I think he does it on purpose. Silver Fox!   [End]
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Have you read on his site of anyone curing a problem drinking his swill? I tried it and it was worse than bad. Silver Fox!   [End]
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No, but save your money, multi vitamins are a waste. IMOP. Silver Fox!   [End]
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Of course the health know-it-all claims they are bad for you and you could die. Has anyone ever heard or read of someone dying due to a liver flush? Not me. He claims flushing makes no sense. I wish I would have saved what came out of my liver. But he wouldn’t have believed it anyway. Smile its your choice. Silver Fox!   [End]
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Amen Sister.. Silver Fox!   [End]
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No I don’t smoke, but I burried both of my parents who died from lung cancer. Next to taking drugs, smoking is the worst thing you can do to your health. Enjoy your shorten life and say goodby to wellness. Silver Fox!   [End]
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Stress plays a big part on our overall health. You lost your job. Very stressful. Stress brings down the immune system. Try if possible to find quite time. Rest and destress. You will find other work and be the better for it. Silver Fox!   [End]
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50% of all toxins are removed via the skin. Yes its good to have a clean colon, but sweating toxins via exercise and a sauna, will works wonders. Silver Fox!   [End]
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Mix in a little exercise and it will help you. Silver Fox!   [End]
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Good idea to do both. I’m having mine done July 2nd. Silver Fox!   [End]
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Are your feet growing? Now bigger boobs I understand :o) Silver Fox!   [End]
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You talked me into it ( What a sucker ). I ordered a 10 pack online. 5 for me and 5 for my wife. What’s that saying about a fool and his money...... Silver Fox!   [End]
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Molly, I would question that your new found Wrap Program is really cleaning/draining your lymph system. You can’t ever drain the lymph system. If that were the case you would be dead and we don’t want that, right? Cleaning the lymph system is what keeps one healthy. The lymph system is the sewer system of the body. The only way the lymph system works is by moving. Unlike the blood that has the heart to keep things movings, the lymph system needs help and only works when we move. So when you sleep, your lymph is not working. The best way to clean your lymph system is exercise. Any kin ...
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Your right, nothing can replace raw living fruits and veggies. Anything else should be used as a supplement to raw living food. Silver Fox!   [End]
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I have heard this horor story before and that’s way I wouldn’t trust this guy as far as I could throw him. Silver Fox!   [End]
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If you don’t do anything else but OP, no, you will not you will not fix your problems. OP like anyother health program must be combind with a complete health program of diet, exercise and some form of stress relief. Makes sense, no? Silver Fox!   [End]
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First off, do you know you have heavy metals in you system? Have you been tested? What kind and to what levels? Best to know what your dealing with before you try anything. Have blood work done and see where your at. Candida is a whole nother ball game. That is diet related. Silver Fox!   [End]
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What you describe is LGS ( Leaky Gut ). What do you know about it and what causes it. A poor diet for many years. Before you try any program, read up on your problem and then you will know how to treat and restore your health. A good book to read is Recapture Your Health. http://www.sunrisehealthcoach.com. Silver Fox!   [End]
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I use mine first thing in the morning, but yes I sleep like a baby. Here’s my thoughts on why I feel the sauna helps. After using my sauna for several months, I noticed a very strong odor when I started sweating. Really bad odor. That lasted for another two months, then no odor and none since. I reread the benefits of using a sauna and it mention removing uric acid from the body. Most is stored in the muscles. So, I no longer have and aches or pains in my joints or muscles, hence I sleep better. Also you get stress relief when using a sauna and that helps too. It is truly a great hea ...
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Just to add, so much of KT info that he charges for is free on the internet, Curezone or other sites. Silver Fox!   [End]
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For those who have yet to take the plunge and spend your hard earned dollars for a sauna, here are some things to consider. I researched saunas for about a year before I bought one. I also tried several before parting with my money. Make darn sure your going to use it, because they cost too much money. If you have any medical problems that would prevent you from using a sauna, don’t get one. I bought a two person sauna from High Tech Health 4 years ago. I use it every day I am in town. I love it. It is one of the best things I have ever done for my overall health. A great detox aid a ...
