Date:   6/28/2007 11:08:08 PM ( 17 y ago)
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Hello, Shroom.

Re: Lyme

Should I say it again? I would advise you and anyone else to not assume that the answer behind a Health problem is always as "simple" as matching a list of symptoms to 'Lyme', which is what many m.d.'s do [not necessarily "Lyme" doctors] when they "diagnose" based on 'list of matches' criteria. If the solution were that "simple", the problem should have been solved a long time ago by many Lyme experts, maybe, and there are many of those experts out there.

What if the patient is carrying "Lyme" and another equally relevant infection as well [which is usually the case]? Have you any idea how difficult it is to actually diagnose "Lyme", to the point that doctors need to rely on 'empirical' diagnosis based on clinical suspicions alone? :

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Diagnosis

The most reliable method of diagnosing Lyme disease is a clinical exam by an experienced practitioner, taking into account symptoms, history, and possible exposure to ticks in an endemic area. Clinicians who diagnose strictly based on the U.S. Centers for Disease Control (CDC) Case Definition for Lyme are in error, as the CDC explicitly states that this definition is intended for surveillance purposes only, and is "not intended to be used in clinical diagnosis."[76][77]

The EM rash, which does not occur in all cases, is considered sufficient to make a diagnosis of Lyme disease and prompt treatment without further testing. In fact because of the undisputed high rate of false negatives during the early stage of the disease (before a sufficient antibody response has been established), it is recommended that tests not be performed when a patient has an EM rash.[78][79][80]

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyme_disease
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Do you know how and why I suspect that Microscopy alone can not diagnose Lyme?

If an assumption of Lyme is made, then what? Over a year of really strong Antibiotics which by the way lower your defenses anyway [not to mention the possible liver/kidney involvement to name two]? What if it weren't Lyme to begin with?

Don't you realize [yet] how you seem to be going in circles with [the prediction of] your affliction? How long has it been, two months? Three? First it was this, then that, now it's Lyme with a different set of assumptions [Re: [for example - your words] "..This could put into motion a cascade of events which lead to immuno-suppression factors, opening the doors to specific parasitic infections--depending on transfered viral or bacterial pathogen.."].

By the way, that particular assumption is the one made by most experts involved with Lyme, of which they have no proof either.





A simple and open question for Lyme experts:

Why does a tick with the Lyme bug in it bite two persons during the same periods of time and under similar conditions, and maybe infects one of them but maybe not the other?

If you answer this one correctly with Truth, you can beat Lyme, my bet.
 

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