I went 11 days w/o one. Just did one salt water flush on day 3 to make sure I was clean and remembered as soon as I did it, why I absolutely loathed them.   [End]
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Speaking of reading while fasting. I’ve heard that your eyes can’t focus quite as well due to deficiency of Vitamin/Mineral X or something of the sort. So, by that reasoning, reading a lot( meaning more than anything necessary), could actually damage your eyes in the long run. Like I said, this is speculation and not fact, but is there any validity to this?   [End]
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Hang in there. I thought you were gonna get your parents on your side with this.   [End]
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Wow, I’m suprised you go them so soon. Your body must have rightly jumped into ketosis. I didn’t get them till the last day of my water fast. I used to have somewhat bad acne as a kid and teenager(started at 9), but that ended around the time I turned 20 and though I’ll get a zit every now and then, it’s nothing like the severity of which I broke out on my last day. They did go away after a few days though. Since your body uses virtually every organ to assist in detox and your skin is an organ, that is one of the symptoms that you can tell your fast is working and there is less to ...
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Huhroo! Keep going if you feel good. Happy fasting.   [End]
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Nyet, sweetie. You don’t discourage people, but by your testimony of what you go through, you inform prospective fasters. This was my second fast of any length and I did the first one blind of any guidance or research, refed very poorly and probably nearly killed myself without realizing it. I did it a bit differently this time. Remember, my original plan was to go 21 days. The last one I did, I planned for maybe 5 days and I just so happened to go 8. That one seemed easy, but I cheated by chainsmoking whenever I felt uncomfortable and smoking marijuana. This last time, I did it t ...
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Again??? Sweetie, didn’t you just do 3 1/2 weeks, like a week ago? You couldn’t have even gone through refeeding before hitting this one? Seems a touch soon for my bones... IMHO. Good luck, ever what way you go.   [End]
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It should get easier, but part of it is totally mental. Sheer will and determination. I have quit smoking, but I have wanted to the few times I’ve touched alcohol since I ended fasting. That will be my biggest problem. Drinking without smoking. I haven’t been hammered yet since I stopped fasting, so we will see if I am able to resist the temptation when that comes about. I’m just going one day at a time with not smoking, because I’ve quit for long periods of time before (8 months, 50 days, 1 month, 3 weeks), so we’ll see if I can stay the course. I most certainly hope I can. ...
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I didn’t take anything myself, but I’m not deficient at all and from what I understand, you don’t really need them. I know people recommended I did(read= positive and negative critics of fasting, read= ignorant unwashed masses), but I ignored them. Whether it has any bearing on how your fast goes, that would be a question for Mighty Sun Tzu or Chris or perhaps just any faster who is more experienced than me with the concept. As it were, I think I read something that either they don’t absorb without food or that you really need them to work through food, or both. You had asked earlier ...
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You must mean the Advent or Philip’s Fast, depending on which part of the Great Schism you fall. Excellent. Catholicism/Orthodoxy is a widely respected religion that is only basically known to non members. You can tell your coaches that as a practicing Catholic/Orthodox Christian, you are fasting to be closer to your Lord and that as part of your fast, you must abstain from all types of physical arousal, whether sexual, digestive, or overexertive and you pretty much have carte blanche to fast away as you wish and are legally protected. Unless, I’ve totally missed something and it isn ...
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This is quite a dedication to undertake at such a young age. I personally thought I was a bit young to do so, but I’ve finished growing, so I thought what the hell, why not... The shame is that you will be around people your age and many of your contemporaries will have no concept of what you are doing. You may be ridiculed, mocked, and taunted. This makes me applaud your situation even more. One small benefit, is it got really easy to allow unsolicited, ignorant criticism roll off my back after a few days, because I got to a point where I simply didn’t care. I think at your ag ...
