway. Doctors don’t want to hear that their patients are seeking alternative methods and they certainly don’t want to get into a conversation about it becuase they WANT to discredit all of it but they can’t. My general practictio ...
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For over a year now i’ve been passing blood every time i go to the bathroom. Sometimes it’s just blood and sometimes huge clots. It started off as heavy mucous and moved on to the blood, ew. I had a colonoscopy and of course they found nothing and prescribed me some cortisone suppositories that don’t help. They say there’s nothing wrong with me other than some proctitus. I also have huge amounts of gas, it’s incredible, there is no smell to it like you would expect...it’s just air. I’ve done a parasite cleanse, that was fun haha, and a 10 day lemonade diet and neither one of those helped. ...
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Maybe the GCG thins your blood and so it would cause you to bleed very heavily? I know that’s why it’s advised not to drink very much caffeine.   [End]
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The seasalt flush is 2 teaspoons of SEA salt, not table salt, per one quart of warm water. It usually passes in 30 minutes to 1.5 hours. I only use it while fasting in order to move my bowels.   [End]
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Actually they’re the same thing, only most people’s plaque looks like ropes. I passed some small ones (about 4-5inches) on day 6 after a few b/p shakes. They’re black, not brown, so you can definately tell the difference. Mine were like dried out rubber cement.   [End]
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What exactly did you buy? You need to know how concentrated it is before you can know how much to take. I’m using Paragone and it calls for 2 capsules and 15 drops 3 times a day - double that if you’re over 150lbs. which i am. Clarkia is a little different i think.   [End]
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YUCK @ magnesium citrate. They (hospital people) wanted me to drink 30 oz. of that before my colonoscopy, horrible stuff. And it hardly even worked, 24 hours after i drank it i was still passing it. The seasalt flush is MUCH faster acting that that, i should have went with my instinct and substituted the seasalt for the magnesium citrate. On the other hand, even though i haven’t done Hulda’s epsom salt flush yet i had a taste of it and it too is vile! So, pick your sin. Epsom salt is only a problem i think if you use it too often.   [End]
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Too much alarm setting, i’d either not get up at all or not be able to get back down after i did :) I want to try her flush in a few days after my paragone treatment but the problem is...i’m on 3rd shift so i’m awake at night. I suppose it could be translated over to night hours with no problem, i can’t really think of any. Does anyone know of why this wouldn’t also work?   [End]
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Don’t take my word for absolute truth, but once i think i read a post on here saying that they can form in as little as 2 days. Pretty quickly it seems.   [End]
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I was hoping you could suggest a good liquid supplement to take during the MC. I had to stop short of 10 days last time because my brain wasn’t keeping it together very well, my body felt fine though. Thanks :)   [End]
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People expect things to be handed to them. Most, all, of the posts on here deal with your question...it gets old responding to the same question every day with virtually the same response. When i first started gathering information on the Master Cleanse i first read the whole book by Stanley Burroughs, available online for free or from amazon for $6. There’s a link at the top of the forum to it. Then i asked questions and read testimonials. The reason you probably see more posts on ’suffering’ is because if everythings going great you’re less likely to post a question.   [End]
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Can you recommend a good liquid supplement to take during the fast? I too had extreme faintness and could no longer go to the gym much less drive so i had to stop. I’d like to try the fast again, maybe get past day 8, but i’m afraid of the lightheaded ness that made me feel perpetually drunk.   [End]
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I would have liked to zap in conjunction with the Paragone but the guy i ordered it from is being slooooow so that didn’t happen. So, i can only speak from taking the Paragone. If i did have any die off it was barely noticable, i did have some slight trouble falling asleep on day 3 but that happens often anyway. If your zapping is killing critters then i’d say yes, the ammonia suppressents would help you fall asleep if you’re prone to that kind of problem. Did you build your own zapper? Or did you order it? Do you recommend any sites?   [End]
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I 2nd the suggestion to slow down on the flushes...Dr. Clark recommends to do it once every 2 WEEKS and epsom salts on a regular basis is difficult on your organs. How is she eating? It doesn’t take very long at all to form gallstones. You could try this - Flush, then complete a 10 day fast and flush once again and see if the results are better.   [End]
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I’m 24 as well :) and plan on doing the liver/gall flush after my Paragone which will probably be...6 days or so? I was wondering if i would be able to flush out very much since i’m not all THAT old but now i know better. I also found many teeny seed like things in my bowel movements shortly after starting Paragone, so whenever you find out the results of the lab tests please post them - i’d love to know what those things were...they looked like very small crushed up peanuts kinda, except i never eat peanuts!   [End]
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I plan on doing a liver/gall flush after the Paragone, i hope i don’t have to see any more flukes :( but mine didn’t have suckers, just looked like long flat slugs. Some had striations on the ’underneath’ part and one i saw had a Y shaped bit at one end which looked like a picture i found on the net of an adolescent fluke. Paragone has mostly the same herbs that Clarkia does, wormwood, cloves and black walnut. In the capsules there are quite a bit more herbs but i don’t have the bottle with me right now so i can’t say exactly what. I bought mine from an online shop, you can find it from ...
