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hemangioma of the liver (very large)

by Annie 20 years ago 38,071 † C †

Re: hemangioma of the liver (very large) by griffiths1971 19 years ago 36,692

Re: hemangioma of the liver (very large) by #162764 19 years ago 36,599

Re: hemangioma of the liver (very large) by Patty 19 years ago 36,584

Re: hemangioma of the liver (very large) by #21370 18 years ago 36,521

Re: hemangioma of the liver (very large) by donna 19 years ago 36,481

Re: hemangioma of the liver (very large) by Angela 20 years ago 36,452

Re: hemangioma of the liver (very large) by rigotti 19 years ago 36,442

Re: hemangioma of the liver (very large) by #164401 20 years ago 36,437

Re: hemangioma of the liver (very large) by #161859 19 years ago 36,332

Re: hemangioma of the liver (very large) by Mel 19 years ago 36,302

Re: hemangioma of the liver (very large) by twll 18 years ago 36,256

Re: hemangioma of the liver (very large) by olivejlt 18 years ago 36,064

Re: hemangioma of the liver (very large) by Mrs. Lightning 19 years ago 36,017

Re: hemangioma of the liver (very large) by griffiths1971 18 years ago 35,875

Re: hemangioma of the liver (very large) by grabru 16 years ago 35,387

Re: hemangioma of the liver (very large) by grabru 16 years ago 35,354

Re: hemangioma of the liver (very large) by saysay 13 years ago 35,022

hemangioma

by #163042 20 years ago 24,981 † C †

Re: hemangioma by UserX 20 years ago 24,693

Re: hemangioma by #161743 19 years ago 23,900

Re: cavernous liver hemangioma by Canadian_girl 15 years ago 23,847

Re: hemangioma by MComninel 19 years ago 23,754

cavernous liver hemangioma

by planter40 15 years ago 23,706

Re: hemangioma by #94695 19 years ago 23,506

Re: hemangioma by #164987 19 years ago 23,505

Re: hemangioma by griffiths1971 19 years ago 23,432

Re: cavernous liver hemangioma by Canadian_girl 15 years ago 23,259

Re: cavernous liver hemangioma by Canadian_girl 15 years ago 22,817

Re: cavernous liver hemangioma by srh47 14 years ago 22,590

Re: cavernous liver hemangioma by planter40 15 years ago 22,505

Re: cavernous liver hemangioma by neens 14 years ago 22,440

Re: cavernous liver hemangioma by uncomfortable 14 years ago 22,431

Re: cavernous liver hemangioma by jfk01 14 years ago 22,345

Re: cavernous liver hemangioma by Canadian Canuk 15 years ago 22,191

Re: cavernous liver hemangioma by scaredincolorado 15 years ago 22,101

Re: hemangioma of the liver (very large) by ToniED 9 years ago 22,028

Re: cavernous liver hemangioma by jfk01 14 years ago 21,981

Re: cavernous liver hemangioma by asooner 14 years ago 21,847

Re: cavernous liver hemangioma by CC77 13 years ago 21,548

Re: cavernous liver hemangioma by SnoopylovesWoodstock 13 years ago 21,437

Spleen Cysts, hemangioma on my liver, cysts on my ...

by Canadian_girl 16 years ago 21,416 † C †

Re: Large Splenic Spleen Cyst by Azurite 15 years ago 20,465

Re: Large Splenic Spleen Cyst by Canadian_girl 15 years ago 20,206

Large Splenic Spleen Cyst

by hail18 15 years ago 20,164 † C †

Re: Large Splenic Spleen Cyst by Canadian_girl 15 years ago 19,964

Re: Spleen Cysts, hemangioma on my liver, cysts on... by Canadian_girl 16 years ago 19,248