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Michael, Yes it takes time for your body to learn how to sweat. Keep using your sauna each day and within two months you will be fine. Try exercising first, that should help. However after several years ( 4 for me )your body leearns how to handle heat and it takes longer to start sweating. About 15 to 17 minutes for me. You will find that you can handle both cold and hot weather better than before. Enjoy, Silver Fox!   [End]
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Trap, You have to realize that you can never win ( not that you want too ) with ML. He’s a ” My way or the highway ” person. There is only one right way and that’s his way. What bother’s me the most, is his request for proof, when he has none to offer for himself. He is not worth the effort. Save your time to help others with your knowledge. Silver Fox!   [End]
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Its not for us to answer. What do you feel the best doing??? Silver Fox!   [End]
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Beth, I was alkalizing and detoxing my body 15 years ago. I started doing idoine 2 months ago. I see no improvement in my health because I am already in great health. It will take a year at least or I my never see any improvement. How can I preach the benefits when I haven’t seen the results. I can preach a whole food diet, some exercise, detoxing the colon, liver and other organs. And last but not least, some form of stress relief. I juice green veggies, rebound, and sauna every day I can. I have done flushes and colonics. I do skilled relaxcation every day. Idoine supplamentation i ...
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It all gets down to M-O-N-E-Y. There is no proft to be made in selling seaweed, but there are billions to be made in selling cancer drugs. BTY, people who live on Okanawa don’t have a word for cancer. What else can I help you with??? Silver Fox!   [End]
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It depends on what your working on. I have been Op’ing for 4 months and other than a cleaner mouth and removal of phlem, I have not noticed any improvement in my health. However I am in good health with no noticiable problems. Silver Fox!   [End]
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Thanks, Hanna. I thought for a minute I was losing my mind. Silver Fox!   [End]
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I am finding the Banned Club has a lot of members. Silver Fox!   [End]
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But its soooo hard to ingor the fool. I seem to enjoy watching him make a fool out of himself. I’ll really try to control myself. AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH! Silver Fox!   [End]
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I ran this by Walt Stoll on his board. Walt has been treating people for 30 years. Former MD. His comment was ” Of course they are different. ” I think Moreless is the only person on the planet to think they are the same. Silver Fox!   [End]
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If a program doesn’t help it soon dies out. Silver Fox!   [End]
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So Moreless claims. Their all full of BS. Silver Fox!   [End]
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Tyler, Its all about power for him. He can’t admit he’s wrong as it will show weakness on his part and result in a loss of power. Silver Fox! P.S. Does that ” She’s ” name start with a I?   [End]
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If people aren’t posting, he ( Moreless ) goes into a tirate about how people are talking about him on other forums and they will pay when they get sick for not listening to him. I am begining to think he has some real mental problems. My last post before I was banned I asked him for proof of his Red cell, White cell, same theory. He didn’t have any and said that when I got a disease I couldn’t solve I would have my proof. Gee, that makes a lot of sense. So if you value your health, you dare not say anything bad about the self proclaimed King of the PH. He has a little Vulcane doll a ...
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From Walts board? Silver Fox!   [End]
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So lets ban him from the Oil Puling Form. You can throw Moreless out Too. Silver Fox!   [End]
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Moondance, Now you know what Superfood is, let me give you my cut on this and other green products. I find them all less efective than juicing green raw veggies. With raw juice you are getting more live enzyems than freeze dried products have. I notice a big difference juicing veggies. Make sure to throw in 1/2 of a lemon for taste. Its called green lemonade. Silver Fox!   [End]
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Where is your proof? Studies, data to support your theory. How do we know your not lying? Silver Fox!   [End]
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Darnit, I thought I was the first one. Silver Fox!   [End]
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He does have quite an ego, doesn’t he? Silver Fox!   [End]
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What’s an issue anyway? I never understand ” issue ”. If you mean do I still need to do some detoxing? Yeah, I’m sure I do. I have done a complete 12 week detox with herbs, while on a raw diet of fruit and veggies. I have continued taking herbs for a full year to detox and rebuild glands and other organs. I have done liver flushes for a year, until there were no more stones being removed. I have fasted twice. Once for 6 days and once for 3 days. But even with all that I probably need some more work. I will have full blood work done this spring and decide what next to work on. What are y ...
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I have been banned by the self proclaimed KING of PH blancing, because I dare disagree and ask him to prove his claims. Everything I have ever read over the last 30 years has taught me that Red and White Blood Cells are different. So after Moreless tells me I am full of BS and doctors and a biochemist with 30 years of treating people are also full of BS. If I am wrong, will someone point me in the right direction, please! Also if anyone has or is using his drink and having sucess can you respond? I found the dring to be the most horiable tasting stuff in the world. Don’t get me wr ...
