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Willy's baggie; an anecdotal report of its effect on depression by nutrientscure ..... Depression Forum

Date:   7/30/2007 2:35:22 PM ( 17 y ago)
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Dear group:

Earlier this July, I went on a “little road trip” to see if I could help out the friend of a person that I had met on the Internet. The person that was open to my assistance was a bipolar woman that was severely depressed. I don’t have all of the details, but what follows is the gist of my recent trip as best as I understand it:

The doctor(s) treating this bipolar woman over the years had found that she was not responding very positively to various antidepressant medications. They finally recommended to her that she undergo a series of ECT treatments for refractory depression. She was in the midst of this series of ECT treatments (and had already had some) when I arrived at her house at about 5 P.M at night. An ECT session was scheduled for the very next morning at 8 A.M.

When I arrived the woman in question was a bit hesitant to take one of Willy’s baggies “whole”. It seemed to be “just too many capsules or tablets” for her to take all at once. To work around this, I asked her if she would take part of a baggie and she said, “Yes”. At this point I stripped the entire broad based amino acid portion out of one of the same baggies that continues to profoundly help my son Willy and I. I gave these capsules to this woman to take, which she did. She also took L-carnitine, phosphatidyl choline, the multi-vitamin/multi-mineral, additional vitamins of B complex and C, and the super blue-green algae portion of Willy’s baggie at the same time. (I left out the oils, and some of the tablets or capsules that I thought were less necessary in regard to “potential antidepressant effect”.)

In addition to the above, I had brought my juicer with me, and I juiced some cabbage, kale, Swiss chard, and zucchini squash. This woman drank about 12 ounces of this veggie juice soon after she took a portion of my son’s baggie (as described above). All of this occurred between 6 and 7 P.M. (within a few hours after I arrived at this woman’s house).

About two hours after the woman that I was attempting to help took the above, she said, “I feel much better. I don’t want to go to my ECT treatment tomorrow”. After talking it over with her husband, it was agreed to forego her ECT treatment scheduled for the next morning.

As this woman had severe sleep problems in addition to being depressed, I gave her 1.5 grams each of tryptophan and taurine, in addition to vitamin C and some calcium and magnesium, to see if it would help (I had reason to know that tryptophan would not be excitatory for her when I did this). Although she still used medication on top of this rather simplistic inhibitory nutrient regime to go to sleep, she reported that the nutrients that I gave her at bedtime definitely helped, and that she slept a few hours longer than normal vs. when only taking her sleep medications. (If I had both the time and material to work with I would have tried to add GABA, histidine, and glycine to tryptophan and taurine to see if they helped or not, as "the more inhibitory amino acids the merrier... as far as one's night cocktail of inhibitory nutrients for sleep goes". I might have tried adding some phosphatidyl choline and a B-complex vitamin to this night cocktail as well... keeping them if they helped and discarding them if they did not.)

The next day this woman did not hesitate, and took a whole baggie in the morning. For breakfast I made this woman a “green shake” with powdered “Miracle Greens”, fresh pineapple, and spring water. Later in the afternoon I juiced vegetables for her again, as well as counseled her on what potential food allergens she might be eating (the gluten grains, dairy, corn, EGGS, peanuts, citrus, the nightshade family, etc.) that she would be wise to at least temporarily avoid (until she determined if she was allergic to them or not). I also talked to her about subjects such as probiotics, digestive enzymes, and other alternative health measures, and how they might help her.

Prior to my leaving to return home the evening after I arrived, this woman’s husband ordered many of Willy’s baggie ingredients off of the Internet, so that they could make up their own baggies, as the woman had responded so positively to them. (Out of the material that I had brought with me, I left a handful of baggies to hold this woman over until material that they had ordered over the Internet arrived.)

One concrete example of “positive response” was that the woman that I had helped began to spontaneously play guitar and sing during the afternoon, something she had not done for months, due to her severe depressive state. She was amazed that she could do this, and amazed that “she even felt like doing it”, as it had been so long.

