Date:   6/25/2007 4:59:48 PM ( 17 y ago)
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[quote=Snave2000]It is interesting that you should equate the concept of the corporation with death.[/quote]

In the original concept of corporation property was owned under the concept of 'mortmain' or 'with a dead hand'.

[quote=Snave2000]Also, I use real money. The dollar bills that pass through my hands are as real as the computer on which I'm currently typing this post. [/quote]

Nope. Phoney as a two dollar bill. You might be holding them but, as a debt instrument, you don't 'own' them. Since you don't 'own' them why do you presume that you may pay your debts with them? In fact, here is a simple test to prove the point:

Approach a U.S. marshal (in a friendly manner) and ask him to witness you holding a twenty while applying a match to one end of it. If he doesn't haul you to jail I will gladly replace the twenty. The principle is that if you own it then you can destroy it. The Federal Reserve System doesn't appreciate you turning their property to smoke.

Now reflect on the topic of this thread, that the Ellis machine doesn't work and Mr Ellis is committing fraud. Yet the colorable person who makes this claim paid with a credit card or with fiat currency while Mr Ellis provided an instrument of substance. Exactly who has committed the fraud?

See, with fiat debt based currency you really don't extinguish a debt as happens under Law, you merely discharge the debt. If paying a debt with another debt worked I would have the presses going fulltime churning out IOUs. When one IOU came due it would be replaced with another. Wait, this is simply fractional reserve at work.

As to gravity holding you to your chair, if you paid for it with your hard earned fiat money, the debt is still outstanding and it cannot be your chair, can it? The same goes for your computer. Things of color don't possess things of substance. (Smoors Law)
 

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