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If the ” Drink ” is making you sick, then be all means stop taking it. I tried it and got the same results, so I went back to green veggie juice. There are other ways you can alkalize your body. Juicing green veggies is one. I know this post won’t be met with favor and will be deleted, but facts are facts and one size does not fit all. Silver Fox!   [End]
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I aready explained this once to you, but you must have forgot. Too bad. Maybe you just choose to ignor, because you are too closed minded. Silver Fox!   [End]
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Thanks, but I’m already there and it feels great. Silver Fox!   [End]
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Please answer one question before you drop the hammer. Were you born a JERK or did you become one when you got older? Silver Fox!   [End]
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I never said white blood cells nutralize acid. I said T cells and B cells kill bacteria and other live invaders. The toxic waste and other toxins ( plactic and many more ) are removed via the lymph system. To protect the body the lymph system will use lymph nodes to store toxins until they can be safely removed. Don’t put words in my mouth. We all know white cells don’t nutralize acid. Try again. Silver Fox!   [End]
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Moreless, I can not give what your looking for, but I think Dr. Robert Morse could. Try his web site. He is a biochemist with 30 years of experience treating sick people with herbs and teaching them to alkalize their body’s. The reason I can’t give you what your looking for is I have neither the time or interest to get the information. If this task is so simple, then you get it. Maybe your afraid of what his answer is. Tell me you can post the question on his message board. If I did it you probably wouldn’t believe me. You seem to having a fit over your ideas that you can’t prove. ...
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Like you I tried OP and Have been doing it for 4 months. Other than a cleaner mouth and whittier teeth I see/feel no health improvement. I’m assuming you are in good health like I am. With all you posted that you do, you should be in good health. If you don’t have any health problems, then it gets harder to see any improvements when you try a new program. I find that I have to try a new program for a year and even then there maybe no change. There could be hidden health bennies that you can’t see/feel. Give it more time. Silver Fox!   [End]
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They are a waste of money IMOP. Silver Fox!   [End]
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There is nothing wrong with disagreeing. There are several roads leading to wellness. No one has all the answers. Neither Moreless nor I. The problem I find is many so called experts believe their health program is the only one and if you dare question them you are dog meat. My experience has been to read, question and learn what works for me. If someone else wants to do a different program, so be it. Silver Fox!   [End]
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My feathers don’t get ruffled. Seem to me YOU were the one telling me I was full of BS and my beliefs are false. Again, unlighten me with your proof and not just your opinion. Silver Fox!   [End]
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I doubt you are open to any change. You issue a chalange, but you don’t offer proof of any other way. Are you saying, ” If I don’t agree with you then I am full of BS?” For your enlightenment, there several ways to wellness. I think we are in agreement that an alkaline system is the answer. Well guess what your program is not the only way to get there. The reason I know is I have alkalized and detoxed my body without your detox drink. At 64 I will put my PH, BP and heart rate up against anyone. How is that possible? You have complained how some attack you, well maybe if you weren’t ...
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B Cells respond to infection by creating antibodies--the small molecules that ram themselves into the side of bacteria and virus-infected cells.Once their protective shields are broken, these cells burst like swollen balloons. Small protein bullets called immunoglobulins work under the direction of white blood cells to hook up to infected cells and kill them. Page 275, The Owner’s Manual. You got a better explaination with facts to support. Were not talking about neutralizing any acids. I’m talking about killing bacteria. Once they are dead then the body must neutralize to safely remove ...
