Re: Inorganic vs. Organic Minerals by trapper/kcmo ..... Supplements Debate Forum
Date: 10/9/2006 9:48:48 AM ( 18 y ago)
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the whole arguement invites the very thing that gets us all in trouble at one point or another or we wouldnt be here, and that is thinking about human health as chemistry. if you buy this then you buy all the drugs peddled by doctors. its the basis of their thinking, too, so whats wrong with that? really, nothing, so long as the moment is more important to you than understanding, longevity, and anything approaching perfect health.
i searched the web high and low and believed everything, tried everything, and found for myself that most just wanted your money and that everything seemed to be a quick fix or a life long supplement - shades of allopathy. i was getting better, but the supplements werent doing it for me. the ones that did do something quickly waned in their efficacy. it was the changes in my diet and time that was doing it. when i found curezone i found MH and there is where i heard the answer to the puzzle.
instead of groping in the darkness trying to get back to the place i once was as a child, he directed my attention back to what i already knew in a spiritual manner and pointed out that the bible was (also) a health book. hmmmm.
so i looked at it from my own perspective and i wrote here about what i saw. little has changed in that basic strategy for me except for the continued fleshing out of the facts and figuring out strategies for personal improvement. so what i have to say now almost exactly parallels the message of MH and his school of applied self-prevention. one cure cures all and the cure is to obey nature.
we were created as breatharians - meaning that all we needed to live was in the air. the things that we are made up of are gasses. the gasses this body is comprised of are similar in nature to the spirit that inhabits the body. and all of this is made of light, so we are invisible beings of light inhabiting a body made of light, or as MH says it, beings of fire inhabiting a body of water.
once this concept can be grasped, it is easy to see that everything else is a defilement. every contaminant in the air, anything absorbed into our skin, and anything entering our body that is not pure water, sunlight and air is going to do harm unless it is removed. therefor the creator gave our bodies the ability to discern these things and discriminate against them and eliminate them. to quote MH again, there is not one thing that goes into us that becomes a human cell.
if you start from that point, you begin to see just how vile and disgusting our lifestyles and environment have become, and how unnecessary all of it is. and how harmful. this is why thinking that a person can mix any kind of concoction and ingest it and improve their condition is absurd beyond belief. we can all see and have experienced life where none of this was necessary for us to feel wonderful, with boundless energy and infinite curiosity and wonderment. today, it is called being a child and we are told to forget about that at an earlier and earlier age. none of the things we get convinced are necessary for good health were necessary for us then. all we needed was fresh air and sunshine and we naturally felt that way.
in the beginning there was also no work, no effort was needed to live. the environment presented no challenges, just like a womb. and instead of what we know as that violent and bloody entrance into the world of today, man was placed in a situation made especially for him which was perfectly suited to his perpetual needs. he was given a garden to tend and was told that the the trees were there to provide him with suitable sustenence for his chosen tasks. the fruit from trees. these are guaranteed to provide the added moisture and energy and minerals that his body would need. these would not defile his body. he did not ask for these. they were provided for him.
this is the point where the spiritual and the physical parallel each other so much they are one in the same. for the first breach of this paradise, the first defilement of a human body AND spirit, was the eating of something that should not have been eaten. the story has changed little since then except to become worse and worse with time, both in physical and spiritual matters.
if you read the bible carefully, as soon as wrong eating was introduced, the lord in his mercy provided herbs in order to help with correcting the body. but it could never be made whole again. just as the life that adam had inside him died that day, so the body also died in that same day:
2 Peter 3:8
But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
adam died at the age of 930 years, just shy of living his first day. imagine how long he would have lived had he not eaten the forbidden fruit? his children came to him after the age of 100, yet by the time god visited abraham and said that sarah would bear him a child at 100 years of age, sarah laughed. in fact, it didnt take very many generations until 70, maybe 80 if you were lucky, was all that you could expect. and today, we cannot find anyone much past the post flood limit of 120. in fact, i personally doubt any dates past that.
so what changed to make all of this come to be? the errors in the genes that were passed from the the parents and the diet. this is why diet is of such importance in the bible, because what we ingest can easily effect the spirit. we can see this with things like alcohol and opium because they are easy. but it doesnt take much logic to figure that anything that deviates from what god originally intended is going to have a price, and that price, my friends, is death.
as you can see, this makes practically all that we put in ourselves poisonous. man continually has a choice set before him to be a spiritual being in an animal body, or to be like the other animals and not regard his own spirit except as it suits him. he insisted on eating meat, so god, honoring the free will he had given all men, instructed him as to what would do the least harm and which would do the most, with spiritual parallels in those instructions of course.
so man has chosen this lifestyle and continues to do so today with a no holds barred type of attitude, part of that licentiousness spoken of by the apostle paul, but then no one wants to hear that. suffice it to say that in a world where anything goes, we have the evidence staring us in the face in that we have more illness and more horrific illnesses than at any time in history and have nothing but more of the same to look forward to. the last thing this is, is a coincidence.
you want organic minerals? we get them from plants. the very best quality of the most usable form is from trees. next is from perrenial plants and bushes and vines, and lastly from annuals which must grow from seed each year. want to know more about health and how we came to this abominable condition? well, the book is the best seller of all time for a reason. too bad most of those copies out there never get cracked open.
the bottom line is this: there is no way we need to put more crap in our bodies. what we need to do is to fast and let all of that stuff we have packed into ourselves escape by whatever means we can. and baby, there's a lot of it. many are like me with over 40 years of accumulations. as the body adjusts and the morbid matters come out, little crisis' rear their heads, sometimes from old toxins, sometimes from imbalances created by the losses. but all must come out or be stored and continue to damage until our appointed time. we do what we must do to get through these times, but to adopt a policy of ongoing poisoning of the body? not me, i know better now.
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