Date:   4/22/2004 5:25:00 PM ( 20 y ago)
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plz. need urgent advice!
I posted my problem here
//www.curezone.org/forums/m.asp?f=330&i=28
and started to use recommendation were given to me. IT WORKED!!!
my daugter does not have any pain right now, last time we were in hospital ultrasound has shown some tiny structures in my daugter gallbladder ~1-2mm, but no shadows, no calcium. But the surgeons from the hospital contacted Children Aid, with the letter that there is a threat for my daughter health if we will not make the surgical gallbladder removal, the Aid is threatening us that they will go to court, take the daughter from us by force and remove her gallbladder without our concent. below you can see a text of the message to some officials.
My daughter is totally scared after the talk with Children Aid social worker. Who has experience with these matters,
any advice are urgently needed.
Kateryna.

I substituted below my daughter name by ******

3.04.2004

Dear Sir/Madam,
I believe my daughter ******** *******is facing now discrimination from
representatives of Childrens Hospital of Eastern Ontario (CHEO) which I
believe
can be considered as an attempt of
I. unusual cruel treatment
which is possibly based on:
II. her religious and national background
As a result I believe her health could be in danger as a result of this
situation. Please, undertake nessessary investigations and steps to
help us.

In more detailes I. unusual cruel treatment:
We believe that the patients rights of our daugter ********* **********were
violated
during her treatment at
CHEO last year. We made a formal complaint to The College of Physicians
and
Surgeons
of Ontario (please see below some relevant
materials).

As you can see even from the text below ******** received different
discrepant
diagnoses during her 2 years treatment at CHEO. One of her last
diagnoses
sounded as inflamation of her gallbladder as a result of calculi in her
gallbladder. This type of health problem has different types of
possible
treatment which include- a)surgical removal of the gallbladder itself,
b)surgical removal of the calculi from the gallbladder, c)spliiting the
calculi
by ultrasound, d)chemical dissolving of the calculi.
During our talks with surgeon Dr.Cheo and Dr.Mack we indicated that we
are
strongly opposed to the a) way of treatment because every operation has
a risk
of death for ********* and also removal of a vital organ can result in
negative
health consequences for our daughter.

As we understood from the talk with Dr.Cheo, other representatives of
the CHEO
and from medical literature this type of sickness has no direct danger
for
health of a patient actually the patient can live all life with stones
in
gallbladder, sometimes the stones can dissolve itself. As a result
during
November 2003- January 2004
**********'s case was not considered as urgent by CHEO we were fighting
that period
of time just for appointment with gastroenterologist. All CHEO
representatives
told us that our case is totally non-urgent(letter from CHEO) in the
case of
pain we should just go to the emergency department of the CHEO. During
our
second last appointment with Dr.Mack we clearly indicated that we were
choosing
non-surgical way of ******** treatment (i.e. chemical stones dissolving).
Dr.Mack
agreed with us but told that only small Gallstones (diameter less 1cm)
can be
chemically dissolved and sent ******** to ultrasound to determine the
size of the
Gallstones (statement signed by me and a representative of CHEO). The
team of
the doctors who performed ultrasound told that ******** had not formed,
"ghosty"
formation in her gallbladder which was not solid (no traces of calcium-
no
shadows on ultrasound pictures). The size of the gallbladder formation
were less
than 4mm which made for example chemical dissolving treatment possible.
But in
the letter from hospital with the results of ultrasound the size of the
calculi
was not even mentioned.

Later in March 2004 Den Teneycke tel (613)7477800 ext 2137 from
Childrens Aid of
Ontario contacted my daugter, my son and my wife and informed them that
Dr.Mack
had written a letter with indication that the operation of gallbladder
is
necessary for ******** and their father (me) has problems problems with
his
"attitude" that can damage ******** health. During an interview with
******** he
told her that she also has the same "attitude" problems similar to her
father
(me) and that she must change herself as soon as possible. Actually
these types
of humilating remarks deeply offended my daughter. She concidered
herself as a
bright individuals withing decent family of high educated canadians
without any
types of negative records in the past. Also Mr.Teneycke informed my
family that
the Aid has power to take her from the parents (us) by force and to
make the
surgical removal of her gallbladder againist our will. In his letter he
indicated that our case now under investigation by the Aid and we (my
wife me)
are concidered as parents who does not want or are not able to provide
necessary
treatment for our daughter.
I believe that the actions of CHEO representatives can be concidered as
an
attempt of unusually cruel treatment. In the situation of multiply
diagnoses for
******** our complaint, different possible treatment for ******** the
representatives of CHEO (i.e.Dr.Mack, Dr.Cheo) created the artificial
situation
when theoretically the situation that the worst and most cruel
treatment will be
applied for ******* and will make her handicaped for the rest of her
life is
possible.

In more detailes I believe ********* human rights can be violated as a
result of
II. her religious and national background.
I.e.during our second last appointment with Dr.Mack he asked about our
nationality and religion. I told him that we are proud to be canadian
though
originally we were from the Ukraine and belong to christian orthodox
church. Dr.
Mack in presence of my wife, my daughter, and a nurse told us that it
is will be
very "hard for us here" though "********accent is almost unnoticable",
and "my
accent can be understood" and that we must move away from Ottawa,
somwhere to
other places "like Toronto, Quebec or somwhere where there are a lot of
ukrainians like you" to "look for a treatment there". He also
recommended may be
even to move back to the Ukraine and look for a treatment there if we
"do not
like canadian treatment". Actually during last appointment in January
2004 the
situation went totally wrong almost out of control when he hit a few
times the
table with brutal force using hardcopy of ******* medical records and
shouted in
my face a humilating remark about my mental capabilities.


Sincerely,
 

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