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Did you read my post? Immune ( White Blood Cells ) are created to attack anything harming the body. They do not carry nutrients, they act as the police force of the lymph system. They die right after attacking, less they start attacking the body. Yes, stress is acidic to the body. So is anger, hate and other negative emotions. Sadness is also acidic. So laugh and enjoy life. Silver Fox!   [End]
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Most don’t want to understand because the answer is too easy. For others they are too lazy to search for answers to their health problems. Its easy to take a wonder pill and let someone else do the work. Silver Fox!   [End]
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Your words are so true. Silver Fox!   [End]
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Alkalizing the body is one of the keys, but not the only one. There are three legs to the health stool. One is diet ( Alkalizing the body to heal and detox ). Two is exercising ( To keep the lymph system moving and clean ). Three is some form of stress relief ( SR, Centerpoint, CHI ). Its taken me a long time to find and put all the keys into practice, but the payoff/reward is good health, being drug free and pain free. Silver Fox!   [End]
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I first read about alkalizing the body back in 1988 when I read books by Norman Walker. This guy was ahead of his time. He wrote that all disease starts in the gut/colon. Keep that clean and alkalized and you will be healthy. I started doing enemas and colonics then. I had my first taste of raw veggie juice. So when I read about some new health discovery or product I am not quick to jump on the band wagon. We have more toxins to deal with today and I do more to keep my body detoxed, but achiving wellness hasn’t changed. BTY, Dr Walker lived to be 107. Died quitely in his sleep, di ...
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When you have a upset stomach, do what the animal kingdom does, they STOP eating anything. They fast until their gut has healed. A enema will help, but rest and no eating. Silver Fox!   [End]
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You probably have reached the point where you are wasting your breath. If he wants to drink the process junk, then let him have at it. Some will never listen, because they don’t want too. Silver Fox!   [End]
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Saunas help to remave toxins that exercise ( sweating ) doesn’t get. When you exercise you build up acid that is stored in the muscles. A sauna will remove these toxins. IMOP the sauna is one of best detoxers you can use/own. Silver Fox!   [End]
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Wow I sure had to do a lot of searching, with all the extra questions about Red and White Blood Cells. Here is what I found and my sources of information: The Detox Miracle Sourcebook, by Dr. Robert Morse, N.D. He is a biochemist, iridologist and master herbalist. His web site is http://www.godsherbs.com. He teaches and acidic body is the cause of all disease and detoxing with herbs and alkalizing the body is the path to wellness. My second source is The Owner’s Manual, by Dr,’s Michael F. Roizen and Mehmet C. Oz. Cells are made up a Nucleus where the genetic information is c ...
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I have never been depressed so I don’t know what you all go through, but from what I have seen, many can not come out of it like you did. I agree with you that taking meds is not the answer. I have seen first hand they don’t fix the problem, only cover it over. Good for you for taking control. Silver Fox!   [End]
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I will have to do some research. My assignment for this evening. Now if I can only remember where I read it. Silver Fox!   [End]
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Yes, I think its better to juice them and here’s why. One pound of carrots make 4 oz of carrot juice. You can drink 4 oz of juice with no problems. However eating a whole pound of carrots is very hard and to do it every day is impossible. You get 90% of the nutrients and enzymes with juice. Raw veggie juice is absorbed within 20 minutes after drinking. Eating greens is good and I do that too for fiber. I have tried the green drinks and have not found them to helpful like raw fresh juice. Now give me fresh raw wheat grass juice and I love it. The freezed dried stuff you can keep. B ...
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What are you basing this theory on? Everything I have read ( Dr. Sherry Rogers, Dr. Stephen Sinatra, Dr. Robert Morse, Dr. Sandra Cabot ) say that the body makes Red and White Blood Cells. Not that Red cells turn into White Cells. Over the years I have learned to question ideas until I see the proof. Then it has to make sense. Just trying to get to the truth. Silver Fox!   [End]
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You have to find what works for you. I juice daily greens ( Kale, Spinach, cabbage, carrots, apple and 1/2 lemon ). 16 to 20 oz’s. I prefer it to the alkalizing drink. Taste and live enzymes are my main two reasons. I also recive nutrients that I don’t have to take in the form of supplements. My body thrives on raw fresh juice. But were all a little different. But we all need to alkalize our body’s. Silver Fox!   [End]
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It is also my understanding that Red Blood Cells carry nurtients to all body parts. They return with wastes that are filtered through the liver. White Blood Cells don’t do this. They are the police force that fight infection and disease. They don’t reproduce like their Red brothers. If they did they would turn and attack the body. After White Cells have done their job, they die off and are removed via the lymph system. Silver Fox!   [End]
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Some children never grow up. There’s a lot of BIG kids walking around. Silver Fox! P.S. Maybe they need a time out?   [End]
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Why not get 15 minutes of sunshine?? Silver Fox!   [End]
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Yes, he was real into eating fruits and veggies, but his book has a link to the Warrior Diet. I too wouldn’t touch with a 10 foot pole. I did like his book. Silver Fox!   [End]
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Your dating yourself. 1957 if I remember. Silver Fox!   [End]
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Redrooster, Harvey Diamond suggest the Warrior Diet. At least in his book anyway. He was involved in writing the Fit for Life books. Which is more about food combining. I personally do best on fruits and veggies. I like to eat my fruit and juice my veggies. Silver Fox!   [End]
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One of the best books that I have read explaining how cancer starts and grows is, The Fit For Life Solution, by Harvey Diamond. Cancer is a result of cells being so over loaded with toxins, they go crazy and turn destructive. This is from years of a diet of cooked and processed foods. When the body PH is acidic, cancer can start and grow. It is slow but unrelenting. It takes a year for 1 cancer cell to grow into 12. It takes 10 to 12 years for cancer to reach the size of a pea, where it can be detected. We all walk around with cancer cells in our body. Our immune/lymph system kills a ...