Re: Large Splenic Spleen Cyst by surley 15 years ago 19,083

Re: Large Splenic Spleen Cyst by Azurite 15 years ago 19,039

Re: Large Splenic Spleen Cyst by hail18 15 years ago 18,991

Re: Spleen Cysts by Canadian_girl 16 years ago 18,977

Re: Large Splenic Spleen Cyst by Azurite 15 years ago 18,975

Re: Spleen Cysts by Canadian_girl 15 years ago 18,935

Castor Oil? by molly bloom 16 years ago 18,905

Re: Large Splenic Spleen Cyst by hail18 15 years ago 18,902

Re: Diet, Liver Flushing, Castor Oil by #48222 16 years ago 18,899

Re: Large Splenic Spleen Cyst by hail18 15 years ago 18,838

Re: Large Splenic Spleen Cyst by surley 15 years ago 18,826

Re: Spleen Cysts by #32509 16 years ago 18,825

Re: Spleen Cysts by Arkie 16 years ago 18,785

Re: Spleen Cysts by Arkie 16 years ago 18,664

Re: Large Splenic Spleen Cyst by hail18 15 years ago 18,594

[Message Subject Hidden by a Forum Moderator] by marysfo 16 years ago 18,506

Re: Spleen Cysts by hanna 16 years ago 18,385

Re: Spleen Cysts by hail18 15 years ago 18,367

Forums can't be used for advertisement by #1877 16 years ago 18,313

Re: Spleen Cysts by hanna 15 years ago 18,307

Re: Spleen Cysts by hail18 15 years ago 18,071

Re: cavernous liver hemangioma by spongey 10 years ago 17,965

Re: cavernous liver hemangioma by Southern Alberta Girl 10 years ago 17,929

Re: hemangioma by coffee1st 9 years ago 17,310

Re: hemangioma by coffee1st 9 years ago 17,134

Re: hemangioma by coffee1st 9 years ago 17,011

Re: hemangioma by ToniED 9 years ago 16,424

Re: cavernous liver hemangioma by Liver Girl 10 years ago 16,166

Re: Yellowing of the eyes by Grapefroot 7 years ago 16,027

Early Report

by TheObserver 13 years ago 15,814 † C † R Success

Re: hemangioma by Smprettylady 8 years ago 15,579

Re: Yellowing of the eyes by msy 7 years ago 15,343

Yellowing of the eyes

by #192248 7 years ago 15,334 † C †

Re: hemangioma by Smprettylady 8 years ago 15,221

Re: Yellowing of the eyes by Heavensky 7 years ago 15,064

Re: what about a hemangioma? by SnoopylovesWoodstock 13 years ago 14,979

Re: Yellowing of the eyes by Heavensky 7 years ago 14,976

Re: hemangioma by shotsee 8 years ago 14,747

Re: Yellowing of the eyes by miked1025 7 years ago 14,714

Re: hemangioma by MYLENE 8 years ago 14,664

Re: Yellowing of the eyes by Edited By Moderator 7 years ago 14,638

Re: Yellowing of the eyes by #192248 7 years ago 14,633

Hay Ruffneck(edit) by TheObserver 13 years ago 13,943

Tea PROVEN in clinical trials to be MOST effective by TheObserver 13 years ago 13,413

Re: Skin Cancer cured with cannabis oil by Johny Apple Bomb 7 years ago 13,076 BSA 100% Cured

Re: Early Report by Ladywear 13 years ago 12,982

Re: Hay Ruffneck(edit) by #91249 13 years ago 12,974

Re: what about a hemangioma? by telman 16 years ago 12,963

what about a hemangioma?

by d- 16 years ago 12,895 † C †

Re: cavernous liver hemangioma by ToniED 8 years ago 12,847

Re: Early Report by Ruffneck 13 years ago 12,823

Re: Early Report by Flairgal 13 years ago 12,771

Re: cavernous liver hemangioma by Sona12345 8 years ago 12,690

Re: cavernous liver hemangioma by Sona12345 8 years ago 12,616

Re: cavernous liver hemangioma by Sona12345 8 years ago 12,554

Re: cavernous liver hemangioma by Sona12345 8 years ago 12,542

Re: what about a hemangioma? by telman 16 years ago 12,397

Re: what about a hemangioma? by d- 16 years ago 12,195

Re: Tea PROVEN in clinical trials to be MOST effec... by groundhog1945 12 years ago 12,062

Re: what about a hemangioma? by midge 16 years ago 12,041

Re: what about a hemangioma? by hanna 16 years ago 11,952

Skin Cancer cured with cannabis oil

by Johny Apple Bomb 7 years ago 11,509 † C † RN 100% Cured

Re: cavernous liver hemangioma by Debliver 8 years ago 11,156

Liver hemangioma survey. Conducting my own researc...

by Canadian_girl 15 years ago 11,014

My liver hurts after taking borage oil! help!

