Date:   9/1/2006 7:46:05 AM ( 18 y ago)
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Buttermilk is not 'fermented' no matter how its made, unlike yoghurt or Kefir.

Whey is just the liquid from removing the solids - there should be minimal casein, but its not 'fermented' either.

'Cream Cheese' can be made in various ways, but still, as it is a 'fresh' cheese has minimal fermentation. Also 'Cream Cheese' is more a fluke of modern commercialization: you may want to try Quark, or Yoghurt Cheese as these have more of a proper fermentation - but realize any cheese concentrates the Casein...

On the other hand, i am not really sure if its really the casein per se.
Sounds like you should try avoiding Dairy altogether. That way when you do occasionally consume it you'll have less problems.
 

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