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Re: The Four Amazing Juices by Dquixote1217 ..... Kevin Trudeau Discussion

Date:   7/24/2007 4:58:55 PM ( 17 y ago)
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Here is what Dr. Ray Sahelian has to say about each of the four juices/berries:

Noni

At this point, there are no scientific data to support the use of a noni extract or noni juice as a substitute for any standard medical treatment. Patients who are looking for additional help in treating mild infections, cancer or chronic pain could try noni, realizing that the benefits are likely to be minimal. Perhaps future research will give us additional clues to the potential therapeutic benefits of using noni juice or noni powder. In the meantime, due to its content of various nutrients, noni juice and noni supplement is healthy to consume as part of an overall balanced diet. However, we discourage high dose noni use for prolonged periods. Use noni at most every other day


Acai Berry
Human studies with acai fruit or acai extract are lacking, therefore no firm statements can be made regarding the clinical uses of this plant. However, eating acai berry or taking an acai berry supplement as part of a healthy diet seems to be a reasonable approach. An acai berry extract supplement can be taken once or twice a week with breakfast.

Goji berry
   I do believe that goji berry has health benefits and future research will indicate which of the goji marketing claims will turn out to be accurate and which will turn out to be overly enthusiastic. For the time being, it appears that one goji berry health benefit that has promise is in the realm of vision health. Goji berry has a high level of zeaxanthin which is a nutrient, along with lutein, necessary for optimal eyesight. I would suggest, though, rather than consuming goji berry predominantly, it would be a good idea to consume a variety of berries - cranberry, blueberry, strawberry, etc - in order to ingest a number of different phytonutrients.

Mangosteen
Until human trials are done, it is difficult to make any recommendations regarding the benefit of mangosteen. Does mangosteen work well when taken as a supplement? What is the ideal mangosteen dosage? How often should mangosteen be taken and for how long? Does mangosteen have side effects when taken for prolonged periods of time? These are questions that still need to be answered through rigorous mangosteen research.  However, some of the in vitro studies regarding mangosteen's anti-cancer potential are intriguing and certainly worthwhile to further explore. Several compounds found in mangosteen may have potential health benefits. However, until actual research human studies are done, it is difficult to know for certain what role mangosteen juice or mangosteen supplement extracts play in health and disease.

Most of the studies with mangosteen have focused on the pericarp, or the dark, woody rind as opposed to the fruit inside the woody rind. The pericarp contains the active xanthone compounds. The fruit itself probably has some beneficial compounds but the compounds within the mangosteen fruit have not been studied as well as the mangosteen rind.

and here is what Dr. Joel Fuhrman of Diseaseproof.com (a site about preventing and reversing disease through nutrition) says:

Ineffective Anti-Cancer Remedies: Exotic Tropical Fruit Juices

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From the January 2006 edition of Dr. Fuhrman's Healthy Times:

Juices and extracts of exotic fruits and vegetables such as mangosteen, gogi berries, Chinese lycium, acia, Siberian pineapple, cili, noni, guarana, and black currant are touted as wondrous super foods with a myriad of health claims. Certainly, eating exotic fruits from all over the globe can add valuable phytochemical compounds with the potential for beneficial effects. I see no reason why these fruits and their juices should not be used as part of a varied diet with a wide assortment of phytonutrients. Broadening our variety of health-supporting nutrients from exotic foods has value in building a strong immune defense against cancer.

The confusion arises when marketers claim that the juices can cure cancer or kill cancer cells on the basis of studies that show that some component in the juice or other part of the plant has been shown to kill cancer cells. Just because a concentrated chemical derived from a food can kill cancer cells in a test tube does not make that food a cure for cancer.

For example, some of the non-tasty parts of these plants have been shown to cause the death of human cancer cells in test tubes. But there have been no experiments with actual cancer patients (or patients with other diseases). It's likely that many exotic fruits are highly nutritious, but there is also the possibility that some of the touted benefits seen in scientific studies arise from the medicinal effects, which are toxic. These medicinal effects are often confused by marketers with the nutritive effects of the fruit.

If something is beneficial against cancer, then one or more of the following conditions must be met:

1. The substance must be a compound that is more toxic to cancer cells than normal cells (similar to chemotherapy, which can shrink cancerous tumors and kill rapidly growing cancer cells because these cells are more sensitive to the effects of poison than normal cells);


2. It must supply nutritive substances that increase the person's defenses against the disease, thereby curtailing the spread of cancer via immunostimulating or immunosupportive means and increasing cancer survival (typically by slowing the spread of cancer);

3. It must have hormonal blocking effects that lessen the effect of the body's endogenously produced hormones that promote the spread of cancer.

When we look at the studies presented on these natural foods, we have to attempt to differentiate between a medicinal (toxic) effect due to a noxious compound in the plant and a nutritive effect due to the phytonutrient content. Promoters of these fruits and juices tend to lump all of the studies together, trying to make their product look like a magical food that can promote wellness and also kill cancer cells. But just because the toxic part of the plant has the ability to kill cancer cells in a test tube does not mean the substance will be an effective agent against cancer.

For example, one reason why I hesitate to recommend noni juice for healthy people is because of its ability to seemingly increase one's energy and to reduce pain. For a product to have such powerful medicinal effects, it must contain natural compounds with toxic properties. As a result, it isn't wise to consume these compounds continually over a lifetime. It is too much like a drug.

Noni juice may be good as an aid for elderly people who lack energy or who regularly experience discomfort. But it is inaccurate to claim that these benefits come from the nutritive components. The drug effects come from the toxic components. Natural substances with strong medicinal effects should be avoided unless you have a medical condition that warrants this type of therapy.

It should be noted that Dr. Sahelian recommends, as do I, that if you do take any of these four fruits and/or juices, you mix them with a variety of other fruits, juices and anti-oxidants, such as blue berries, pomegranates, cranberry, strawberry, cocoa bean powder, curcumin, apple juice, carrot, etc.

And Dr. Fuhrman appears to echo Dr. Sahelian in regards to avoiding a long and steady consumption of any one so-called super nutrient.

I look forward to your report on raw honey.  It would be so much sweeter if it contained nary a mention of KT.

DQ

 

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