by Mordz 12 years ago 10,977 † C †

Re: My liver hurts after taking borage oil! help! by Telman 12 years ago 10,824

Re: Skin Cancer cured with cannabis oil by mu-shen 7 years ago 10,749

Re: Skin Cancer cured with cannabis oil by maxwellaj 7 years ago 10,630

Re: My liver hurts after taking borage oil! help! by Mordz 12 years ago 10,489

Re: Skin Cancer cured with cannabis oil by parazapper 7 years ago 10,446

Re: My liver hurts after taking borage oil! help! by Telman 12 years ago 10,363

Re: Liver hemangioma survey. Conducting my own res... by srh47 14 years ago 9,945

Liver Hemangioma and Flush

by Lynne 20 years ago 9,881 † C †

Re: Large Splenic Spleen Cyst by maxxmine8 8 years ago 9,430

Re: Liver hemangioma survey. Conducting my own res... by AglaiaD 14 years ago 9,373

Re: Spleen Cysts, hemangioma on my liver, cysts on... by rapunzelstudio 8 years ago 9,246

Hemangiomas & Oral Contraceptives

by #99681 14 years ago 9,199 † C †

Re: Liver Hemangioma and Flush by UserX 20 years ago 8,913

Re: Re: Re: Liver Hemangioma and Flush by UserX 20 years ago 8,808

Re: Re: Liver Hemangioma and Flush by Lynne 20 years ago 8,797

Re: Liver Hemangioma by #163042 20 years ago 8,758

Re: Liver Hemangioma and Flush by Adrienne 20 years ago 8,721

Re: Liver Hemangioma and Flush by SnoopylovesWoodstock 13 years ago 8,572

Re: HELP! Liver Function Test - Explain ? ( chroni... by Telman 9 years ago 8,390 R

Re: Any chance liver flush can shrink a liver hema... by griffiths1971 17 years ago 8,169

HELP! Liver Function Test - Explain ? ( chronic fa...

by mattleecarter 9 years ago 8,026 † C †

Re: Hemangiomas & Oral Contraceptives by #127487 12 years ago 7,823

Re: Hemangiomas & Oral Contraceptives by SnoopylovesWoodstock 12 years ago 7,657

Any chance liver flush can shrink a liver hemangio...

by marty 19 years ago 7,607 † C †

Acute Cholecystitis inflamed gallbladder

by princessmonster 11 years ago 7,513 † C †

Re: hemangioma of the liver (very large) by beckyjdonald 5 years ago 7,341

Re: Acute Cholecystitis inflamed gallbladder by #132242 11 years ago 7,179

hepatic adenomas - how to treat them?

by angela28000 13 years ago 7,116 † C †

Stalagmight: Fluke Drug Treatment Protocol - Alben... by ICU 8 years ago 7,069

How fast do liver hemangiomas grow? by AglaiaD 14 years ago 7,005

Best Meds for Liver Fluke?

by Stalactite 8 years ago 6,818 † C †

Re: Any chance liver flush can shrink a liver hema... by mcamm 13 years ago 6,784

Re: hepatic adenomas - how to treat them? by Dquixote1217 13 years ago 6,617

Re: hepatic adenomas - how to treat them? by trapper/kcmo 13 years ago 6,345

Advice for poor immune system, low energy

by ElectricVertigo 13 years ago 6,337 † C †

Stalagmight: Vitamins & Supplements During Fluke T... by ICU 8 years ago 6,311

Praziquantel Dosing Help

by #182787 8 years ago 6,227 † C †

Re: Best Meds for Liver Fluke? by username7414 8 years ago 6,215

Re: Best Meds for Liver Fluke? by username7414 8 years ago 6,180

Re: Best Meds for Liver Fluke? by Stalactite 8 years ago 6,156

Re: Best Meds for Liver Fluke? by hsongi90 8 years ago 6,152

Re: Best Meds for Liver Fluke? by username7414 8 years ago 6,151

Re: Stalagmight: Fluke Drug Treatment Protocol - A... by Stalactite 8 years ago 6,140

Re: Best Meds for Liver Fluke? by username7414 8 years ago 6,133

Re: Best Meds for Liver Fluke? by Stalactite 8 years ago 6,109

kwinter: Praziquantel Dosing - Add Milk Thistle &... by ICU 8 years ago 6,094

Is there a cure for Hemochromatosis?