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I ordered one two months ago and never heard back from the email i sent him, very upset. I had hoped to be able to zap along with the Paragone. But i’ve never heard that it will effect how your body utilizes medication.   [End]
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Yeah, not as many though and all sizes, up to 2 inches. I haven’t found any more flukes, i thought i did find some small ones but i decided they could have been the olives on my sandwich from yesterday :)   [End]
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Yeah, remember that yucky picture i posted a link to? ewwww i cannot believe those are in my body, i wish all i had were worms! :) likes baby aliens. Clarkia and Paragone are mostly the same thing i believe, i just went with the cheapest one and so far have been very happy.   [End]
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I’m pretty sure there’s no such thing as ”Clarka” there is however a ”Clarkia”. I went with Paragone and you can’t beat it for the price, $20 is the cheapest i’ve found it online. They all pretty much have the same ingredients, wormwood, cloves and black walnut.   [End]
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That seems like a long time to be trying to still get rid of tapeworms. You might want to try a MEGA dose of CoQ10. You may need to spend quite a bit of money $30-$60ish but it works. If you’re 150lbs the recommended dose is 3000mg’s, or 3grams, which is pretty much a whole bottle of capsules. If you’re over 150lbs then adjust accordingly. I’m 210 and have 4200mgs which i hope does the trick. One dose may not quite do the job either, every three days repeat the dose until you think you got them all, that means you have to be checking for them in your bowell movements. Instead of taking the ...
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I don’t know what any of those things are either! LOL I’m taking Paragone and have had great results, i’m on week 3. It typically takes 4 weeks to rid yourself of parasites with it, 6 weeks is recomended by some if you’re heavily infested. The major herbs in the system are cloves, wormwood and black walnut. Clarkia too has these 3 in it, i can’t say for any other system. From what i’ve gleamed from this board, there isn’t a reliable test for alot of parasites. Mostly i think they look for eggs and not all stool samples have these. If you decide to take the meds, you might want to check wit ...
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I’ve been doing this with just a spoon and the water/salt solution, works just as well and it’s free. Although sometimes the water drains down my throat which is a strange sensation.   [End]
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Stanley Burroughs the author of MC has this to say about honey... WHAT ABOUT THE USE OF HONEY? Honey must not be used at any time internally. It is manufactured from the nectar picked up from the flowers by the bees—good enough in itself, perhaps—then predigested, vomited and stored for their own future use with a preservative added. It is deficient in calcium and has many detrimental effects for the human being. According to one authority, honey is ”a magical and mystical word in Healthfoodland. It is one of the most overpromoted, overpriced product being sold to gull ...
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Are you only using 3 tbs per 60 oz of water? Or that much per glass? Just a little confused. I used 1tbs per glass since i’m overweight but 3 sounds a bit much, but not nearly enough for 60 oz.   [End]
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Most of the posts here deal with your question, you can flip through the pages and find testimonies.   [End]
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If you eat anything then you’ve ruined your fast, sorry to say.   [End]
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Oh, and when i was doing the lemonade fast i passed some mucoid plaque that had tons of pinworms stuck in the gunk. Ick.   [End]
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Well, i caught them in the toilet. They are small but you can see them if you know they’re there. I also found flukes...huge nasty things, like slugs and i know they weren’t something natural that broke away from my intestine. I don’t think worms die off naturally, they can reproduce just fine. Pinworms have to crawl out and lay eggs around the anus though so i suppose it’s possible if the eggs are destroyed before they hatch then they could die out eventually. I’ve also found roundworm looking things too about an inch or two long.   [End]
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On June 16th i had a colonoscopy because of all the blood and mucous i’d been passing, it was freaking me out. No one ever told me i had an ileoscopy too, where they scope the small intestine too. Most critters prefer the small intestine to nest, now why didn’t they see anything? I only found this out yesterday when i got the bill and it was on there, i called and spoke with the secretary and was told the doctor must have thought i should have a full scope. Ugh, i don’t care if i AM under anesthesia, i don’t like cameras being poked in places i haven’t ok’d! They shouldn’t be able to do pr ...
