Date:   9/13/2007 7:19:41 AM ( 17 y ago)
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"I take Boron all the time but can't confirm it does anything with fluoride."

THE primary reason I posted it here, along with the proposed idea that if it were shown that boron somehow affected fluoride detox, the Iodine supplementation could be reduced to maintenance or slightly above if deficient in those looking to "detox" only; no other serious issues such as fibrocystic breasts etc. As proof - Vulcanel's post in the negative and his subsequent posts that explains the "why".

It could, very well be that fluoride, along with aluminum, interferes and/or depletes boron. Consider that, according to Olree and others;

1. boron is used for the metabolism of calcium, magnesium and phosphorus,
2. boron enhances brain function,
3. boron activates vitamin D,
4. boron promotes brain activity, enhancing memory and alertness,
5. boron absorbs radiation and releases it without becoming radioactive(sparing DNA alterations),
6. boron balances the steroid hormones affecting the levels of estrogens and testosterone (why body builders use it I suppose),
7. boron has antibacterial and antifungal properties (think candida among other things)
8. boron is critical for the relaxation of the heart and arteries,
9. boron is necessary for the electrical conductivity of the heart; and,
10.boron -

deficiencies are seen in ADD/ADHD, osteoporosis, arthritis, fatigue, decreased motor function, decreased short term memory, decreased brain function, fybromyalgia, lupus, and increased loss of calcium and magnesium through urine...

When we look at this list, AND compare the list with the damaging affects of fluoride toxicity, always in cases of boron deficiencies, it becomes clear there are at least interactions and influences going on here.

In other words, one could be getting adequate calcium and magnesium, but in the absence of boron, not retain or utilize it properly.

BTW, in metal detox of water, boron is seen as a replacement for zeolite which is much more costly... is boron a heavy metal chelator? It may be at a minimum, VERY helpful in this respect, according to some patents I have run into. It is a neutron absorbant and is why it works against radioactive material. Along with adequate iodine, I see this as a 1 - 2 punch for this purpose.

You have Olree' book; cool :-)

Here are a couple of articles...

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0FDN/is_4_9/ai_n9479460

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/5880060.html

If boron deficiency is suspected in "hyperthyroidism" as the following article suggests, we would most likely want to supplement with at least 3mg a day when high dosing iodine. Hope the doctors are listening.

http://www.ithyroid.com/boron.htm

The whole "fluoride" toxicity issue could be a matter of fluoride "blocking" the action of boron, along with aluminum which does this, we are screwed without adequate boron. HOWEVER, IF supplementing with boron helps to ameliorate these issues as is proposed by all the studies out there, what IS happening with the fluoride and aluminum with the addition of adequate boron intake? Does boron muscle it out, displace it some how or outright chelate them? The inclusion of boron in metal detoxification patents as illustrated above in "Compositions to remove heavy metals and radioactive isotopes from wastewater", is curious and I need to research more, however this may be a case for at minimum the aluminum if not the fluoride as well.

There is more "proof", much more... along with controversy, however I wish ALL others would join the pertinent discussion... someone(s) besides the same bunch, over and over must be doing research out there... the more heads the better, controversy's or not.

As an additional note... While there is no RDA For boron, suggested intake is 1.5 to 3.0 "mg" a day... boron lethal dose is officially "not known" but ranges from 18 to 20 grams in adults according to some sources... where have we seen this before? There is more research to do.
 

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