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I have ordered and will start the alkalizing drink. I’m not sure what it will do for me, only because I feel so good now. My PH ( mouth ) is 7. I don’t know I could feel any better. BUT old dogs can learn new tricks. So note: If I get sick and die, I will never speak to you again :o) I will keep a record and report. Silver Fox!   [End]
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We are taught from childhood to cover up pain with a pill. Presto pain all gone. No one ever taught me that pain was my body’s way of talking to me. It only took me 50 years to learn. You must forgive us Moreless, some of us are slow learners. Silver Fox!   [End]
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The body can and does store mucus. In pockets. Mine were in my back. I full body detox for a year did the trick. I started to see/feel improvement in 3 months. Seems like I can breathe for the first time in my life. Silver Fox!   [End]
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Also Oil Pulling may help the mucus problem. It works for me. There is a site on Curzone for Oil Pulling. Silver Fox!   [End]
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Soooo I shouldn’t try it? LOLOLOL Silver Fox!   [End]
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If ” YOU ” think this is a pointless web site, then ” YOU ” have missed the ” POINT ” and I feel sorry for you. Moreless does the caps. I was just having a little fun with it. I can’t speak for others, but I am hardly ” Holier than thou. ” I have been presuing wellness for 35 years and I have made many mistakes along the way. But I contuine to learn. I have found what works for me. I try and share it with others when I can and when they will listen. I have and never will ask for money or praise. I try to get others not just to listen to me, but learn for themself’s. That way they can ma ...
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Do ” YOU ” really want help? Or do ” YOU ” just want to tell me your problems? Stops them right in their tracks. Silver Fox!   [End]
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Look at Ask Moreless fourm for remineralizing. Also juicing green veggies. Silver Fox!   [End]
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The hygieiest probably was saying, ” Wow, this was easy money.” Good for you. Silver Fox!   [End]
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All disease starts in the colon. I read these words 25 years ago in a book by Norman Walker. Nothing has really changed. We must clean and heal the gut first. There are so many products and programs on the market, that we lose site of where we need to start. Silver Fox!   [End]
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It would be a waste of time. If you get sold ” Snake Oil ” you believe it will work. Only time will tell. Silver Fox!   [End]
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Wow, you beat me by 75 seconds mama. Silver Fox!   [End]
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I agree with what’s already been posted. I too live in New England and well know how dry it can get. If you heat with forced hot air, its gets even dryer. We use a humidifier in the winter. It helps. Silver Fox!   [End]
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Doesn’t make any sense does it? Wellness should always make sense. Silver Fox!   [End]
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Your a first for me. glad your doing well. Silver Fox!   [End]
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Since you posted this on this site, I will respond. Urine Therapy is the stupidest program I have ever heard of. It makes no sense at all. Drinking your own waste products, that your body has worked so hard to get rid of is insane. Putting acid back into your body is also insane. The key word here is THERAPY. There are no facts to back up this program. I have never read or talked to anyone who improved their health drinking their own urine. However there are many who have seen health improvements doing Oil Pulling and other detox programs. Be sure to let us all know if you impr ...