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I recently completed 11 days of an intended maximum 21 day water fast. For me, day 2 was the roughest in all, with headaches, muscle pains, etc. This may have been nicotine withdrawl as I used the fast to quit smoking too. I also had to work with and around food, alcohol, and tobacco. I personally didn’t tell my parents until I was about a week in --this is helped by the fact that I am on my own, I don’t know your age, but you sound young and as if you still reside with your parents, nothing wrong there, it helped me though simply having one roommate who didn’t give me much flak- ...
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You may have heard Nashville had some severe flooding back in early May and that closed down much of the commercial market for my bar. The three big attractions won’t be open until respectivly October 7th, November 8th, and the last is indefinitly closed. Thus, to keep overhead down, myself, my boss, and the other manager, all under salary have been working long(er) hours. My boss is an honorable guy and he’s promised to sort us out when everything comes up. In the meantime though, it’s a game of gritting your teeth and surviving. I’ll knock together some recipes for you when I get ...
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It’s more the time spent fasting that will help no so much the fact that you’re going temporarily paleo, but no I don’t get cranky or grouchy or anything. Even before my last WF that I recently finished, I could go a day, day and a half without eating and be perfectly fine. I could never understand why other people couldn’t and how my roommates and friends would occasionally get downright malicious when demanding food/hungry. I ate last around 4 this morning and am at work now and won’t be out until sometime around 4 or 5 tomorrow morning. I’ll go for a run and maybe do a light wor ...
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Did you get that off the website I gave you? I’m having an IF day today because last night, i went out with friends for a birthday and ended up eating a big dinner(grilled/steamed hibachi, but still) and having a few more drinks than I intended to(happens when you have to babysit 2 grown ass men who embarass you in your friends bar). So today, I’m having a fast day to recover from yesterdays indiscretions.   [End]
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Jase, here’s my two, red cents. I just came off an 11 day waterfast(lost about 20ish pounds). I was also working around food in a physically demanding job and the on that 11th day, I got up too quick and almost fainted. I had to stop there, because the last thing I needed was to fall into a fryer or on a grill or something. Same for you man, maybe you’re energy reserves will last you better and longer if you are obese as you say, but I can’t see 60 days as a practical waterfast for anyone in any kind of physical work. I had intended to do 21 days max, and could only muster half ...
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So, here is my aftermath so far. I went 10 days and a few hours and lost over 20 pounds. I stopped my fast on Friday afternoon and have been refeeding about 4 1/2 days now. I’ve since regained between 4-10 pounds of that weight but it is seesawing, as I eat. This was expected. My bodyfat % is still going down, albeit slower. I have been eating a primarily vegetarian balanced diet, with very little amounts of meat introduced in the last day. I am reintroducing meat, along with fried stuff, and things that are too sweet or salty, very, very slowly. So far, my goal of not sm ...
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I’m sure it’ll be normal once I start eating solid food again, but I can’t remember and am still not a huge fan of whats going on BM wise, with the diluted juices. I just can’t remember my refeeding from last time.   [End]
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no j there buddy, not enough people would know to pronounce that j properly. though, admittadly the z is more like it. still... ezvinee, nu ya dumayu ya znayu kak proiznaceet moy yazik. refeeding is going swimmingly. my digestive system has not rejected any of the diluted juice i’ve taken though I’m wondering if I’m supposed to be having quick, liquid BM’s... oh well.   [End]
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Thanks guys. It is what is is. I’dve liked to have gone on my original goal of 21 days and even longer if I had the time and resources to lay around, but life has a habit of getting in the way. I don’t feel in any way guilty or like I’ve failed, I merely set far too ambitious goals, remembering that last time was ”easy”. However, last time, I worked 2 days, and then was on vacation for a week, so I wasn’t on my feet for 10 hours at a time, running around a kitchen and bar, slinging cases of food, beer, and kegs, bouncing unruly individuals, staying awake till 6 AM and generally doing ev ...
