Date:   1/9/2007 4:09:55 PM ( 17 y ago)
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I in no way want to argue. I am just debating peacefully. God knows best.

You state: "He did not want to be separated from his father. Remember God is love, He would be separated from Love and the spirit would fail him. That is why he ask GOd why have you forsaken me."

This is what is confusing to many: If Jesus (PBUH) did not want to be seperated from his father? Who is his father, if Jesus (PBUH) is God? If he is asking God why have you forsaken me? That clearly means that Jesus (PBUH) was asking God, and that Jesus (PBUH) is NOT GOD. How could Jesus (PBUH) be asking "himself", why have you forsaken me? See, it contradicts itself in the Text.

You state: "He took on all the sins of humanity he was void of God for that moment he was just a man on a cross without the spirit father God with him"

If you read this text carefully from "The Apocalypse of Peter" from, source:

http://wesley.nnu.edu/biblical_studies/noncanon/apoc/fgapcpt.htm


"The Savior said to me, "He whom you saw on the tree, glad and laughing, this is the living Jesus. But this one into whose hands and feet they drive the nails is his fleshly part, which is the substitute being put to shame, the one who came into being in his likeness. But look at him and me."

But I, when I had looked, said "Lord, no one is looking at you. Let us flee this place."

But he said to me, "I have told you, "Leave the blind alone!". And you, see how they do not know what they are saying. For the son of their glory instead of my servant, they have put to shame."

And I saw someone about to approach us resembling him, even him who was laughing on the tree. And he was filled with a Holy Spirit, and he is the Savior. And there was a great, ineffable light around them,and the multitude of ineffable and invisible angels blessing them. And when I looked at him, the one who gives praise was revealed.

And he said to me, "Be strong, for you are the one to whom these mysteries have been given, to know them through revelation, that he whom they crucified is the first-born, and the home of demons, and the stony vessel, in which they dwell, of Elohim, of the cross, which is under the Law. But he who stands near him is the living Savior, the first in him, whom they seized and released, who stands joyfully looking those who did him violence,while they are divided among themselves. Therefore he laughs at their lack of perception, knowing that they are born blind. So then the one susceptible to suffering shall come, since the body is the substitute.But what they released was my incorporeal body. But I am the intellectual Spirit filled with radiant light.He whom you saw coming to me is our intellectual Palermo , which unites the perfect light with my Holy Spirit."

Read on :

"But many others, who oppose the truth and are the messengers of error, will set up their error and their law against these pure thoughts of mine, as looking out from one perspective, thinking that good and evil are from one source. They do business in my word. And they will propagate harsh fate. The race of immortal souls will go in it in vain, until my Parousia. For they shall come out of them, and my forgiveness of their transgressions into which they fell through the adversaries, whose ransom I got from the slavery in which they were, to give them freedom that they may create an imitation remnant in the name of a dead man, who is Hermas, of the first-born of unrighteousness, in order that the light which exists may not believed by the little ones. But those of this sort are the worker who will be cast into the outer darkness, away from the sons of light. For neither will they enter, nor do they permit those who are going up to their approval for their release."

If you read this properly, The quotes of Peter's Apocalypse that confirm Islam's claims. JESUS NEVER GOT CRUCIFIED!




 

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