Date:   7/22/2007 1:51:28 PM ( 17 y ago)
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Yes, GRZ, I am sure of what I wrote.

I imagine you are somewhat familiar with bioreactors and how proteins are then isolated from this mixture of media, cells, detritus, metabolic waste, and lipids, phospholipids and all the other proteins.

When prebiotics work; which they only seem to in a minority of people, they do so by acting as part of intestinal flora – that is, just breaking down food by digesting it. This is vastly different than the activity of enzymes. Enzymes work directly on a molecule. So I repeat: "Probiotics have more to do with intestinal flora, than “enzymes”; as usual ML has no idea what he is writing."

The reason that probiotics seem to work in a few people is likely due to a compromised profile, or a reduced population – there is no general improvement as you write. I am of the opinion (only an opinion) that there is nothing wrong with taking probiotics, but the common (ie. healthy person) user is will be lucky to see a minor effect and most will see none. I have never seen any effect in me, and I due to my exercising put my body under more stress than necessary – neither have the 4 young people whom I informally coach and once put them on the stuff for 12 weeks. I believe this coincides with the previous experience I related regarding no observable effect of bromolain/papain supplement in my young dogs and a minor (but observable) one with the ones near the end of their life.

And it is amusing to me that ML is, since the probiotics come in mainly acidic foods. And it is the very acidity which confers the beneficial aspect in those it helps. It is the acidity which prevents other undesirable bacteria from taking hold and setting up residence…. Hey just like in our acidic skin mantle.

And as far as the Carbon and Nitrogen cycles; once again you play the benign creative interpreter to ML’s irrational ideas. If you understand both N/C cycles and then looked as his statements with a critical eye, it would be obvious that he is not saying anything that is remotely true. His idea of the C and N cycle has nothing to do with what you (I assume) and I understand it to be.

Though really, this was pretty straightforward to me… His piece on watermelons and urination made me laugh outright, though on the serious side it is potentially dangerous.

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