--answer--Plant minerals--vs--Rock Minerals and solutions !-- by moreless ..... Supplements Debate Forum
Date: 10/7/2006 10:45:40 PM ( 18 y ago)
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Hi Unyquity,
First I want to make it Clear that I agree 100% with you in that one is Best to get their Health needs from Plant sources, "IF" possible !
Now enters the problem as even "YOU" have posted and seem to Lack the solution ?
This is one of your comments: The most effective way to get calcium and other nutrients for our bones is from a balanced, whole food diet. Since your diet is probably less-than-perfect, ------you will most-likely need a mineral supplement------- to get all the nutrients you need to maintain healthy bones. For maximum benefit, find one that has minerals and vitamins like those in food.
Now for your recomendation as to a Minerals supplenment: Fortunately there are calcium supplements that are whole food. They are produced by feeding minerals to friendly micro-organisms (baker's yeast and yogurt culture) that turn them into food.
This is "NOT" Plant Based Minerals which you want to call food !
Do you know what Yeast produce and what the yogurt Bacteria produce to cause this action to take place which you are Claiming to be, to supposedly make this Rock mineral now like plant mineral or turn it into "food" as you said above ?
This is another of your comments: Now what happens to this toxic calcium? Our body plops it down into knobbly arthritic joints, bone spurs, brittle arteries, kidney stones and cataracts.
Please explain for all these people who do not understand this subject as much as you seem to want them to believe you do ! Just how this process comes about of this supposed Toxic Calcium to become Deposited as you have most generously Claimed it does ? Would you mind telling these people "WHY" the Calcium has come to the body's Rescue in these areas in the first place ? Could it have anything to do with the body being so Acidic, that this Calcium was needed to Neutralize these Acids so that these areas of the body did not Totally Deteriorate ? Did you realize that in Coal Fired power plants which burn High Sulfer coal, that for the emissions control to take the Sulfer (ACIDIC)out of the smoke stack , that they use scrubbers which use Limestone, which has Calcium(ALKALINE) in it , which is used to Neutralize these Excess Acids, which then becomes Deposits of Gypsum which are removed from the smoke stacks and put into big piles on the ground ?
How much different may this be than when your body becomes too Acidic ?
Could it be possible that when the body becomes too Acidic in certain areas of the body, that it then Draws Calcium from other areas of your Bones and Tissue in order to try to have enough Calcium to Neutralize these Excess Acids in these areas of Excess Acids ?
Could it also be that, "IF" the body had enough Calcium for the entire body , so that it did not have these areas of Excess Acids, that just maybe the body would not have had this problem of Robbing Calcium from other areas of the body, in order to try to save the areas which have now become too Acidic ?
Now to another comment of yours: --It has been tested & proven many times over that the rock-based forms of Calcium have an absorption rate of approximately 12% or less (depending upon age of the person ingesting them). The body MUST remove the unabsorbed portion (88%) from the bloodstream.
This may be one of the "BIGGEST" "LIES" which is being claimed by people today ?
Please explain to me and everyone else, just how this "unabsorbed calcium" got into the Blood stream in the first place "IF" it was "unabsorbed Calcium" ????????????????????????????????????????????
Please show me or "ANYONE" else just where the elevators and Dump trucks and Trains and Loaders and augers are in the body to move this kind of product around in the body as you suggest !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Could it be that this may not be possible as you have suggested, but instead the body is an Electro-magnetic machine which operates off of Electro-magnetic Energy which is created in the Digestion process ,and so the body has "NO" need of absorbed or unabsorbed as you choose to want to call it, for the body does "NOT" have elevators and Dump trucks and trains and Loaders and augers and such equipment in the body ?
Maybe because the body may just operate from this Electro-magnetic Energy, and because of this , your whole idea about the Calcium Deposits in the body is loaded with "Holes" ?????????
One Big problem in your presentation, may be in that most of what you posted was something you either read or heard from someone else, not understanding the subject as you should yourself ?
Now to the subject of Calcium Hydroxide, which you seem intent on trying to prove it is Toxic to use in any way shape or form !
There is such a thing know as Moderation and Common Sense !
Do you have any ?
Since this whole subject may be because I have suggested it's use for people to use to help solve their problems of not enough Calcium, because of the foods which are so Poor Quality, as even you made comment to, then may I provide some Facts for people to consider who are interested in thinking outside their "LITTLE" "BOX" they may be stuck in !
My suggestion of the Alkalizing Drink which many people have gotten marvelous results with , which includes the Lime water, which is Calcium Hydroxide, when it is mixed with the Blackstrap Molasses, then the Complete Complexed Carbohydrates of the BSM react with this Calcium as the Lemon juice or ACV is added and a Plant Based Calcium may be formed from this reaction and then by adding the Kelp, which is a Plant source of Alkaline Minerals ,and taking a small pinch of Epsom Salt with each meal to help your Liver and Kidneys function properly, this Tops it all off !
The "ONLY" Better you may get than this may be from Top Quality High Brix foods, of which seem to be in "VERY SHORT" supply for some reason !
It would be nice "IF" you and others would supply Better solutions for "ALL" the problems Facing people today, since as you have agreed , that the foods may not be so good ?
"WHY" do so many people have to Complain and Whine when someone comes up with Solutions which Solve the Problems which Help many people at very Little expense ?
Most of the times one may look at people doing these things and these people have been unable to Solve their own problems and are so Acidic, that they are unable to think Clearly and may have a Poor attitude about Life in general, so they just Complain every day as a Normal habit of Sickness !
Do you fit this group of people ?
Or do you have enough Common Sense to see thru this kind of Nonsense which some are Complaining and Whining about all the time ?
Smile Tis your choice.
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