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I have decided that after intense psychological hunger and nearly losing consciousness standing up too quickly, that it is time to break my water fast. I have not eaten in 10 days and approximately 8 1/2 hours. I have lost 19.5 pounds and have hopefully achieved my goal of avoiding relapse into nicotine. We’ll see. I would like to continue, but I am being unfair to my staff and coworkers not being able to fully pull my weight and putting myself and others in harm in nearly losing consciousness twice. Time to stop.   [End]
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I’m very pragmatic and don’t really believe in hypnomumbojumbo at all really. I’m sure I’m stepping on a lot of peoples toes when I say that. About the friend. You get used to it after a while, eventually you realize not everyone(maybe even you) is going to grow old with you.   [End]
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heh, whoops. I live in Nashville,TN. Thanks mom and dad for dragging me here. No s--- about the lack of libido. An on/off social companion was drunk and all for it and while normally she and I have a fine time, she ended up sleeping on the couch. MST, if I have to quit drinking to quit smoking, then I’m not fully sure its worth it. I’m going to give it a try, having the one without the other for a bit and it becomes an issue, well I don’t know what I’ll do. Like I said, I’ve gone plenty long before without the smoking even while drinking. I quit earlier this year for 3 weeks co ...
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Hey, think of the benefits in the future. Think of how far you’ve come. What’re you on now, more than a month or something if I’m not mistaken. You are now, farther than I had originally even intended to go(21 days). Practicality and prudence insists that I will have to break my fast earlier than I intended to for the reason that I’m not the same at work and it is a physically rigorous job. From what I’ve since learned, that I’ve made it 9 days and then some, at something resembling my typical pace is not bad. I guess I really shouldn’t be working at a physically demanding job durin ...
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Right dee dee dee. d**ba** me. I think this fast has scrambled my brain or maybe it’s the lack of alcohol.   [End]
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Frank, if you want a phenomenal recipe for greek salal, give me your private e-mail, I don’t wanna torture PS anymore.   [End]
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Frank, I know she was joking, I was too. I doubt there was anything malicious coming either way... I hear ya about the salad. Matter of fact, I’m going to have to be very careful when I come off this fast, because I’ve been fantasizing about foods I haven’t even thought of in a long time prefast and if I go and get my fix of all of them, I may as well take a post-recovery fast, so, we’ll see. I’m not hungry as I told her, I’m just dreaming of all these different foods. My greek salad(which a 3 diamond hotel room service where i used to work adopted the recipe as their own) is one of ...
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Yea, sorry, that was meant for the girl who posted before that post, who laughed @ me. No one laughs @ me.... No one! well except her i guess   [End]
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Umm, either late stage 2 or early stage 3. I know I’m in full ketosis, b/c my breath and urine smell and my mom gave me some ketostix, and they’re coming out purple, which i giess means my urine is full of acetone. Hot, I know. Oddly enough, though I frequently enjoy the company of the ladies, I’ve been oddly content to be celibate this whole time. Maybe it’s because I’m not boozing it up like I usually do. Free anything I want to drink is a perk of management and sweat equity into running the place but it can also be a curse, b/c I always wanna smoke when I drink. The two hav ...
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I’ve noticed that I can smell the smoke off my roommates breath a lot clearer and it almost irritates me but I’ve been a dedicated smoker so long that I let it slide. Whether that’s fasting or my sense of smell recovering due to not smoking, only the man in the sky knows. I can definitly smell food a lot more clearly and it does bother me because I do want it, though am not hungry. As far as my friend goes, that won’t really work, because he’s my age, with the metabolism of a sugar-high 8 year old, probably 3% body fat and in is better shape than Brad Pitt in Fight Club or Ryan ...