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I’m not following the diet, although i did fast during the first 10 days. Now i just eat regular, i had buffalo wings today :) my colon hates me i know. I saw critters on day 4 of the second set of 15 days, so...19 days into it. But before that i’m fairly certain there were a great many teeny worms but i didn’t care to look closer. When i saw a ’wing’ sticking out on day 19 i couldn’t resist a looksie. I’m still on it, maybe day 23? Not so many wormies are appearing now...either they’re hiding or the worst it over.   [End]
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Yes, that’s mostly right, though you only rest for FIVE days, not 2 weeks. But i didn’t exactly rest during those five days either. Even though i was taking the tincture just as the directions said i had half a bottle left over so during those five days i downed the rest of it. I figured it couldn’t hurt anything especially since i was supposed to be taking a double dose since i’m over 150lbs and i wasn’t. I read a post that said the five days of rest is to let eggs hatch, assuming that the adult stages are already killed off. Sometimes adults carry eggs in their bodies and they’re release ...
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Well, i skipped the doctor process and went straight for the Paragone so i can’t trade any stories with you about that :) I didn’t even think i had any parasites, boy was i wrong. Here’s a little copy/paste from a post i did a few days ago... Ok, at risk of grossing some readers out...i need to know what the heck this thing is. It was about an 2 inches long,.5 inches wide and about 5mm thick. The shape was an oblong with a bit more width at one end. Besides the overall oblong shape there was a ’tail’ on the end which was a bit wider, like a very small fish tail. It was yellowish brown ...
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You mean what’s in it? There’s black walnut, cloves, and wormwood - those are the three main things. There are about 10 more things in the capsules in the program but i don’t have them with me so i can’t say.   [End]
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Sorry to say that i can’t chat while i’m at work and i don’t have internet access at home :( I can only post messages while on break and i try to keep those short. I don’t have anything new to report since the hordes of flukes leaving, i’m rather upset, that couldn’t have been all of them could it? i want to see more! LOL   [End]
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I just looked up Giardia on google and it looks like it’s a protozoa. I’m not sure if anti-parasitic remedies are good at killing other things like protozoa, but i would guess not, i really don’t know though. I had my cat vaccinated against Giardia just two weeks ago so it’s probably handled like a type of infection and not a parasite.   [End]
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Ah, i must have missed that in your subject line lol :) If you’re at 5 weeks and still see that you are passing crawlies then i’d go for longer, it just depends on how infested you are. I’m at 3 weeks and it’s just starting to really pick up and things are dying off in hordes.   [End]
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I found this pic while i was looking for info on flukes, what i have...yuck. This one is very good and looks exactly like what i passed...all 6 gabillion of them. http://www.parasitecleanse.com/GALLERY.HTM   [End]
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Paragone is a product put out by RenewLife, they also have lots of other intestinal ailment curing products. The cheapest place i’ve found it has been www.houseofnutrition.com for $20 a box, you need two boxes if you’re over 150 lbs though. My mother and sister were recently in Malaysia and i’m certain that the things they’ve been having trouble with is something they got over there. Body twitches, constipation, crawling sensations...ugh, after i told my mom what i was doing and what all i’ve passed so far she decided to do the program as well. I wish more people were aware of this, if i h ...
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What program are you using? I think Clarkia is more diluted than Paragone is to start with so that would affect how you would use it. I think we need more info in order to give you some adive. :)   [End]
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I haven’t used Clarkia and don’t know much about the dosage but i’m using Paragone and there aren’t any indications as to how much water you can drink. I don’t think that it matters, just to take the tincture 30 minutes before you eat, i’ve found the best results that way. :)   [End]
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That’s it i think! I check my bm every other day or so and today...OMG there were dozens of those things if not hundreds! I couldn’t even pull the bm apart it was so glued together with tails and tendrils and god knows what. Some are round and fat (1/4 inch) and others are thin and looooong but look mostly the same just different shapes and sizes. From that link it looks like you get them from water plants? what’s a water plant? seaweed? I don’t eat seaweed...hmmm. Along with those, flukes i guess they are, there are tons of teeny worms. So far this is after an initial 15 days on Paragone ...
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I *think* the parasitic agent is only found in the green hulls, i do know that it’s stressed that you only make the tincture with the green immature walnuts.   [End]
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I take the drops with a glass of water and it’s working wonderfully for me. I’ve gone thru 3 boxes of the stuff so far and the tincture sometimes tastes different. The first bottle was VILE and the 8oz of water wasn’t enough to mask the taste. The second and third (i ordered them at the same time) was much lighter in color and had little floaties in it and was much better tasting. Also, i had half a bottle of tincture left over after the first 15 days treatment! Then i wasn’t aware of needing 2 boxes if you were over 150 lbs so now i’m taking 4 caps at a time along with 50 drops of the tin ...