by bjornbjorn 10 years ago 6,093 † C †

Re: Best Meds for Liver Fluke? by Stalactite 8 years ago 6,092

Re: Best Meds for Liver Fluke? by Cimber38 8 years ago 6,080

Re: Is there a cure for Hemochromatosis? by UserX 10 years ago 5,938

kwinter: Flukes Treatment - Praziquantel, Milk Thi... by ICU 8 years ago 5,806

Re: kwinter: Praziquantel Dosing - Add Milk Thist... by kwinter 8 years ago 5,800

kwinter: Fluke Infection-Praziquantel Dosage & Ord... by ICU 8 years ago 5,710

Re: Praziquantel Dosing Help by Aide 8 years ago 5,698

Re: Praziquantel Dosing Help by Xelaetaks 8 years ago 5,685

Re: Praziquantel Dosing Help by Aide 8 years ago 5,680

Re: Praziquantel Dosing Help by kwinter 8 years ago 5,658

Re: Praziquantel Dosing Help by HappyRaptor 8 years ago 5,653

Re: Praziquantel Dosing Help by #178856 8 years ago 5,627

Re: Praziquantel Dosing Help by Aide 8 years ago 5,589

Re: Praziquantel Dosing Help by kwinter 8 years ago 5,583

Re: kwinter: Flukes Treatment - Praziquantel, Milk... by kwinter 8 years ago 5,556

Cholecystitis and 1 cm spot on my liver likely hem...

by aur 17 years ago 5,409 † C †

Silliver Silymarin Uses For Liver Disorders by faiz45 10 years ago 5,330 † C †

Liver hemangioma question?

by marty 19 years ago 5,242 † C †

Re: kwinter: Fluke Infection-Praziquantel Dosage &... by alvy 7 years ago 5,229

Re: kwinter: Fluke Infection-Praziquantel Dosage &... by kwinter 7 years ago 5,161

Is there any way to get rid of a liver hemangioma?

by #27902 16 years ago 5,039

Re: Liver hemangioma question? by Tracey 19 years ago 4,856

yes another liver hemagioma concern folks...

by mtfo 13 years ago 4,849

Re: Advice for poor immune system, low energy by Newport 13 years ago 4,712

Re: Advice for poor immune system, low energy by trapper/kcmo 13 years ago 4,677

Re: Liver hemangioma question? by marty 19 years ago 4,667

Re: Early Report by Yolzy 7 years ago 4,611

Re: Advice for poor immune system, low energy by boatman 13 years ago 4,588

Re: hepatitis C by arce 14 years ago 4,534

Help! What is this that came out of me?

by Lterry4661 10 years ago 4,516 † C †

and visit ask trapper too by boatman 13 years ago 4,511

Re: Advice for poor immune system, low energy by LD Di 13 years ago 4,510

hepatitis C

by arce 14 years ago 4,499 † C †

Flush or not Flush liver? diffuse large Hemangioma...

by #45438 17 years ago 4,466 † C †

What supplements to fight off acute hepatitis like...

by #139029 8 years ago 4,396 † C †

Dog cancer with internal bleeding ruptured liver, ...

by #206540 6 years ago 4,359 † C †

hemangiomas

by chaplainpat 15 years ago 4,268

Re: Is there any way to get rid of a liver hemangi... by grabru 16 years ago 4,204

Re: What supplements to fight off acute hepatitis ... by #139029 8 years ago 4,176

Re: cholecystitis by hanna 17 years ago 4,102

Re: hepatitis C by demonfighter 14 years ago 4,068

Re: hepatitis C by KrazyKat 14 years ago 4,000

Re: Is there a cure for Hemochromatosis? by howironic 9 years ago 3,988

Re: hepatitis C by vickie_M 14 years ago 3,969

My New Regime

by #68391 14 years ago 3,903 † C †

Re: hepatitis C by demon-fighter 14 years ago 3,895

Re: hemangiomas by #58095 15 years ago 3,868

Re: hepatitis C by #62395 14 years ago 3,774

Re: What supplements to fight off acute hepatitis ... by nastynick 8 years ago 3,737 R Educational

Re: cavernous liver hemangioma by DeniseE 5 years ago 3,727

Comparing the J Sheridan Compound and Voltage Rais... by vairagi 6 years ago 3,713