Just before I left, I had one last cigarette out on the porch with this woman. She thanked me for what I had done for her, but this was not enough. As we stood to rise, she reached out to hug me, and gave me a long and very heartfelt hug. She also began to cry… tears of happiness for sure. I will remember this touching moment for the rest of my life. (I cannot thank this woman enough for the trust and the love that she gave to me, as well as the validation.)

What follows is copy that I got in a card from this woman about a week after I got home:

Dear Allen: Your kindness has brought light and health into my life! Thank you!!! You're very special! Gracias por todo! p.s. We truly enjoyed your company.

In essence, here was a bipolar woman that had suffered from recurrent Depression for decades, and one whom the conventional medical model had “more or less given up on” in regard to the use of antidepressants, and were using ECT on, that experienced profound relief from her depressive state in a matter of hours by the use of broad based nutrient therapy. She also experienced an almost complete remission of her longstanding and severely depressed state in only about a single day. Wow! to say the very least. (I have been representing this degree of power in regard to nutrients, natural measures, etc. for the treatment of Depression for over seven years.)

I do hope to follow up with this woman sometime in the fall, when I can afford to get away again, and when I have a little time. The story being generated here might be important. I sincerely hope to learn more in regard to this woman’s healing progress in the future, and to be able to report such to the Internet when I do.

Also on this road trip I took in early July, I briefly met a man diagnosed with schizophrenia. This person took one of Willy’s baggies, to see if it would help him. (Although I told him that I had never given one of Willy’s baggies to a schizophrenic before, he was willing to gamble and try one.) His report the next day was “This is good stuff! I could think much clearer and better” (as a result of taking a single baggie). Unfortunately, this person does not use email, nor do I have a phone number, but I do hope to get a chance to run into him again.

Although the above two anecdotal (and necessarily anonymous) reports should only be considered “very preliminary data”, they certainly gave me greater hope that what I have represented to dozens of egroups during this past year in regard to the healing power of Willy’s baggie is the truth. Over time I hope to generate more “anecdotal proof” similar to the above, as I find more volunteers to work with (hopefully in states fairly close to me, such as MA, PA, NJ, OH, CT, RI, VT, and NH, or in my home state of NY).

Incidentally, I did not charge any of the people mentioned above a dime, nor did I receive any money from them. At this point, I do not charge for my time, nor do I have any commercial agenda whatsoever. When I have sample baggies, I am willing to freely give out a few of them to those persons willing to try baggies, drink organic veggie juice, etc. and accept my counseling for a few days or so in person. Simply contact me off list at allen_dar@yahoo.com if you are interested in trying what I have to offer, and if you are located in any of the states mentioned above. I can’t say exactly when I can make it out to see any one in particular, but within the next year I hope to travel to some of the states that are close to me in order to meet with and attempt to help at least a half a dozen persons that are depressed, bipolar, and/or schizophrenic (similar to what I recently did in the story above).

Sincerely,

Allen Darman

p.s. #1: The specifics of the ingredients in Willy’s baggie, as well as much of what I know, can be found on various blogs on
http://360.yahoo.com/allen_dar

For those who are having difficulty finding Willy's baggie ingredient list on the Yahoo site listed above (due to their being over 40 blogs on this site), I have reposted his baggie ingredient list, and a more detailed explanation of this baggie on
http://nutrientscure.blogspot.com/


p.s. #2: I am writing this on a new Dell laptop that I got a few weeks ago. This new computer already shows definite signs of “being targeted and hacked in to”. I have also had very unusual difficulty with over a dozen different personal computers since my son Willy’s rather amazing ADHD/childhood bipolar recovery story was widely cross posted to the Internet last June. (A few times during this past year computers that I have been using in a public library were definitely hacked in to while I was using them. This is bizarre, to say the least.)

I find myself in the ironic position of “the world not yet quite believing what I am saying”, while being repetitively hacked and/or otherwise harassed over the Internet by parties that simply have to be associated with the drug companies in some way. (There is no other reasonable explanation in my mind but “a drug company or companies” for the extraordinary difficulties I have had over the Internet for the past thirteen months or so. Willy’s baggie, or a close rendition thereof, coupled with allergic food avoidance, and “straightening out the gut” and whatever this entails, threatens the entire class of antidepressant medications, if not so much more.)



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