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I think cold kills the active enzymes and whatnot that’s in the lemon juice that’s cleaning your body. I’d say that it’s not a good idea to use it unfortunately :(   [End]
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How often to you work out and for how long? Do you do mostly cardio or weight training or both? I tried the MC and continued to go to the gym daily and i was SOOO incredibly burnt out by day 8 that i had to stop :( I was doing 20 minutes on the treadmill at 3.0 and incline of 5 along with upper or lower body weights, every day i’d switch to upper or lower. Then i tried again a week later and opted to try it with out the gym and i did very well. Lasted the 10 days and didn’t feel spacey at all, when i was exercising i felt about half drunk constantly, driving was even a problem. I’m really ...
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I have lots of mucous all the time, ick, and it’s like that. Mostly it’s brown, but i’m pretty sure it starts off clear and just picks up coloring from it’s suroundings, ick. The mucous clears up after a while though, for me it did. You’ll know plaque when you see it :)   [End]
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Ok, at risk of grossing some readers out...i need to know what the heck this thing is. It was about an 2 inches long,.5 inches wide and about 5mm thick. The shape was an oblong with a bit more width at one end. Besides the overall oblong shape there was a ’tail’ on the end which was a bit wider, like a very small fish tail. It was yellowish brown in color and the texture looked kind of like soft leather? and wrinkly. I’m thinking there’s no way i ate anything that large and looking like that so it had to be a parasite, but what kind? Does anyone have any ideas? There were smaller things w ...
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Bankrupt kidneys lol :) It’s a shame your such a pain to some people or else i could enjoy your humor without feeling guilty about it! LOL   [End]
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I saw weight loss immediately but it depends on how much you have to loose to begin with. After 8 days i lost 10lbs of 220lbs. On day 4 of my second 10 day fast i finally started passing mucoid plaque, it startled me at first and then i realized ”OH! That’s what everyone’s talking about!!!” So hang in there, it takes some individuals longer to see results :)   [End]
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You could maybe take the tincture with you and show them if you think it might show up. They may be able to tell that that was what was causing it and not your arcane addiction to absinthe :) I believe Edgar Allen Poe was a fan of absinthe? i can’t remember   [End]
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Er, 29 days :) If it happened before, perhaps you’ve a weak heart that can’t take prolonged fasting? Just a guess, i really don’t know anything about fasting and what it does to the heart.   [End]
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I don’t want to scare you, but left arm pain and numbness could be signs of heart trouble. At any rate, it’s not a good sign and probably a good idea to stop fasting and perhaps see a doctor is it persists or worsens. Great job on 27 days! :)   [End]
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I had some of those critters too! yuck huh? not very many though thankfully. Don’t eat within an hour of the p/b shakes either! Boy did i make that mistake, i thought my stomach was going to explode, i’m serious. The bentonite got attached to the food and would NOT budge, i drank as much water as i could stand and hoped for the best. It took 30 minutes but i finally started moving...miserable, oh my god. Make sure you get the liquid bentonite too, the powder works but you have to hydrate it and that takes overnight, it’s so much easier to be able to use it whenever you want. One tablespoon ...
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I would say that’s quadrupling the dose, and i don’t think it’s a good idea. A double dose if you’re over 150lbs is ok but i don’t know about more. I have a thread going on how to take a double dose of Paragone and no one seems to know how to do it, but at least no one’s advised me not to.   [End]
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Exactly, that’s what i thought. However, i had a colonoscopy a week before my second fast and on day 4 i passed ropes...the colonoscopy didn’t see any of it. So either the ropes are in the small intestine or hiding very well in the colon, but in my experience it didn’t turn up anything.   [End]
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You could copy and paste it into the message box of a posting form, i don’t know if there’s a text limit to these things though. :)   [End]
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Actually, no, it didn’t help :) I need to take a double dose because i’m over 150lbs and i don’t know whether to do 4 caplets/30 drops 3 times a day or 2 caplets/15drops 6 times a day. I’m about finished with the first 15 days and need to reorder soon for the next 15. If i take too much at one time would i get sick? So should i spread out the double dose into 6 times a day?   [End]
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Since i just found out that those over 150lbs need a double dose of Paragone, do you think it’s 4 caplets and 30 drops 3 times a day or 2 caplets and 15 drops 6 times a day? Or would either do the trick?   [End]
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Oh, and what was the diet he attached to his email? I’m just eating regularly, but was fasting for the first 7 days.   [End]
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Holy crap. The instructions in the box doesn’t say anything at all about if you’re over 150lbs, just if you’re under. No wonder my results haven’t been very good, i’m 210lbs and just using the regular dose. I guess i should use a double dose 3 times a day? Or 6 regular doses a day? hmmmm...   [End]
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Wow, i read your web page and it seems you’ve a heavy infestation of something! I don’t know much about the symptoms of each individual parasite but i think you will certainly benefit from Clarkia. If you want to take care of tapeworms try a mega dose of CQ10, it’s a dietary supplement. Per 150lbs the dose is 3000mg’s taken all at one time. I’m taking Paragone and i didn’t really think i had much of a problem, boy was i wrong. If those things aren’t wormies then they sure have me fooled! All it takes is one time of eating undercooked meat, or anything contaminated by contact of meat and yo ...
