Date:   9/13/2007 1:46:36 PM ( 17 y ago)
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no offense, but your rebuttal is very much predictable as well.

i never stated it was orchestrated by osama. the radical islamic terrorist networks are very complex. no, i made no such conclusions. my mind is open.

i agree with u on vietnam. we never fought to win because we fought for political correctness. same as iraq. and our soldiers are the pawns and victims. this outrages me every day. ironically, despite this pc war strategy, we did win vietnam even though that's not the mainstream historical opinion. in my view, nvietnam was crippled and in no way capable of continuing much further, yet they lucked-out when we did not have the public support or political will to finish the job. the media and the world then declared america "lost the war" and it became the official record. u trust that media and mainstream view of history, yes? why? because that history suits your beliefs that the american govt is bad. it sounds to me u have an objectivity of convenience.

i don't have faith in our govt or media at all. in fact the less the better, but that doesn't mean they orchestrated or co-conspired 911 or are the root of all evil in the world.

the fact remains i cannot accept web sites as proof. i'm sorry u seem offended by my position, but really, its precisely because i have NOT made up my mind that we disagree. u've bought into all the garbage and misinformation as truth and then use your military service and experience (which i applaud and respect) as the rationale for believing "they" orchestrated it. i cannot go there even though i've had a similar exp. no, it is ur mind that is closed.

the only thing i know for sure is that the trade towers could indeed collapse without demolition. i don't know what happened to building 7, but because what happened to it was odd doesn't make anything you purport to be true. but the twin towers can be weakened structurally from large, high-speed aircraft and fire, and when you cut the head off the body, it falls hard. those facts are very close to me and real because i have someone with the expertise that is tangible and credible that i know and trust explaining it to me. nobody on this forum or other crazy web sites comes close to convincing me otherwise yet.

the rest is speculation and hearsay fueled by a political and philosophical war machine that has been going on throughout the ages. finding the complete real truth in this mess is nearly impossible, so it strikes me as odd how anyone can be convinced either way.

i won't bother u anymore. thx for the chat.

 

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