Date:   6/17/2007 2:41:11 AM ( 17 y ago)
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Duane, you have no right to judge my ability to think or my motives.

I did not come here to hawk wares - nor have I profitted from helping the few who have emailed me to ask questions. I saw the forum, was interested to see it and started in- but you're right, I certainly didn't go back and read 15 pages of posts. why would I? Why should I care what someone said 2 years ago? Much of it isn't relevant anymore anyway.

You are so patronizing and judgemental- Who pays you to do these posts? I can't believe that anyone is so desperate for approval that they would spend all this time trying to dicredit internationally respected men and women and not be be paid by somebody.

If you approached any of the glyco-scientists you have said you have spoken to in the tone of voice and demeanor that you display here, it doesn't surprise me that you didn't get anything. I wouldn't give you anything I had either, if you approached me the way you do here.
But maybe you're not spending that much time and are just cutting and pasting from other posts you've done?

The tragedy is that people who need help can easily get lost in your pomposity and negativity and I truly hope they don't die for lack of knowlege. It's very hard to find that nugget of gold in this very muddied stream.

So for them, since nothing that the company itself or any of the researchers say means a thing to you, I'll say this for anyone who is seeking true real information about how glyconutrients and phytonutrients can give your body the building blocks it needs to repair damage from whatever source.

The AMA and CMA to name just 2 national medical associations have deemed that the educators who teach on glycoscience are reputable and scientifically correct enough to accredit their courses as Continuing Education Courses which medical practitioners must take regularly to maintain their licences to practise. (www.proevity.com)

I personally have actually met and spoke with often enough with the people I named that they know who I am. I was not 'name-dropping' to boost my own ego and prestige, I was saying that I know them, I know their hearts and their character and I simply do not believe that people of the highest integrity, generosity and kindness of these men would just lie for what? To make enough money to give it all away to poor orphans on the other side of the world?

This is what I mean when I say you don't make sense. I may not know all the Science you do, but I certainly know human nature. And people who live as these people do are fundamentally incapable of the disreputable behaviour you accuse them of.

These people have laid everything they have on the line for the Science they have discovered and for what it will do for those who are ill and dying. There is no benefit to them to do the dastardly things you say they do. It just doesn't make sense.

And I defy you to try and convince the mom of the CF kids who are now off all drugs, have gained weight, can now do martial arts etc- try and convince them that Dr Reg and company have no idea what they are talking about- or people like me who were given life back after 5 years in bed; the first year I had no idea what I was even taking or what it was even supposed to do. A NURSE who also suffered with fibro GAVE it to me- didn't make any money- gee whizz- and because I trusted her, I took it... and it gave me life back. I dont' need peer-reviewed studies to tell me it works. I and 4 other members of my family are WELL today- after heart attacks and strokes, ashma, ADD, etc... The others took the stuff kicking and screaming- no placebo effect there.. but when my PhD student calls home and says, "make sure Dad's taking the A*****ose- I'm taking it again and I can see a huge difference in how my brain functions" all the stuff you want to post til hell freezes over means absolutely nothing to me.

When you hold reality in your hand you don't NEED theory!

And, just fyi as you try to make me out to be some money grabbing slime along with the rest- whose only motive is the big bucks, I have sent more children to MannaRelief than I have EVER sold to their parents- so don't tar me with the greedy sales shyster brush!

You don't know my heart and you don't know me but it doesn't stop your motor mouth.


True, all the peer-reviewed studies are not pbulished, but somehow there was enough real Science out there in at least ActaAnatomica and PubMed that Dr Alex Omelchuk (www.dralex.net) read that made him want to try the products. He has said in my physical presence that he had tried everything else out there that he could find to no avail. But he took THESE PARTICULAR PRODUCTS and not only got rid of the pain which was his real issue, but went from a 35% brain function loss due to his stroke to recovering to a 95%+ functioning brain.

So if the SCIENCE was good enough for Dr Omelchuk, a medical school professor and Dr Ben Carson, also a medical school prof, why is it that you have to waste such time and incredible negative energy trying to dispute issues that no one is really arguing.

DO you truly think people build international reputations just to throw them away on a whim? As I said before, who are you really?