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” You recived free, give free ”???? I don’t have a problem paying for something that will improve my health, but the ” Snake Oil ” claims of this product cures all ills turns my stomach. Knowledge is the key. When we understand why and how we get sick, we are able to make informed decissions regarding our health. Saddly some look for the easy way out. Silver Fox!   [End]
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I tend to agree with moreless. What are you trying to sell? Whenever the word ” MIRACLE ” is used regarding a product I look at it with raised eye brows. Only live food is a miracle. Fulvic Acid is a supplement, nothing more, nothing less. Silver Fox!   [End]
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Sad to say, but some never grow up. Call it a lack of respect or poor manners, but they find a sick delight in causing trouble. Most of us are here to learn. Silver Fox!   [End]
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It still falls on you and me to ignor such attacks. I can tell in the first sentence, if I want to continue to read the post. Just click off and don’t respond. There is nothing to be gained. Silver Fox!   [End]
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Best thing to do is just ignor the post. We all have the right to express an opinion, but none should attack. Those who just want to start trouble will leave if ignored. Silver Fox!   [End]
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I’m not sure what you mean by BRIX readings, but I got the mixture from The Raw Food Detox Diet, by Natalia Rose. Personally I do best on raw fruits and veggies. The less animal proucts I comsume the better I feel. I’m not opposed to trying your drink, but I feel so darn good now, I wonder if I will see an improvement. Ha! Every time I say that I prove myself wrong. Silver Fox!   [End]
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This is how I sort out all the information. 1) Does it make sense? If I drink my own urine will this improve my health? Not in my life time. 2) Is there back up data to support the claim? 3) Do others in the health field agree with the claim? 4) Are they making claims that this wonder pill cures all ills? 5) Do they want me to help sell their product? When I do decide to try something, I give it at least 3 months or even longer, before I rule it out or in. Also, every thing starts with a good diet. Exercise, detoxing, juicing, supplements and some form of stress relief fo ...
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The following drink that I make everyday to the Moreless Alkalizing Drink.. Juice the folling veggies: Kale, celery, rommaine lettuce, cucumber, carrot, 1/2 raw lemon ( with skin ) and 1 apple. Its called Green Lemonade. I like the live enzymes it contains. Your thoughts please. Silver Fox!   [End]
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Keep in mind that this is a public forum and we are all free to respond, comment or ignor any post. I for one enjoy reading any post that can help me improve my health. So what do you suggest? We have the Forum Police haul away anyone who dares post information not relating to PH? Silver Fox!   [End]
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Cows milk is for baby cows. It is intended to take a calf and turn it into a 350 pound cow in one year. Humans are the only animal that contuines to drink milk after weaning. Are the animals trying to tell us something? Silver Fox!   [End]
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Stands to reason, that its better to get your vitamins and minerals in a natural state than man made. You make a good point regarding the acid effect of synthetic vitamins. Two things add to the problem. First is a persons level of absorbsion. If it is not good then vitamins are quickly passed through and do little or no good. Second, most people take way too many supplements. The old saying, ” If one is good, then two must be better,” does more harm, than good. Now the liver is over loaded trying to process all the unnatural junk. We need supplements, but in the right form and just eno ...
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Everybody already thinks I’m crazy and now you want me to advertise it? Silver Fox!   [End]
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Death...And I will fight him to the very end. You start by making yourself hard to kill. An alkizing whole food diet with daily veggie juicing. Exercise, detoxing and stress relief. Silver Fox!   [End]
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Good for what? To supplement your diet? Make sure your diet is a good one first Juicing is a better why to get nutrients than taking supplements. Silver Fox!   [End]
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Just cut back a little. Try once a day until you body has a chance to adjust. We all tend to rush health programs, but your body has its own time clock. Don’t be in a hurry. Silver Fox!   [End]
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The ” Good Book ” also says: ” Wisdom is for a protection the same as money is for a protection; but the advantage of knowledge is that wisdom itself preserves alive its owners.” Eccl. 7:12 We can take in knowledge, but to become wise, we must apply it. How many people say, ” I know I should eat better and get some exercise, but I just can’t find the time.” Silver Fox!   [End]
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Hey Invincible, are you on all the sites? Good for you. Silver Fox!   [End]
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You may also want to have a lymph massage, but becareful, because if your loaded with toxins, you can get real sick. Saunas are very good for cleaning the lymph system. I have and use a infared sauna. They are great. Silver Fox!   [End]
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Three times a week is not enough. Twice a day if your just getting started. If your in poor health, it may take 6 months to a year to see improvement. If your in good health, you still need once a day to stay stress free. Silver Fox!   [End]
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I’m sorry I can’t offer you a DVD to get, because I started SR in a very strange way. I purchased a CHI machine about 3 years ago. Moves your lower body back and forth. Supposed to help you detox. I have used it since I got it and I noticed that when it shut off after 15 minutes I experienced a ” Buzz ” or tingle feeling up and down my legs. This feeling would last for 2 or 3 minutes. I found out this was the Alpha State, so all I had to do was expand on it. 5 minutes, then 10, 20 and so on. Now I don’t need any machine or tapes to jump into the zone. I can pop in at will as long as I am n ...