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The salt water flush and b/p are two different things, it depends on what you want to accomplish. If you’re not moving your bowels naturally, by digesting food, you really should drink a laxative tea or do a salt water flush. The b/p would get things out of your digestive tract but i personally don’t see it as a laxative type drink. I was experimenting a bit and had a b/p shake and then did the sea salt flush right after...it took 20 hours for it to arrive at the other end! normally, it’s 20 minutes, for me. I was *hoping* that the flush would hydrate the bentonite enough that it would pas ...
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If you’re overweight and don’t want as many calories in your lemonade you can half the syrup to one tablespoon. I assume more lemonade would cleanse faster, but i can’t say for sure.   [End]
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That link really doesn’t go to the book, here’s a link to it though. http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Spa/7244/master_cleanse.html You might have to copy and then paste that into your web browser window.   [End]
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If you haven’t already you should really read the whole Master Cleanse book. You can find it online right at the top of the forum page. It says something like Master Cleanse, it’s a link. It’s not a good idea to start unless you’ve gone over it once or twice. :)   [End]
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I think the maple syrup, or some kind of syrup, is very important, it’s where you get the calories. Many people think of the lemonade diet as not eating, that’s not entirely true. There’s no SOLID food involved but if you have 12 lemonades a day that’s 600 calories, without the syrup you’d just be having whatever was in the lemonade juice and that’s almost nothing, plus there are minerals in the syrup that your body needs. Is cayenne pepper something not used in Asia? I can understand the maple syrup, i ordered mine from a place in california but i don’t know if they ship overseas or not. ...
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I admit, i’ve cheated before but only when the other option was to quit. I’d been going to the gym daily and working out and after a week i felt terrible, i couldn’t think clearly at all and even driving was a problem. So i had some soup and my brain got better. So, if it’s quit or eat a little something, i’d say eat something but be smart about it, don’t chow down a whopper! :)   [End]
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Try it warm, it’s not nearly as bad, plus warm water encourages bowel movements. The first time i tried it warm it took 20 hours to arrive at the other end but i think it was because i had so much bentonite and psyllium in there clogging the works.   [End]
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In the book it says grade A is fine to use, or even molasses but i’ve read on here that people who try molasses aren’t very satisfied. I had to use grade A supermarket syrup for a couple days when i unexpetedly ran out of B. Honestly, i felt horrible, i don’t know what it was but i felt ran down and spacy. After the B arrived i was only able to stay on it for another day because of the mental fog, it felt as if i’d had a few drinks, only all the time. I don’t think any other laxatives are necessary other than the herbal/natural ones talked about in the book. I do the salt water flush ev ...
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Yes, just like Jackie when i passed the largish worms i wouldn’t have known that they even were parasites if i hadn’t been very curious :) Maybe an inch long max. and wrapped in mucous, bleh. The critters themselves were about the same color and consistancy as the mucous but there was a ’spine’ that you could see if you looked hard enough, like in a shrimp. About 4 days into it i passed very thin round pinworm like things but they were much longer than what i hear pinworms are so i’m not sure what they were exactly. Again, if i hadn’t looked i wouldn’t have known, and i’ve felt no squirmin ...
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I really like the sea salt flushes, my last one took forever to pass though. The laxative teas are ok on me for the first 3 days but after that the cramping is SOOO bad i can imagine my intestines telescoping up on themselves and getting tied in knots, so i stop then. I didn’t start getting ropes until i added the B/P’s and only once every other day too! they taste so bad it’s hard to make myself drink them like i should :( My first fast was 8 days and no ropes, this time i passed some on day 4 after only one shake. I had to drink tons of water, it felt like it got ’stuck’ right below my b ...
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I’m pretty sure that you must use sea salt, regular table salt would be absorbed immediately by your body and that’s tooooo much sodium. Plus, it wouldn’t work correctly i’d imagine, if the salt water is to have a ’healing’ action on your system. The same with gargling with salt water, or using salt water to unclog sinuses...only since you’re taking it into your digestive system it can’t be in a form your body will use for other purposes. Sea salt, for some reason i don’t fully understand, isn’t readily absorbed into your bloodstream.   [End]
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The first fast i did was for 8 days and drank the quart of salt water everyday and only had to wait 20-30 minutes before i had to sprint to the bathroom. This time, i didn’t flush until day 4 because of a strange sleeping schedule that demanded i be at work as soon as i woke up. So i drink the water and nothing...for hours... Finally TEN hours later it makes an appearance along with several shortish ropes YAY! Is this typical for when ropes start breaking loose? Does it always take so long for the salt water to make it’s way out? Just so i can plan for next time. Oh, about 4 hours after dr ...