And frankly, why would the big pharmas be trying to synthsize the sugars and attaching them to their cancer drugs particularly - if they didn't work... and what about Dr Freeze? Why would he use them with this sick kids if they didn't work? And don't pretend he doesn't. Anyone who can Google can find out what he has done.

Please deal with the REAL world here Duane, not your theoretical ivory tower.

The science is young and more studies are coming out all the time. But why when there was much less research published in 2004 than now, WHY would MIT invite Dr Robert Murray, whose work you have just slandered, to represent the company technology at the 2nd Annual Emerging Technologies Conference? Is there no one there who thinks as well as you do either?

When you buy a car do you insist that the car dealer know all the physics and chemistry behind auto mechanics and to be able to tell you in molecular detail how the car goes from stationary to moving before you buy it? Of course not.

But you insist that the associates should be a biochemist and fully able to explain all the intricate workings of the MONOsaccharides and how they work before it's legitimate to put them on the market? I think not.

But you think it entirely fair and legitimate to take pot shots at people who have invested their entire lives in helping others because you want to throw a tantrum that all the studies haven't been published yet?

There are people facing death who need glycos to recover. I truly hope that if and when any of them read your posts they somehow manage to sift through all the many many words that go over and over the same broken record, and hear that you do say, 'I don't say they don't work, they do'.

I guess it just amazed me that you have so much time on your hands that you have to attack what admitedly works. Which again, begs the question, who is paying you? How do YOU profit from all your negative energy you pour out onto this forum?

Most of your stuff I will not respond to but you have been told over and over that the rice is a glucose source NOT a filler.

Your most recent posts to me as well as this one have been sent to the company for their response. Since the one response I did post from them meant nothing to you, I'm not going to waste my time giving you the others but I will file them for my own information and if anyone wants to email me for them, they can have them. There are answers to your potshots and I'll get them

On the other hand. When the mission is to help people, why should I ask them to waste time with the naysayers?

Ghandi didn't so why should we? It must make you proud to prove his axiom: "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then they ignore you and then you win" You keep attacking; I'm winning.

Seriously though, since you attack Dr Bird for his ignorance too, why do you send people to his recipe?

I have repeatedly said, your actions and reasoning just don't make sense.

Please think about this: if the company associates had not responded to this forum, how would any of those people have ever learned that if they can't afford A*****ose but have lots of time and energy and are confident in their own abilities to get it right, they can make the stuff themselves? How would they have ever learned this?
Only one company has educated associates well enough to take the information of glycos to the forums- so stupid brainwashed, incapable of independent thought sheep- at least we've had some purpose for good- to give you a forum to let the world know that if they have time, energy, a computer, a credit card and the proper tools at home, they can make their own,... good... go for it.

Unfortunately you couldn't resist showing off your own magnificent brainpower as well but hopefully, people will ignore that part.

I personally am through with your game Duane.
My time is much too valuable to waste it arguing with someone whose hands are over his ears and eyes.

There are too many sick people who need help to waste energy and time on this thread with you.

I do note though that there really are not all that many people who really care about your point of view- there are a few of you who post over and over but not really that many who really care.

I'll reply to honest queries for help but not to your sermons... maybe you should publish all this stuff- then you could let go of all your negative energy and get on with having a happy and POSITIVE life.

I WILL continue to offer hope to those who need it because 8 of those with who allowed me to share what I found are now alive instead of dead.

At the end of the day, I'll have to answer for how I used what I was given so I can take offer the lives of those 8 people who were given at least 2 years longer life than their doctors told them to expect; in one case he's had 5 years and in another 4 years. That's- using my gifts to benefit others - by building them up, not tearing them down.

None of them will care about this forum and all the negative attacks you have spewed while trying to convince .... whom? Yourself or the readers?... that we're all a pack of raving wolves trying to grab the bucks-- oops sheep- leading other sheep over the cliff would be a better metaphor right?

So, no I don't agree with you- but just because I do not agree, does not mean, I cannot think.

It means I judge your posts by your words and your attitudes and I find them sadly lacking in humanity.

Your goals are muddied by your self aggrandizement and you totally miss the point of what the company and the associates are all about.

Everyone knows all the research isn't finished yet- it's really not all the time and energy that you put into pointing out something we already know.

I feel very sorry for you.

SO good bye, and God bless.

PS Anyone else who wants more info can email me through this post.









 

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