Re: Large Splenic Spleen Cyst by #212260 6 years ago 3,669

Re: What supplements to fight off acute hepatitis ... by hanna 8 years ago 3,669

Re: Dog cancer with internal bleeding ruptured liv... by loquat1 6 years ago 3,643

Re: Dog cancer with internal bleeding ruptured liv... by #206540 6 years ago 3,632

Re: Dog cancer with internal bleeding ruptured liv... by loquat1 6 years ago 3,625

Re: Dog cancer with internal bleeding ruptured liv... by loquat1 6 years ago 3,617

Re: Dog cancer with internal bleeding ruptured liv... by vairagi 6 years ago 3,605

Re: Dog cancer with internal bleeding ruptured liv... by #206540 6 years ago 3,604

Re: Comparing the J Sheridan Compound and Voltage ... by loquat1 6 years ago 3,603

Re: Dog cancer with internal bleeding ruptured liv... by loquat1 6 years ago 3,603

Re: hemangiomas by hanna 15 years ago 3,591

Re: Dog cancer with internal bleeding ruptured liv... by loquat1 6 years ago 3,582

Re: What supplements to fight off acute hepatitis ... by hanna 8 years ago 3,547

Re: Cavernous Hemangioma by Canadian_girl 15 years ago 3,528

Re: What supplements to fight off acute hepatitis ... by #139029 8 years ago 3,519

Re: Dog cancer with internal bleeding ruptured liv... by holysin 6 years ago 3,516

Re: Dog cancer with internal bleeding ruptured liv... by loquat1 6 years ago 3,512

Re: Comparing the J Sheridan Compound and Voltage ... by loquat1 6 years ago 3,505

Re: Dog cancer with internal bleeding ruptured liv... by loquat1 6 years ago 3,503

Re: Dog cancer with internal bleeding ruptured liv... by loquat1 6 years ago 3,494

Re: What supplements to fight off acute hepatitis ... by #139029 8 years ago 3,477

Re: Comparing the J Sheridan Compound and Voltage ... by loquat1 6 years ago 3,473

Re: Comparing the J Sheridan Compound and Voltage ... by dimyself 6 years ago 3,466

Re: Large Splenic Spleen Cyst by GrumpyChronie 6 years ago 3,461

Re: Flush or not Flush liver? by Rick60 17 years ago 3,434

Study Reveals That 1 in 10 Teens Suffers from Live...

by gmitch1 10 years ago 3,414 † C †

Help me understand test results

by salenbailey 11 years ago 3,383 † C †

Can I do a Liver cleanse while detoxing Candida?

by bjornbjorn 8 years ago 3,319 † C †

Re: My New Regime by minime 14 years ago 3,275

Cavernous Hemangioma

by planter40 15 years ago 3,223

Re: My New Regime by #91998 14 years ago 3,169

Re: Study Reveals That 1 in 10 Teens Suffers from ... by physiciannaturals 10 years ago 3,133

Re: Told my liver caused the low blood platelets ? by sd2345 7 years ago 3,070

Re: Yellowing of the eyes by #85605 7 years ago 3,046

Re: Help! What is this that came out of me? by dwc928s4 9 years ago 3,037

Re: Yellowing of the eyes by Willow9 7 years ago 2,993

Re: Told my liver caused the low blood platelets ? by Johnwillton7 7 years ago 2,987

Re: Yellowing of the eyes by Willow9 7 years ago 2,979

cavernous hemangioma pain

by tlu4154 10 years ago 2,979

Re: Help me understand test results by MENDOMAID 11 years ago 2,968

Re: Told my liver caused the low blood platelets ? by Willow9 7 years ago 2,965

Re: Yellowing of the eyes by Bodazephyr 7 years ago 2,954

Re: cavernous liver hemangioma by warriorone 5 years ago 2,853

Can I do a Liver cleanse while detoxing Candida? by White Shark 8 years ago 2,851

Re: Study Reveals That 1 in 10 Teens Suffers from ... by Anthony87 10 years ago 2,835

Re: Study Reveals That 1 in 10 Teens Suffers from ... by CGally81 10 years ago 2,812