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I tried emailing him but his rocketmail account got sent back to me as undeliverable. I then went to paypal and poked around until i found an address there for him which i wrote to yesterday. Hopefully i’ll hear back soon, but if it’s 2-5 weeks then i’m at the lower end of the waiting period, that’s not so bad.   [End]
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In the book it says it’s used to help break up mucous that’s hanging around possibly being toxic. I read in a woman’s post, livebetterservejesus, i think is her username, that she fasted for 58 or so days and stopped adding the cayenne after week two because there wasn’t anymore mucous to deal with. This is the second time i’ve fasted and stopped the pepper after day 4, it burns my throat after very long and makes it much easier to drink. I’m using the capsules though so sometimes i pop one and don’t have to mess with the taste. Some say that cayenne also ’heats’ up your system, upping you ...
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I just found this post, i know it’s old but what the hey :) I’m not using the program that you are, it sounds like it didn’t work very well though! 4 days on Paragone and i’ve just started to see critters, small pin worm types, yuck. It consists of 2 capsules 3 times daily and 15 drops of tincture per 8oz. of water. Both the caps and tincture have wormwood/clove/black walnut in them, those are the 3 herbal parasite zappers that you need to look for in an herbal remedy. If the stuff you’re taking doesn’t have that in there, you probably would be better off trying Paragone or Clarkia, they’r ...
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Don’t take my word for it, this is just stuff i remember reading. Doctor’s are reluctant to give you tests for that, and don’t even believe they exist. I’ll tell you, *I* have critters, i just looked one in the ’eye’ 5 minutes ago and that’s from 4 days on Paragone. I eat normally, medium well meat, nothing raw certainly and i do have a cat who does not have worms...if i can get them, anyone can and most everyone does. The tests will cost of course and the medication he’ll give you most certainly will. There’s no (almost certain) one medication to get rid of nearly as many parasites that a ...
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Well, i JUST had a bowel movement which is surprising in itself as i’ve not eaten anything for 6 days! And...something, i think pin worms...very many of them. And weird sold crumbly things that looked like peanut butter that’s been dried out...whatever THAT was i’m glad it’s out. I also take a bentonite and psyllium drink once a day in addition to the lemonade fast, hoping that would pull them from knooks and crannies and what not.   [End]
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Same here, or nearly. I’m using Paragone though, not Clarkia but i think they do basically the same thing. I’ve been taking it since friday (5 days) and nothing. I weigh close to what you do, 210lbs, and was thinking i needed a heavier dose too but the instructions don’t mention anything about it. Just that if you’re under 150lbs that you could do a half dose if you wanted - logically that would mean the heavier you are, the more you need but since it didn’t say i thought it would be fine. Also, i’m doing the lemonade fast thing so i wouldn’t think that if you were eating it would ’dif ...
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If i can manage to drink the salt water quickly (10min) then about 30 minutes later it hits and for maybe 2 hours after that, there are minor runs to the bathroom but not any sneaking up during the day. I work an 8 hour shift and never have any problems during the day with it :)   [End]
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I have my Paragone tincture drops here with me at work and comparing the ingredients and dosage for the adult and child formula they look to be the same. It says the pills are tiny and cherry flavored but i can’t check to see if they have the same amounts of herbs or not.   [End]
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Paragone actually comes in doses for children, http://www.healingedge.net/store/more_renew_paragonekids.html you can paste that into your browser window and you can read some about it.   [End]
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I ordered a zapper over 2 weeks ago and haven’t had any word as to when or if it will be shipped. Does anyone have any info on this?   [End]
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Stay away from zapperplans.com! I ordered one ages ago and NO word. $10 doesn’t warrant a lawsuit but geez, i’d like to receive things that i order you know?   [End]
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I’ve decided to do the CQ10 after the initial 15 days, i’m hoping that the paragone weakened them and it’s best to hit them. After 2 days i’ve not had anyone leave the party...how long does it take for them critters to die?   [End]
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I bought the Solary dietary supplement pills, 100k HU and i sprinkle a bit in each glass or pop a whole pill if it’s the first one of the day.   [End]
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You have to copy and paste the link into your browser window but it works :)   [End]
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Whoops, forgot something. The B/P is a type of super fiber drink that pulls things like mucoid plaque off your intestinal wall, it really cleans you out. It’s 1 teaspoon of psyllium, 1 tablespoon of bentonite per one glass of water for as many times a day as you need, most people i think have 3. And you MUST drink tons of water, go for 1.5 times what you normally drink and adjust accordingly after, i find that it really constipates me but it does a great job. I have to order online since i live in a relatively uncultured part of America, my GNC doesn’t have either one! Here are some links ...
