Date:   9/5/2007 5:36:29 AM ( 17 y ago)
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Hello WB,

I wasn't aware that were so many other stories of floods (if, in fact, the "list" is really true).

I can't see how the Germans would actually believe that story has anything to do with a great spiritual power, it sounds more like a story from the German beer gardens.

I think that people have always tried every way that can be imagined to make the world and life make sense. I made the same mistake for 51 years, I kept waiting for the world to make sense and got very depressed about it (estranged, alienated, confused, etc.). I finally understood that the world and life are not supposed to make sense,...because, if they did, that would destroy all of the suspense, excitement, and adventure of living life. So, people have always made up stories about such things as fleas and beer and Titans and the like (folklore that fits their culture and pastimes that can be told as a bedtime story). Why the author in that link included the german story in what he claims to be research of floods is a mystery to me, he even lists "Grimm's" at the bottom.

The only other flood story I was even vaguely aware of was the Gilgamesh epic. If someone follows the bible back in time according to an uninterrupted chronological order, Noah sailed the Ark about 2349 B.C. (according to today's measurement of time). Gilgamesh is sometimes regarded by a few secular researchers as POSSIBLY being a cultural version that could have a remote connection to the events of Noah's flood (pretty big stretch there).

I think people have always tried very hard to make some kind of spiritual connection and sense out of the reality of their lives and lifestyles of their community. Most stories were probably meant for social unity and cultural pride (like the german story, "WACKY" is the right word), but I never heard of any modern belief system claiming any other flood story than that of Noah.

About 30 years ago, I read about superstitions all over the world (didn't get too far, got too creepy, dead people, chickens, lice, etc.). Even in the 1960's, the passengers of a cruise liner kept the ship from departing from a New York port because it was Friday the 13th (fear of the number 13, triskadekaphobia). Up until about 1970, most elevators did not have a button to push for the 13th floor.

Up until about 1600 or so, most people in any part of the world didn't know how to read (except maybe Renessiance Europe). One superstition/belief in ancient Ireland (maybe 1 minister every 500 miles knew how to read intelligbly) is that the devout farmers would face their sheep towards the east when they worshipped in their pasture on Sunday (some recognized two words of scripture,..."EWE" and "EAST"). No doubt The Lord accepted that as a very heartwarming devotion.

A good example of how the world has always tried to make sense out of everything is the number 666. Everybody has always tried to make it mean more than it does and make it "fit" a person's identity (literary reference). Of course, if it did, it would have to refer to that same name in ALL languages (the only universal symbols are numbers, NUMERICAL reference only). Since all the world's great scientific scholars couldn't figure out that languages are different, people still continue to make up names.

There should be no doubt that God always knew that the correct version of His book would contain 66 books (perfect and complete, but the problem has always been that it is INTERPRETED with the wrong spirit, the spirit of the 6th day creation). God always means to tell us something in scripture (point something out), but few are ready to LISTEN to His word, John 10:27, RSV.
This understanding is only what The Lord pointed out to ME at that particular time (because I wished to make some sense out of INTERPRETATION, but it might actually have even less relevance to modern life). In the 1950's, the radio advertisements for Bosco? chocolate drinks had a secret code for children to figure out if they send away for a "decoder ring". I don't think that the great God would have any practical purpose for giving His children a secret code to use with a decoder ring.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hexakosioihexekontahexaphobia




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilgamesh





http://eawc.evansville.edu/essays/brown.htm




I did read the author's version of Noah's flood and recognized that he made up a lot of ridiculous explanations, scenarios, and names, so I wouldn't think that he can really be trusted as credible/truthful about any cultural beliefs.

I also wish the world made sense, but I guess God (in His great wisdom) never meant it to (it would eliminate creativity, LOVE).








 

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