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SR ( Skilled Relaxation ) Means any relaxation technique or practice that induces a deep state of relaxation of both the body and mind ( characterized by an Alpha or Theta brainwave ). Examples are Centerpoint, autogenics, biofeedback, breathing techniques, t’ai chi, or yoga. Just to name a few. Any technique that induces a relaxed state can be used. Twice a day for 20 minutes. Now you don’t fall asleep, but you are tolaly relaxed. There are lots of books on SR, but Recapture Your Health is one that covers it very nicely. I can find the Zone while driving a car, flying in a plane and si ...
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You may have more stress than you think. I speak from experience. I have always thought of myself as a calm guy and others that know me will sometimes comment on how I am able to stay so calm. So I was the last person to think I was stressed. Things we take for granted, that we don’t think will give us stress, like getting stuck in trafic, family members getting sick, making the mortgage payment. And the list goes on and on. I can tell you that since I have been doing SR I have reached a whole new level of calmness. What a boost to the immune system and overall health. I have been ab ...
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You are bracing and in need of stress relief. There is a good book that will help you understand what causes your problem ( which is quite normal ) and what you can do. The book is Recapture Your Health. You can get it at http://www.sunrisehealthcoach.com. I have posted on this site before, but stress relief is as important as eating right and exercising is. Silver Fox! P.S. It takes a little time to master it, but worth the effort.   [End]
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What are you looking to achive? The body runs on electricy. Your brain tells all the cells what to do via electric current. If your looking to balance your body ( CHI ) then look into some form of stress relief. Putting your self in the Alpha zone twice will keep you in balance. Calm you down and inprove your over all wellness. Silver Fox!   [End]
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Sounds like you need to eat more. When switching your diet to raw foods you don’t have to count calories. Eat until you are full. If you are hungry again in 2 hours, eat again. I snack a lot. Just make it raw snacks. Silver Fox!   [End]
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I have read enough to convince me that our bodies do run via electricy. We use only 10% of our brain to think with, what then is the other 90% doing? Eating Bon-bons? Nope! The othe 90% of our brains is telling everyone of our 74 to 110 trillion cells what to do. We don’t think to breathe or blink our eyes, the brain does this for us. You can call it CHI or anything you want, but electrical current is in us all the time. If you do Skilled Relaxcation like I do and put your self in the Alpha state twice a day, you would feel the waves of electricy moving up and down your body. BTW, ...
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It is my understanding that the blood PH is 7.45 and must remain constant of you will die. I seem to feel the best when my PH is 7 or above. Silver Fox!   [End]
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Balance is the key to wellness. Its easy to overdue any health program. You don’t need that much Ozonated water. Thanks for sharing your experience, because I tend to overdue as well and have to keep reminding myself to take it easy. If one is good for you, then two must be better, no? NO! Silver Fox!   [End]
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Do you mean it time to cut the cord and go out in the cold cruel world by ourself? Yikes! What if some doctor or con artist tries to sell us some Snake Oil? A Wonder Pill that cures all disease. What are we too do??? Were being thrown to the wolf’s. :o) Silver Fox!   [End]
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Hi Paul, Yeah, sometimes Walt’s board get too far away from health posts. What is the Moreless Concoction?? Silver Fox!   [End]
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Trapper, Did you ever think, maybe that’s the way you really are?? Just kidding. I have gotten the same feeling trying Skilled Relaxcation for the first time. Also when I started using my sauna. Its not uncommon to feel the high. Silver Fox!   [End]
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Maybe this should be on another thread, but Invinceable and others have posted below that they use the infared-sauna. So do I and I would like to share my results. I purchased mine 3 years ago and have used it everyday I am not traveling. Next to changing my diet to a whole foods and juicing it is the single best thing I have done to improve my health. It took my body 2 weeks to learn how to sweat and another 2 months to clean out all the stored toxins. How do I know I removed toxins? The odor for those 2 months was not to be believed. I could hardly stand myself. My poor wife had to ...