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Even if you don’t have any parasites taking Paragon eor Clarkia won’t harm you as long as you take the recommended amount. For your weight, the instructions for Paragone say you only need to take half doses so you can make a full box last for 2 treatments! Lucky you huh? :) It’s recommended you go thru 2 treatments of 15 days each with a 5 day rest period (to give unhatched critters time to hatch, yuck) in between. Also, if you’re fairly certain you have tapeworms i’ve heard that Paragone and Clarkia both have limited success so i suggest you look into buying some CQ10, it’s a dietary supp ...
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Wow that’s alot of CQ10! i don’t know if i can afford quite that much...:( Hopefully 4.5g will put a dent in the colony. That puking up worms doesn’t sound like much fun. The reason for the 5 day break, or so i heard, is so that it gives any remaining eggs time to hatch. And that parasites sometimes have eggs in them that are released when they die so those are floating around for a while still. I’m doing this along with the Ultimate Cleanse so that they HAVE to eat the yummy paragone if they want to eat anything at all...i wonder if they turn on themselves after a while? hmmmm...   [End]
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I just started my Paragone treatment last friday, as of yet i haven’t had any bowel movements so i can’t say if it’s started killing anything though. I’m also doing the Master Cleanse so hopefully that’ll starve the little buggers and make them gorge on the Paragone :) Tomorrow i plan on starting the B/P shakes, those are truly unpleasant, it smells like grass clippings and tastes like dirt! but it’s worth it though, my last cleanse i was only able to convince myself to down one but it was enough to break loose loads of funk. It’s 1 teaspoon of psyillim and 1 tablespoon of bentonite per gl ...
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I plan on doing the MC with Paragone thrown in as well as a hefty dose of CQ10. My question is, when should i take the CQ10? I think after the 15 days of Paragone would work best, is that correct? Thanks :)   [End]
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After 8 days (couldn’t manage 10 :( on the fast i had a colonoscopy. The day before the procedure they had me drink 30oz’s of magnesium citrate and take 2 doses of 2 tablets each of Dulcolax. And let me just say, the salt water flush is a MUCH faster acting inexpensive alternative than that yucky magnesium citrate crap. I was STILL going to the bathroom over 20 hours later! I contemplated not doing the prescribed cleaning out, as i was already empty after over a week of fasting but i did anyway. All that the endoscopy showed was that i had an irritated colon, imagine that. They wanted me t ...
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I’m no expert, but since you can drink the lemonade immediately before or after the b/p drinks...i see no reason why you can’t do it all in one go! I’ll have to try that, my first (and only) shake was horrible, it smelled like dirt and tasted like grass clippings! if i were to imagine what they tasted like anyway LOL   [End]
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The pinworms were VERY tiny but i was persistant :) I haven’t started the Paragone yet, smartbomb’s being slow about shipping again... The complete kit with the arigthone? and orithone? was $75, just the main extract part was $31 but i thought you had to buy the whole syste? i guess i didn’t read the whole directions :)   [End]
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Both Paragone and Clarkia should take care of the pinworms. I remember when i was little and had an affinty for raw bacon (gross, i know) and i contracted pinworms but was so embarrassed i never told anyone. I developed my own system of ridding them (graphic....) when they’d come out to lay eggs i’d run to the bathroom and grab them. I did this for a couple of weeks and it gradually went away. NOW i know that i probably DO still have them even though i haven’t had a nightly visitor for 18 years...I’ve recently been having intestinal problems such as bloody stool and passing loads of mucous ...
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I posted a similar topic a week or so ago and didn’t get any responses as to which is better. So, i ordered Paragone, it seems to be more regulated that Clarkia but as i didn’t get any responses, i wouldn’t know for sure. You can buy Dr. Clark’s products from this website https://www.drclark.com/images/start.htm The complete parasite system from there is $75 which is another reason i went with Paragone as it’s only $25 but it’s recommended you go thru 2 treatments with both programs. I also ordered two bottles of CQ10 for tapeworms along with the Paragone, i went thru Smartbomb.com since ...