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::clears throat:: hmm thanks. now if you would like a direct line to how funny that is, by all means try this link... http://georgethegreek.ca/images/salmon_steak_dinner.jpg Hilarious, nyet? [Image Embedded Here]   [End]
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It’s been written and i believe it: The people who rail the most about fasting are the ones who have never skipped a meal in their lives. or something to that effect. Words gotten around and a lot of my friends are offering unsolicited advice in the guise of concern for my health and while I appreciate the thought of my health, I have to imform them that hey, I haven’t keeled over yet. Matter of fact, my friend Clare and Randy thought I’d be dead in 3 days... literally. I don’t think they believe me when I say I haven’t eaten since Tuesday morning... oh well. Worst part for t ...
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Yea, tasting the food and not being able to swallow does kinda suck. I told my boss and my cooks have seen me spitting food out then brushing, so words gotten around. They’re not messing with me too badly, but I get picture messages of dinner sometimes or regulars will waggle their drinks in front of me and taunt me that I’m not drinking (a pint of Harp would really hit the spot). But if they can’t be adults and support me in this uneasy time, then f*** ’em. I’ll find ways to torment them when it comes around.   [End]
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I think if I called you moya pahdrooga, it would imply girlfriend, I’m pretty sure moy droog works unisexually when implying platonic affection. I’m rounding day 5, almost on 6. I’m feeling ok. Still working and all at a somewhat physical bar job. More bouncery tonight. I think if I get near my 21 day maximum, I may have to turn the bouncing over to someone else. My energy is fine. I hate the heartburn but just gotta deal with it. The achiness is there but bearable and theres virtually no hunger to report. The nicotine withdrawl has pretty much streamlined out. About the jui ...
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Privet, and harasho. Hey good luck. Friend is more like droog though... Good luck man. I consider 30 days, but reasoned that I am neither fast enough or experienced enough with fasting to go 30 days. My absolute max will be 21. Great on making it so far. How are you feeling? Do you feel weak/sluggish most of the time or are your energy levels good? Keep going, moy droog.   [End]
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Hang in there hon, I’m doing my first substantial one too(21 days max, although if I make it to 18, I may stop due to a friends upcoming bday which I may be conscripted to cook for). We’ve all been there and it does get a bit easier, but it’s not so hard avoiding eating for me, so I don’t know your personal struggle. Fantasizing about eating all my favorites is tough, but I think about what I will cook myself after my fast and recovery and it tides me over. An interesting thing I’ve heard is that females who drop to a low level of body fat or drop drastically in body fat(wate ...
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Thanks, hun. When I posted that I was feeling really bad and was stessed @ work. Being the only brawling Russian, former boxer there, I handle most of the bouncery at my bar and I had to invite someone to leave by way of letting my hands speak for me, which stressed me and I wanted to drink and smoke and had to cook stuff, had a headache and I wasn’t sure whether it was the fast or withdrawl. I also felt weak and very tired, but I’m at about 97 hours now and I feel great. Energys good. Some aches and rumblings in my stomache, but not unbearable. It’s not even bothering me to have ...
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I am Russian and as much of an alcoholic as the rest of us. I’m about to hit the 97 hour mark in my WF and I actually feel great. It took my till day 6 on the 8 day one I did last year to feel like this, but despite a few aches and minor discomfort, I’m doing just fine without food, booze(which I do enjoy greatly), and nicotine(which was my primary reason to fast). So hey. No vomitting so far, nor was there any last year, but my maximum aim this time is 21 days, so after day 8, I’ll be in uncharted territory. We’ll see how it goes.   [End]
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Quitting smoking and hopefully some reduced arthritis pain. I am 23 years old and have been smoking cigarettes with dedication since I was 12. I feel that if I can put my mind to this, while staying off cigarettes, I may be better able to ”keep the quit”-as I am a professional quitter- because of the time and effort I’ve invested into it. I also researched that fasting accelrates withdrawl, so I hope to be over nicotine sooner. I also have constant, bearable pain in my hands, but it has definitly gotten worse over the last few years and hope that my water fast will help that. ...
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Already with you. Started August 3rd @ 8:00 AM. First time long time fasting. Have done a few 3-4 days and one 8 day. Aiming for 21 to quit smoking. Good luck.   [End]
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