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Moreless, The reason people have health problems and don’t know WHY or HOW to slove their problems, is because they are lazy. Yep, most of us are lazy. If we have a problem with our health, the easy way out is just ask someone for help. Forget doing any research, just go to the doctor or ask a friend, family member, ” What should I do?” ” Here take this pill.” Or even ask Moreless. ” Balance your PH.” Ok and off they go, doing what they were told to do, without knowing why. Why not, doctors are never wrong, right? I find it hard to understand why they would let someone else make c ...
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I know how you feel. Its hard to explain to people why you feel so good and why your so upbeat all the time. When you tell them its all a result of your diet change, they look at you like you have two heads and they want to cut both of them off. Silver Fox!   [End]
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Cooked grains are your problem. Order Grain Damage, by Dr. Douglas N. Graham. It will open your eyes to the harm humans inflect on themselfs’ from eating grain foods. Trapper is right, when he says how much better he feels. It is hard to describe how good you can feel when you reat correctly. Silver Fox!   [End]
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I would suggest you get a read a few books on detoxing first. Recapture Your Health, by Dr. Walt Stoll and Jan DeCourtney and Detoxify or Die, by Dr. Sherry Rogers. Both will tell you, that a diet change is the first step to wellness. The first and most important thing with any wellness program is your diet. If you start by slowly moving to a raw whole foods diet, your body will start detoxing. No need to jump into some detox program. Don’t be in a hurry. Your not in a race. Your body has its own time clock. Let it do what it was created to do, heal and cleanse its self. It took you ...
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I’m not. Just read what it says and see if there is any other back up. I posted my back up. Understanding the Bible is not hard. Just apply common sense and it is easy. Silver Fox!   [End]
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Good for you, but just having knowledge is not the only thing required. You must apply knowledge to become wise. Your thinking doesn’t make any sense. Why did God crate us with a digestive system if we were never going to use it? Why do we have teeth to chew? Other animals eat, why not us? How come no other Bible writer mentions this? Here’s the problem with new ideas, they first have to make sense. Yours doesn’t. Second you need proof. Not just ” I think ”. Show me one person who can live or has ever lived on just breathing. But you can live very nicely on just fruit. Healthy too. Why ...
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Trapper, This is not the form for talking about the Bible, but I have been a Bible student for 30 plus years and have never read where the first sin was eating. The first sin was disobaying God and thinking he ( God ) was not needed for life. The command in Genesis 3:2 & 3 reads, ” At this the woman said to the serpent: ” Of the fruit of the trees of the garden we may eat. But as for the eating of the fruit of the tree in the middle of the garden, God has said, ’ You must not eat from it, no you must not touch it that you do not die.’” So man was created as a Fruitain and he needed to e ...
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My first response was your taking in too much oil. Using oil as a supplement is good but too much of anything can be bad as your body only needs so much. I would back off on the oil for a few days and see if your problem doesn’t improve. If you have lots of mucus and oil pulling is causing it to move, then keep pulling, but stop all dairy and grain products for the time being. Silver Fox!   [End]
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Griz, Yeah, I had lot of stored ” Big Mac’s ” in my liver. I am so glad I don’t eat like that anymore. It took me a year with flushes and coffee enemas to get it cleaned. Silver Fox!   [End]
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And that’s the fat you can see. The unseen fat stored in the liver can kill you. For those of us that have flush our livers, the fat that was removed was not a pertty site. But I’m glad its out. I could hear my liver saying, ” Thank You.” Silver Fox!   [End]
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You are so correct. You have to measure health in years not weeks. Are you healthier today than you were a year ago? Will you be healither next year than you are today? It takes us years to get sick, we should not expect to get well in several days. Silver Fox!   [End]
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Being, If your a Fruitarian, you should be free of toxins and have a clean lymph system. You may not see anything from Oil Pulling. I have done some form of detoxing for 16 years and all I notice from pulling is a cleaner mouth, white teeth and healthy gums. Not bad though. Silver Fox!   [End]
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Depends on what your trying to do. Grow 6” and lose 50 pounds? Nope, it won’t work. Help your body detox? Yes, it will. Silver Fox!   [End]
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Sunflowers, Give it a few days and it will go away. Silver Fox!   [End]
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