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I’m 215lbs and have 4500 mg’s of Q10. Should i take all of that or just 4000 mg’s? Thanks :)   [End]
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I tried Proactive a year or so ago and it was wonderful :) I’d use it constantly if i could afford it. I skipped the toner though, it made my skin tight and shiny and weird looking. I really do like the face cleanser and repairing lotion however. I’m not 100% sure that i DO have rosacea but it’s alot like it, raised red areas on my checks and sometimes nose, with pimples now and then...but it really did help my face to clear up in about 4 days.   [End]
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Dr. Clark’s website says 3000 mg’s for a 150 lb person and 4000mg’s for over that. I’m 215 so do you think 4000 is enough? I bought two bottles for a total of 4500mg’s so should i take all of that just to make sure? Thanks :)   [End]
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I’m leaning towards Paragone since it seems easier to take and not to complicated but the all natural Clarkia has it’s appeal too. Does anyone have experience with both of these? Which would you recommend? Does it take more than one bottle/package for either one to complete treatment? Thanks :)   [End]
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I read this somewhere on the net, that the health benefits of cayenne don’t start until 100,000 HU. That’s what i use, the Solaray 100K capsules. I sprinkle a tad in my lemonade or pop a capsule.   [End]
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I have Dr. Clark’s book but haven’t had time to really sit down with it. I’ve contemplated buying her 3 in one kit from her website but it’s a BIT pricey for me right now. Is there a more economical way to do a gall/liver flush? What i’m really looking for is a recipe of some kind. Thanks so much!   [End]
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I’m pretty sure it works like this. If you don’t drink enough water then your body thinks there isn’t enough water around to drink and so it holds on to water that much more strongly. However, if you’re chugging a 150oz’s a day then it thinks ”Oh! lots of water! I don’t have to worry about having enough readily on hand, i’ll just get rid of this that i’m not using right now.” So you don’t retain as much :)   [End]
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Well, i don’t know if this is ’legal’ or not but whenever i felt hungry, which wasn’t very often, i’d sneak some more maple syrup :)maple half a tablespoon straight out of the bottle.   [End]
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I caved after 7 days :( but hope to go for longer next time! The last day i tried a bentonite and psyllium drink *ick* and i think it got...lost. I drank it at 6pm along with another glass of water, went to bed at 10pm and when i woke up i could FEEL it lodged somewhere right below my stomach. I drank lots of water thoughout the day expecting to pass it sometime and it never did. I gave up on it. Then the next day i was having some soup with rice and noticed that IT came out alright. So what happened to the b/p stuff? I’m slightly freaked out that it might be lodged somewhere...any ideas?   [End]
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I’ve got the BP stuff on order and it’s on it’s way to me but as of now i’ve not had any rope success. The salt water flushes are getting out very little material, it’s mostly all neon yellow watery stuff so i’m thinking i’m almost cleaned out. The senna tea is giving me VICIOUS cramps and was thinking about stopping it when i can start the BP shakes, is that a good idea? I’m 23 and thinking that maybe i don’t have much mucoid plague built up yet and may never pass any. Does it usually depend on how old you are as to how much plague you have built up? Thanks!   [End]
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I’ve not had a BM on my own since starting (Day 6) unless it was with the help of a salt water flush or senna tea. In the morning have a quart of water with 2 tsp. of sea salt and you’ll definitely have a BM or two! same for the senna tea, just have it at night and in the morning you’ll go. For me it’s about 8.5 hours after i have the tea.   [End]
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I forgot to add, when i went to the gym last night i was able to walk for twice as long as i normally do and at a higher incline. And i was lifting more weight for more reps as well. So for now, i have tons more energy than i did a few days ago. I’m also starting to wonder if i don’t have a food allergy because my skin has TOTALLY cleared up. My hair doesn’t get so funky and greasy looking as quickly either.   [End]
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I’m working on day 4 and so far things at work have been fine. I’m a claims processor and so need constant attention for errors and motor skills for typing and i’ve not noticed a slow down. I haven’t drank as much today as i should (2 lemonades and only one glass of water) so i’m feeling a bit run down but i’m sure it’s my own fault! :) It’s hard to keep constantly drinking when i’m up and about for meetings *sigh* but i’ll do better tomorrow.   [End]
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When i squeeze my lemons some plup ends up in with the juice and i’ve just been leaving it in. But i’ve noticed it...floating in the bowl. I didn’t know that the pulp was undigestiable, will it affect the cleanse? Thanks :)   [End]
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I did so good over the weekend at home where i’d banished all food from sight :) but here at work i smell all kinds of fast food and it makes me feel a mix of ”OH i want that!” and ”Yuck, i’d puke if i ate that.” So i drink my lemonade and hope the puke feeling wins in the end. I’m doing the saltwater flush in the mornings and senna tea before bed and as soon as the bentonite and psyllium arrives i’ll be doing that too :) How many times a day should i do the B/P along with the laxative tea and saltwater flush? I hope to loose some weight (anyone ever lost 70lbs on this cleanse? *snicker*) ...
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As soon as the book, sea salt, senna tea and maple syrup arrives i plan on starting :) My question is, the only type of 100,000 HU pepper i could find was in capsule form. I read that the health benefits of cayenne pepper doesn’t start until 100,000 HU’s, whether it’s true or not i don’t know but it makes sense that the hotter it is the better right? So can i use the capsulated pepper in the tea? I assume it’s not whole pepper but ground up.   [End]
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