Re: hemangiomas by UTOH 13 years ago 2,811

Liver Quiver

by mygutleaks 7 years ago 2,759 † C †

Re: Help me understand test results by hayley3 11 years ago 2,759

Re: cavernous hemangioma pain by schonreid 10 years ago 2,753

Re: Study Reveals That 1 in 10 Teens Suffers from ... by Anthony87 10 years ago 2,738

The facts about liver flushes

by Bodazephyr 7 years ago 2,737 † C †

Re: Study Reveals That 1 in 10 Teens Suffers from ... by Anthony87 10 years ago 2,701

Taurine and the Heart

by #130264 10 years ago 2,694 † C †

White stone after 5th gallbladder-liver-cleanse

by waechter 10 years ago 2,678 † C †

Re: Study Reveals That 1 in 10 Teens Suffers from ... by blue.moon 10 years ago 2,665

Can I do a Liver cleanse while detoxing Candida? by #172014 8 years ago 2,628

Re: White stone after 5th gallbladder-liver-cleans... by daizymae 10 years ago 2,586

Re: Praziquantel Dosing Help by #223918 5 years ago 2,499

Re: Help! What is this that came out of me? by coffee1st 9 years ago 2,429

Need help now

by puruaguabutterflies 9 years ago 2,420 † C †

High-fructose corn syrup, high fat diet cause seve... by LuellaMay 14 years ago 2,412 † C †

Re: cavernous hemangioma pain by coffee1st 9 years ago 2,398

Re: White stone after 5th gallbladder-liver-cleans... by Michael B 10 years ago 2,392

Re: Need help now by h2olover 9 years ago 2,313

Re: cavernous hemangioma pain by coffee1st 9 years ago 2,280

Re: The facts about liver flushes by Plathinator 7 years ago 2,274

Try artichokes for liver flush by HotelParasite 7 years ago 2,263

Re: cavernous hemangioma pain by ToniED 9 years ago 2,241

Re: Try artichokes for liver flush by Plathinator 7 years ago 2,229

Re: The facts about liver flushes by #198752 7 years ago 2,224

Re: Taurine and the Heart by #130264 10 years ago 2,208

Re: The facts about liver flushes by Director 7 years ago 2,203

Re: Need help now by chirontherainbowbridge 9 years ago 2,159

Re: cavernous hemangioma pain by wardcl40 8 years ago 2,149

Liver donor complications underreported by thall72315 15 years ago 2,037 † C †

Re: Liver Quiver by Steve888 7 years ago 1,986

Green stones by DeMi 7 years ago 1,957

Re: What supplements to fight off acute hepatitis ... by #202420 7 years ago 1,956

a mass in the liver, radiography by Ivann 9 years ago 1,926 † C †

I want to hear from those diagonsed with Focal Nod... by nassyjs 15 years ago 1,893 † C †

Cavernous Angioma by Norcal 14 years ago 1,847

Re: cavernous liver hemangioma by #230946 4 years ago 1,844

Glycyrrhizine and Hepatitus C by #85022 9 years ago 1,716 † C †

Problems faced by physicians while outsourcing the... by joishina 13 years ago 1,582 † C †

all pills give me hang over/brain fog/ stiff neck...

by Bartk 6 years ago 1,347 † C †

Re: yes another liver hemagioma concern folks... by ToniED 9 years ago 1,332

Started liver flush yesterday, feeling very week, ... by Togepi 11 years ago 1,256

Re: all pills give me hang over/brain fog/ stiff ... by Steve888 6 years ago 1,161

Re: all pills give me hang over/brain fog/ stiff ... by Steve888 6 years ago 1,136

Re: all pills give me hang over/brain fog/ stiff ... by Bartk 6 years ago 1,001

Re: Light brown / tan coloured stool by Steve888 4 years ago 991

Re: Light brown / tan coloured stool by Steve888 4 years ago 981

Fatty Liver (Strange Lab Results)

by imfee 5 years ago 893 † C †

Light brown / tan coloured stool

by Healthissues00 4 years ago 878 † C †

Re: Light brown / tan coloured stool by Healthissues00 4 years ago 871

liver flushing by White Shark 5 years ago 861

Liver cysts by Bree89 8 years ago 777 † C †

Recovering after resection of liver by celia celia 9 years ago 524

Giant hemangioma of the liver by cariad 7 years ago 492

some good basic liver info by trapper/kcmo 4 years ago 470 † C †