Date:   5/22/2007 3:32:00 PM ( 17 y ago)
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Thanks, I enjoyed your post, even though it is a bit rare to find that some of my thoughts have given someone else reason to recall scripture.... (unsure shrug).

Going further out on a limb here, to me, there is significant difference between believing something and knowing something. Just going by literal definition, the former - accepting somethign as true, requires a significant decision; accepting. FWIW, there is also a separate, large, inter-twined industry catering to this as well, very much related to those other industries mentioned previously, that endeavor to keep people preoccupied with, distracted by, divided from other people as a result of, and mostly filled up with all the kinds of thought things, notions and such that they should accept as true without question.

To me, knowing is, and it is generally (but not always) distinctly different from believing; there are times when I sense I am somewhere between one or the other on a given situation. For instance, I do not need somebody to instruct me that there is/was a creator; I can see their handiwork beginning with a daily sunrise and taking in all the natural things there are to sense, see and hear from one sunrise to the next. I do not require somebody threatening me with eternal damnation in order to know this - some of the most obvious work of the Creator. The only decision required for knowing anything are the kinds of decisions required for getting one's person into a postion from where it can then observe things of significance first hand.....simple, just not always easy, it may require some time, effort, creativity, skill, thought, labor, work and the like, but still, pretty simple to do, just not necessarily easy.

In this respect, as part of the experience in coming to realize, confront and deal with the enormity of all I do not know has been part of the collective experience of growing into a new path that itself has involved the discarding a whole bunch of previusly held beliefs for what they now appear to me as - flawed decisions of acceptance on my part. It is fair to say that by comparison, there no longer is that much or many things that I truly accept as true - beleive. There is a definte small handfull of such figurativey speaking, just not near as much compared to the ways of the old/indoctrinatd path. Neither do I see myself as one who worships (literally, and or ritually, as may be the case) much of anything. There is no grand building I visit once or more weekly to compare my caliber of attire with others, and whereupon I follow established ancient rituals, by rote, willingly taking in instructions .....dogma, on how to unravel the deepest mysteries of the world, or else be damned in hell for not accepting such!. I am dependent on all kinds of things, and even on the relatively new path, do pursue at least a few things that I see OR allow myself to be dependent on, but do not consider myself as worshiping these things.

What I'm getting at in all of this is, by my own words, I've described myself as being not all that far from some of those words you used in mentioning those frogs.....minions of Lucifer .... yikes ! ... but there is still that relative small hanfull of things I know, and the small handfull of things I accept/believe as true. My jury is still out on the wisdom of having things to worship, and this is to a large extent a matter of wanting to avoid the lion's share of all those ancient and, to me, largely dubious/questionable rituals that, like the elephant in the living room, a lot of people seem to have failed noticing they have unwittingly wedded themselves to.
 

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