Fishy, yes. Relevant, no. by #166035 ..... Liver Flush Debate Forum
Date: 8/1/2002 10:39:26 PM ( 22 y ago)
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I'm not convinced that the "stone" explaination is accurate either. That relatively large pea like stones were able to pass unscathed through a tiny little tube from the liver and gallbladder is a little wierd. That would be one stretchy set of tubing (and one that might be able to accomodate the traditional doctor approved stones - which it doesn't seem to be able to according to those guys).
However, I don't think it was olive oil, either. Whatever that stuff was, it wasn't no olive oil. Felt just like wax. And that bright green color? If I saw someone about to drink olive oil that color, I would tackle him to the ground. If that green were a crayola color, I'd name it "Radioactive."
Based on an admittedly inadequate knowledge of everything, my theory is that it is congealed bile, which is largely just cholesterol and most definitely green before it begins mixing with anything. Perhaps the magic cocktail of digestive chemicals and lemon juice produce very small congealed bile bubbles that squish together while moving along to form the fairly large balls that some people are seeing. The highly active bowels from the epsom help these things pass quickly through the system without getting formed into a more recognizable material that we are used to seeing on a daily basis in the loo.
It also troubles me some that all these "stones" would actually be sitting in the gallbladder OR the liver. At the rate some people are capable of spitting them out, if one were to even go a few years without a cleanse, the liver seems like it should explode from so many stones. Even in today's toxic times, it is rather strange that one of the body's most miraculous organs would be so entirely incapable of self maintenance. I've got 100,000 years of ancestors that claim the body manages to take care of itself quite nicely given the opportunity.
I do think that something positive could be accomplished, however. Perhaps some genuine, potentially clogging material is getting pushed out in the process. Perhaps exercising the liver regularly in such a manner is all it takes to get things moving as they should. Laying on my side with a belly full of extra virgin, I felt a liver workout like I'd never known. I know that there is much in QiKong about massaging the internal organs through breath and movement. I can personally attest to its efficacy for improving overall health.
But my off the cuff musings really are nothing but academic. This makes for fun cocktail conversation, but when I'm sick, I could care less. According to testimonials, people do feel better after the process. That is a wonderful thing. It doesn't matter how many people you get together to pooh pooh the explainations people want to use, no one can ever disprove one's feeling better. So even people who are strongly pro-stone, should welcome a healthy debate on the Origin of Stones, because it really is irrelevant to what is most important.
Personally, I would love to see someone discover that it wasn't stones, but instead some other process which I could perform on a regular basis through a little exercise or massage. That would be much better than having to drink a pint of epsom and spending the following day with a yucky case of the runs.
sal
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